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Men should do the chasing

165 replies

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 16:47

Am I the only one who thinks the word chase is vile.
I don't want a man to 'chase' me, I want something mutual and reciprocal. It's on here all the time, people proudly proclaiming their man chased them for weeks, initiated and planned every date, turned up with flowers and so on.

The same people would rather die than double text or initiate anything first with a man. I've had friends absolutely horrified that I had asked men out because apparently that's their job.

I'm not advocating anybody chases anybody, but I think trying hard with someone who clearly isn't interested is a waste of time.

People who have this idea about traditional gender roles, I'd like to know if that continues throughout the relationship too? Are the women expected to do most of the domestic chores because that's the woman's job?

I really don't believe that every man loves the chase. Certainly some do, but that's them.

Also, once he's 'won' his prize, do you then show more interest and affection once he knows he's got you? Will he not get bored once the chase is over?

Honestly I'm single so what do I know, but I'd rather do so than partake in this chase bullshit.

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TammyJones · 08/05/2024 21:45

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 08/05/2024 17:37

The problem is, you see all the time on here women whose bars are too low, and are being treated like shit. Setting standards a little bit higher and having the expectation that men will make some level of effort can only be a good thing for womankind!

Agree.
It's not about being cold, blasé or standoffish.
It's about self respect and a positive attitude.
So be warm, keen and happy, but let him ask you for a second date.
Don't drop previous plans if he ask you out

And remember the rules:
Never accept a date for Saturday after Wednesday.

IbisDancer · 08/05/2024 21:46

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:40

I just don't think letting a man chase you guarantees he'll want a long term relationship..

Well jumping in the sack within hours of meeting is less likely to result in a long term relationship. Nothing is a guarantee in life, how strange you would think that there were or that I was suggesting such a unicorn.

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:47

IbisDancer · 08/05/2024 21:46

Well jumping in the sack within hours of meeting is less likely to result in a long term relationship. Nothing is a guarantee in life, how strange you would think that there were or that I was suggesting such a unicorn.

Not wanting to be chased doesn't mean you'll sleep with a man immediately, it's not one or the other.
Anyway I see it constantly on here 'oh we slept together within 3 minutes of meeting and we've now been married for 78 years!"

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Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:48

TammyJones · 08/05/2024 21:45

Agree.
It's not about being cold, blasé or standoffish.
It's about self respect and a positive attitude.
So be warm, keen and happy, but let him ask you for a second date.
Don't drop previous plans if he ask you out

And remember the rules:
Never accept a date for Saturday after Wednesday.

Absolutely agree with the last two points, but what if he likes you and is genuinely happy that you asked him for a second date?
Everyone on here seems to be assuming that if a woman asks a man out, he'll only say yes if he's no other options.

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IbisDancer · 08/05/2024 21:49

Bromelain · 08/05/2024 21:40

Sexual attraction is a funny thing. Women who want equality in every other area still feel sexually attracted to dominant men. When you’re talking about men “pursuing” what you’re describing is dominant and assertive behaviour. You only have to look at romance novels and movies etc to know that most women like it.

I don’t see it as dominant behaviour to chase me? I see myself as the dominant one. He can beg, crawl, do elaborate things to try and get my attention and I am the dominant one choosing him or choosing another man.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 08/05/2024 21:51

nfkl · 08/05/2024 20:20

@Verucasalt123
If your question was for me, you need to find the right tone.

Example, first date with a guy, all went well, at the end, you give him a chaste kiss on the lips but he pushes for more, and you have to wriggle away. 3 possible ways to follow up:

1/ you slap him and leave
2/ you lecture him for a long time about body autonomy
3/ you look back at him calmly with a gently scolding smile and you just say “not now”, you can even tap lightly a finger on his chest (and you leave)

1, he won’t call back, 2, maybe he ll call back, but he s probably slightly off 3, that’s how you do it, playful, the less the better, but firm and clear

What the actual fuck?

Upinthenightagain · 08/05/2024 21:51

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:42

I just don't see why 50/50 is such an issue. One time, the man suggests a date, the next time, the woman and so on. Really don't see why that should be so off putting.

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
So carry on as you are and see how you get on but if it’s not working it’s worth having a rethink and seeing what results other methods might get you.

IbisDancer · 08/05/2024 21:51

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:47

Not wanting to be chased doesn't mean you'll sleep with a man immediately, it's not one or the other.
Anyway I see it constantly on here 'oh we slept together within 3 minutes of meeting and we've now been married for 78 years!"

Ok then. I took the no chase thing to also mean no playing hard to get, because if the flirting and dating goes on for awhile, that is the chase. A chase is mutual in that you give signs of encouragement….

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:52

Upinthenightagain · 08/05/2024 21:51

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
So carry on as you are and see how you get on but if it’s not working it’s worth having a rethink and seeing what results other methods might get you.

To be fair I can't really tell if it's worked or not worked, with my ex we already knew each other and just messaged online and eventually he came to stay, and we were together 4 years.

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Neodymium · 08/05/2024 21:52

I find it vile when friends post their ‘love story ‘ on fb on an anniversary, and it’s things like ‘he asked me out 5 times. I kept saying no but he persisted and finally agreed to go out with him’. Umm that’s gross respect someone’s boundaries if they say no it’s no. not a love story. I have another friend who is married to her boyfriend she had at 14 when he was 19. She would sneak out to see him. Her dad still to this day dislikes him and she got mad at me when I said I see her dads point, the relationship at that stage was inappropriate and I would feel the exact same.

