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Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Eieiom · 09/05/2024 11:12

Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

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LondonLass61 · 09/05/2024 17:35

WhataPlank · 09/05/2024 11:13

The solution is for them all to step down. We've outgrown having a royal family

Absolutely this.

Sunnyandsilly · 09/05/2024 17:36

If I’m honest I also feel pity for Harry and Megan,they really have fucked it badly, and I also think if they’d been allowed to do half in half out,and monetise their positions, they’d have been successful , spare would never have been as scathing as it was, and neither would Oprah or Netflix, as they would have wanted the world to think positively on the royals so they could make money.

we all knew they would never be permitted to blatantly use the monarchy for their own financial gain and fame, I don’t anyone who read that statement about half in half out and collaborating with the queen didn’t immediately think yeah that’s never going to happen.

i get why Megan might have thought they could do it, and why coming from suits the thought of living in Montecito and hanging with the clooneys and other big names was everything to her, but harry? Harry should have known it would never be allowed, and presenting the queen with a fait accompli was never ever going to change that outcome.

that was their first mistake. The second was thinking they had the talent to make it alone. The third was the book and interviews. And it was down hill,from there. So so many mistakes.

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 17:36

How is Charles responsible for Diana's death? It's not his fault she got Into a car driven by a drunk and didn't put her seat belt on.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/05/2024 17:37

Who can say whether what we are being "fed" is true anyway? KC could have met H on the quiet and in secret

This had occurred to me, except what then was the point of Harry's spokesman's remark about him understanding why they couldn't meet?

Doubtless it'll all get regurgitated in some future "victim interview", but time will tell on that one

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 17:37

potato57 · 09/05/2024 16:46

Manipulated by Camilla, she's a nasty piece of work and turned him into not a particularly nice person either.

Choosing Paris of all places as the first international trip as king & queen was terrible optics, no wonder it got canned.

Don't think he's got long left though tbh.

Edited

Utter tosh! You know nothing about the woman, and they both appear to be fairly pleasant and affable when they're meeting people.

Have you been speaking to his medical professionals? That's a terrible thing to say!

SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 17:37

@BashfulClam the palace said the queens body was travelling by train.

BashfulClam · 09/05/2024 17:39

SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 17:37

@BashfulClam the palace said the queens body was travelling by train.

William told Harry that and he leaked it to the press. it was never the plan.

RandomButtons · 09/05/2024 17:40

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 09/05/2024 11:14

Nah, I'm not convinced by that. I had a lot of sympathy for Harry until the Oprah interview and the book. But you can't go slagging off your family for the money and expect anything other than being cut out.

This.

I had a lot of sympathy for him prior to all that. Harry has bit the hand that fed him.

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 17:40

Hairychops77892 · 09/05/2024 17:07

To be fair I think Harry feels he was sold out as a teenager and young man in the process of Camilla’s rehabilitation.

Well I think we're seeing clearly now that that isn't the case, seeing how he behaves when he's not under the watchful eye of the RF. I don't believe Camilla threw him under a bus at all - just another of his lies.

GreenTreeFlower · 09/05/2024 17:40

If they wanted to meet up they would. It's not like me having to grab the underground and slep across London.

It's neither here nor there to me.

SammyScrounge · 09/05/2024 17:41

mitogoshi · 09/05/2024 17:11

You write a tell all memoir for money about your family, the "facts" of which aren't even proven in some cases (as in there's some things which are proven wrong in it) then expect your family to accept you back?

I honestly think H is a bit naive at best, there's worse explanations. I couldn't care less about where he lives or who he married but it seems he's made a whole load of bad choices

He's worse than naive - he thinks he's clever. The interview he gave to his friend in which when reminded of calling Royals racist, he snapped back that she (Meghan) didn't call them that, the Press did., proves that. He was so pleased that he had outwitted everybody but was too stupid to recognise the shock on his friend's face which was replicates all over the country. He's a tiresome person who brings trouble with him. The King and the Princess of Wales don't need trouble when they are recuperating.

Hairychops77892 · 09/05/2024 17:42

MuscariFan · 09/05/2024 17:02

Famous from a bit part American show that barely anyone had heard of? I watch lots of American shows, but had barely heard of Suits and never heard of Meghan. I don't think she was broad-spectrum famous in the slightest.

I am in the camp of those who think she was all in for being royalty until she realised there was a pecking order and she would be a long way from the top of it. They thought they had leverage for the half-in/half-out due to their (in their own heads) star quality, and got a nasty shock.

To be fair, know one can possibly know what they “thought” or what was in their heads. And I think it was entirely reasonable of them to have an expectation of being allowed to be half in and half out, what with Meghan’s mother living in another country, and with Beatrice and Eugenie arguably doing exactly that at the time.

Not to mention minor RF members like Zara Tindall and Peter Philiipps carrying out a few charity appointments while receiving professional sponsorships.

And let’s not forget the many Land Rovers and Range Rovers owned by the senior members of the RF. Does everyone seriously think that they don’t receive some sort of discount?

The mistake that the men in grey suits made was that they couldn’t decide whether Harry was a senior Royal
or a minor Royal, and they seemed to have come to the conclusion that he was too senior to have a separate income stream from professional activities, but not major enough to give him a proper title, role, funding or accommodation commensurate with that, so he felt shafted in both directions!

