Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

[Eieiom]

Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

These are all fair points.

I imagine he is.

We all are it is part of human nature.

I think now tbh he was a twat all along - a well protected twat!

Did he? Oh well there we are then.

Storm in a coffee teacup.

Christ! The King is suffering from cancer, undergoing treatment, still does all his daily "Boxes", is a workaholic and chomping at the bit to get back to doing his duties, glad-handing dignatories, meeting the public and has back to back pending appointments.

Harry comes over here on a prearranged visit and can't arrange to come a couple of days earlier to fit round the busy schedule of his father....??

Spoiled and entitled spring to mind....read the room boyo!

Its encumbent upon Harry to make all the suitable adjustments in dates/ diaries etc to facilitate a meet with the King.
After all WHAT does Harry actually DO?

@Eieiom no sympathy for harry!!! he has been led by the balls to the usa and just acted abominably!!! he was nearly 37 years old and still expecting his father to subsidise him and his awful wife!!!

Also conveniently, H& M are off to Nigeria to reconnect with "HER ROOTS"....a pseudo Royal Visit!
So a reconnection with the King prior to the Nigeria visit would have appeared conveniently like HRH was sanctioning it. DOH!

Totally this. Being Head of State is not nothing. Of course Charles has to put his job first.

True. And there was a huge amount of goodwill towards both him and Meghan around the time of their wedding.
I never would have thought this before it all kicked off, but in hindsight IMO she always intended to get him away, to enjoy the pluses and the money - and to capitalise on her duchess status - without the tedious royal duties.

Manipulated by Camilla, she's a nasty piece of work and turned him into not a particularly nice person either.

Choosing Paris of all places as the first international trip as king & queen was terrible optics, no wonder it got canned.

Don't think he's got long left though tbh.

She was already famous, she didn't need anything from them. Being involved with them has done her brand more harm than good. And of course you wouldn't want to live under all the shit she gets from the press here for no reason. Other than Camilla throwing everyone under the bus so she could get good press in return to wipe out the whole Diana thing.

None of us know what is happening or what has happened. Everything the public know about the RF is filtered through the many Royal offices and their publicity departments and sometimes repackaged and 'spun' again by the media. People who think they know them and their personalities and accurately know the ins and outs of their history are naive.

I feel sorry for them all. What a shit show.

Very well said @ThisIsMyRubbishUsername

I watched the Oprah interview and read Harry's book, and no where does he trash his family, he's spoken out about his love for his dad and William, and his hope to reconcile.
This has all gotten blown out of proportion because the media has now made up so much stuff no one knows who said or did what, as everyone here knows, families are complicated, but most parents wouldn't cut their children off for this reason,also remember Charles wrote his own book, where he spoke harshly about his own parents and upbringing, and they did not cut him off.
It has also been said in court that the leaks were coming from Kensington Palace, so it seems Harry is better off out of it , either way, he seems happy, hopefully he is.
I personally dont think the king has came across well here.

I’m pretty sure (well, I’m not, who knows really!) but I reckon Charles is keeping Harry well outside the firm as the second Hazza knows a thing about Kate’s health it’ll be all over US TV

What book did you read, as it clearly wasn’t spare 😂

I don't agree it was racism. Would it be racism if a ginger haired parent and a dark haired parent wondered how red/brown their child's hair would be? A parent of Italian heritage and a parent of Scandinavian heritage wondering how olive toned their child's skin would be? No? So why is it racism to wonder how light or dark the child of a mixed race parent and a white parent would be? And no, I'm not white.

I don’t know. I kind of agree but I don’t know if it is all along Charles or if it’s the media . There have always been differences in how the media have portrayed Meghan compared to how they have portrayed Kate . I don’t blame her for wanting to distance herself and Harry is just supporting his wife .

Harry watched how his mother was treated and people seem to assume that Meghan is the driving force but maybe , just maybe , he doesn’t want his wife suffering in the way his mother did and as a result does not want his son suffering in the way he did

I'll agree that Charles is thoroughly selfish and the institution toxic, but that still doesn't give Harry or anyone else a free pass for behaving terribly - after all it's perfectly possible for both to be in the wrong sometimes

Personally I'd much rather just get rid of the whole show, but I respect that others feel differently

She was far more famous after her engagement to Harry. And infinitely more lucratively ‘marketable’.

At least Diana and Charles didn’t sell their story for $$$$$ or have a film crew following them around or openly exploit their status and family for financial gain.

he's spoken out about his love for his dad and William, and his hope to reconcile

He was hardly going to say otherwise, especially not in front of millions of Oprah viewers. It wouldn't be good for his image.

For example, no woman who has just given birth should ever have to get dolled up and parade her new born in front of TV cameras.
I agree, that makes me so angry!

However this popped up on my instagram the other day and made me laugh

It's not how I see it at all.

To me Charles was as much a victim of 'the firm' as Diana was. Charles was in love with someone who he told was unsuitable as a wife. He was was effectively pushed into an arranged marriage which ultimately broke down on both sides because he was in love with someone else. Diana had pursued Charles because she wanted to marry a prince even though she knew he loved Camilla. Diana then proceeded to destroy Charles's reputation by having multiple relationships before they were divorced and giving interviews about her marriage on national television and had a book published.

Charles was brought up with a very hands off kind of parenting himself and he has acknowledged this and how it made him unhappy. Therefore I can see evidence that he has tried to be more present for his own sons. William seems to have a good relationship with him. I think most people are forgiving of their children, but Harry has done and said some pretty unforgivable things about his family. I guess Charles is pretty cross with him right now.