CountingCrones · 09/05/2024 17:45

You think a mediocre man of limited intellect who is demonstrably emotionally stunted, reared with an expectation of ruling a country (and a Commonwealth) is selfish?

I think the expression No Shit, Sherlock is the one I’m looking for.

SammyScrounge · 09/05/2024 17:45

BashfulClam · 09/05/2024 17:31

Meghan was found taking pictures or Princess Charlotte’s bedroom secretly. Harry also leaked to the press. William tested if he was he was leaking information to the press by telling only Harry that the QueensA body would travel to London by train. It was healed proving Harry cannot be trusted.

Harry and Meghan are.just disgustingly.That's the lonng and the short of it.

blacksax · 09/05/2024 17:46

H has spent some time acting like a spoilt princess.

Ironic really.

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 17:46

TheWernethWife · 09/05/2024 17:34

Whatever people think about Prince Harry, he didn't plot with Nazi's and put Great Britain at risk passing on official secrets like the late Queen's uncle the Duke of Windsor.
He was allowed to keep his title and lived in luxury in Paris with a pension. It seems that people won't be happy until Harry's head is on a spike in the tower

Bullshit - people just want him to stop taking potshots at his family, stop pretending that he's still a working member of the royal family, and generally quit behaving like the grade A wanker he has shown himself to be in recent years.

quizzys · 09/05/2024 17:46

Of course they met up. KC and H met in the Nag's Head in Peckham disguised as characters from Only Fools and Horses. Apt since only fools and horses work, not the RF anyway.

It's such a joke this RF stuff. But it's enjoyable to read about (apart from the serious illnesses of course). Other than that it is typical that Brits wax lyrical about all aspects of psychology, family dynamics and scandals, behaviours, belligerence, and so on just like all the soap operas of which I'm led to believe many Brits love and often gossip about as if it were real life. Yep just like the RF.

Anyway, the thing that annoys me a lot is the fact that KC is the head of the Church of England. Now if he relinquished even that spot I'd give him some kudos. Hypocrisy comes to mind, although H V111 was not shy about changing spouses and started it all off!

Newestname002 · 09/05/2024 17:49

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 09/05/2024 11:14

Nah, I'm not convinced by that. I had a lot of sympathy for Harry until the Oprah interview and the book. But you can't go slagging off your family for the money and expect anything other than being cut out.

Yes agree with this. Even the late Queen Elizabeth II somewhere in all that mess supposedly said "recollections may vary". 🌹

caringcarer · 09/05/2024 17:50

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 09/05/2024 11:14

Nah, I'm not convinced by that. I had a lot of sympathy for Harry until the Oprah interview and the book. But you can't go slagging off your family for the money and expect anything other than being cut out.

This. Harry caused the tension with his Dad and his brother by constantly slagging them off on TV and in his book. He slagged off Camilla and Kate too. I think Harry is a horrible person.

Newestname002 · 09/05/2024 17:52

@RogueFemale

He could have given up his 'royalty' and stood down from being in line for the throne. He chose royalty over love.

Oh wow - then we'd perhaps have had Andrew now as king. What a thought! 🌹

GreenTreeFlower · 09/05/2024 17:53

Anyway, the thing that annoys me a lot is the fact that KC is the head of the Church of England

Too true. Also the fact the the crown and monarchy still plays a role in government is ridiculous

"Along with the House of Commons and the House of Lords, the Crown is an integral part of the institution of Parliament. The King plays a constitutional role in opening and dissolving Parliament and approving Bills before they become law."

The fact the KC is exempt from the law and can influence the legislative process is disgusting. I think it's awful that we have an unelected head of state. Who the fuck does he think he is?

Americano75 · 09/05/2024 17:53

Mothership4two · 09/05/2024 17:24

@Kerrylass

In fairness, Both Charles and Diana played the media game better than anyone. Just because they didnt have deals doesnt mean they didnt promote their own version of events.

^^This. And it is still going on and is incredibly effective. Their staff and advisers are experts in this field and have been for a very long time. eg Camilla, who has gone from being publicly pretty much universally hated, so much so RF said she would never have the title of Queen, to today where Queen Camilla (so that was a lie then) carries out official engagements and they have a nice 'forbidden love' backstory.

I have friends, acquaintances and family who have worked for and with the RF and the KC&QC 'big romance' is a lot of hogwash apparently but the thinking is it would be more 'palatable' to the public than the truth.

Oh yes, the old 'Camilla will never be queen' line. I remember that one, that was a zinger.

RisingSunn · 09/05/2024 17:54

WhataPlank · 09/05/2024 11:13

The solution is for them all to step down. We've outgrown having a royal family

I agree.

quizzys · 09/05/2024 17:54

Harry is probably the only one with integrity who is not afraid to say it as it is. As often said on threads here, the DP/DH should have his wife's back and put her first before his birth family. He did.

The rest of them like their jewels and monetary assets far too much for that kind of honesty.

DrJonesIpresume · 09/05/2024 17:56

And let's not forget the many Land Rovers and Range Rovers owned by the senior members of the RF. Does everyone seriously think that they don't receive some sort of discount?

Most people, fairly sensibly, would see that as an extremely good advertising investment for the manufacturer. Which then rubs its collective hands as it sees the orders rolling in from the oligarchs, the international high & mighty, the oil barons, and everybody else with plenty of money who would also like one of them cars what the royal family drives, please.

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