PermanentTemporary · 08/05/2024 21:53

'Never accept a date for Saturday night after Wednesday'

[Vomits copiously and makes frantic V-signs]

Fuck off with this ridiculous shit.

I have to ask myself what crap is going on in my head that I even clicked on this thread. [Hides it]

IbisDancer · 08/05/2024 21:54

A chase that isn’t mutual is criminal stalking…btw.

EucalyptusIndigo · 08/05/2024 21:54

I feel like you’ve been posting the same kinda thing over and over again for the past 2 months now. Possibly longer. But it always goes like this; met a guy, went for coffee, talked for hours and was certain it was mutual, suggested a second date and that’s where it ended and you’re fixated on this silly notion that you’ve somehow cursed the whole romance because you asked him out.

I may, of course, be wrong. And you’ll no doubt not say even if I’m not but, this game/chase shit that people go on about it exactly that; bullshit, A man that is legitimately interested in a woman will be happy for her to suggest meeting again. Joyous, even. In the scenario you describe he just wasn’t as keen on you as you’d convinced yourself he was. That’s just life.

If you are the same poster please consider speaking to a therapist of some sort. I say this with kindness, it’s really not healthy. And it won’t do you any favours in finding a bloke either. There is no magic formula; you’ll either find a good one and he’ll like you back for who you are, or you won’t. Any successes you’ll have (and I wish you many!) in this department won’t be because you ‘played it’ a certain way.

All the best.

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:56

EucalyptusIndigo · 08/05/2024 21:54

I feel like you’ve been posting the same kinda thing over and over again for the past 2 months now. Possibly longer. But it always goes like this; met a guy, went for coffee, talked for hours and was certain it was mutual, suggested a second date and that’s where it ended and you’re fixated on this silly notion that you’ve somehow cursed the whole romance because you asked him out.

I may, of course, be wrong. And you’ll no doubt not say even if I’m not but, this game/chase shit that people go on about it exactly that; bullshit, A man that is legitimately interested in a woman will be happy for her to suggest meeting again. Joyous, even. In the scenario you describe he just wasn’t as keen on you as you’d convinced yourself he was. That’s just life.

If you are the same poster please consider speaking to a therapist of some sort. I say this with kindness, it’s really not healthy. And it won’t do you any favours in finding a bloke either. There is no magic formula; you’ll either find a good one and he’ll like you back for who you are, or you won’t. Any successes you’ll have (and I wish you many!) in this department won’t be because you ‘played it’ a certain way.

All the best.

I haven't posted before no? I've had a few rubbish coffee things that didn't go anywhere though sadly.

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JamSandle · 08/05/2024 21:59

That's how I navigated relationships in my teens and early 20s. Now I'm super direct and let the chips fall where they may.

EucalyptusIndigo · 08/05/2024 22:04

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 21:56

I haven't posted before no? I've had a few rubbish coffee things that didn't go anywhere though sadly.

Ok. Fair enough.

Stop with the ‘sadly’ though. It’s not sad to have quickly realised that a man wasn’t interested in you back. Onwards and upwards!

You say you don’t want to be the prey but you’re not half playing the victim. Just accept they don’t like you in the same
way and move on to the next. It’s not that deep, and these men aren’t trying to lay some elaborate groundwork. They weren’t keen. End of.

IbisDancer · 08/05/2024 22:07

I've had a few rubbish coffee things that didn't go anywhere though sadly.

It can be disheartening, so many rubbish men out there. Pay it no mind, you will find a diamond one day.

potato57 · 08/05/2024 22:11

Don't go out for coffee, coffee implies friendships.

Beezknees · 08/05/2024 22:20

nfkl · 08/05/2024 20:20

@Verucasalt123
If your question was for me, you need to find the right tone.

Example, first date with a guy, all went well, at the end, you give him a chaste kiss on the lips but he pushes for more, and you have to wriggle away. 3 possible ways to follow up:

1/ you slap him and leave
2/ you lecture him for a long time about body autonomy
3/ you look back at him calmly with a gently scolding smile and you just say “not now”, you can even tap lightly a finger on his chest (and you leave)

1, he won’t call back, 2, maybe he ll call back, but he s probably slightly off 3, that’s how you do it, playful, the less the better, but firm and clear

Why would you WANT a man to call you if he doesn't respect your boundaries and you had to wriggle away from him??? That's sexual assault territory. What a bizarre post.

Beezknees · 08/05/2024 22:22

TammyJones · 08/05/2024 21:45

Agree.
It's not about being cold, blasé or standoffish.
It's about self respect and a positive attitude.
So be warm, keen and happy, but let him ask you for a second date.
Don't drop previous plans if he ask you out

And remember the rules:
Never accept a date for Saturday after Wednesday.

"The Rules" is such a load of tosh. If you're not busy, why would you not accept a date for Saturday night on a Wednesday? It's just pretending to be something you're not.

Beezknees · 08/05/2024 22:23

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 08/05/2024 21:51

What the actual fuck?

My reaction exactly. Are we in the 1950s?

Samedaysameshit · 08/05/2024 22:24

Verucasalt123 · 08/05/2024 19:06

Im sorry but I'm still failing to understand. So men apparently love these women who ignore them, say no to dates, cancel plans, and want to be single because god forbid someone should be open to dating.
Ok, and then they finally 'win' their prize over. Then what? The challenge has gone then.

Don’t worry about all this men have to do the chasing rubbish.
I would take it as the woman is not interested and frankly I’m not playing silly buggers at my age double guessing if she’s playing hard to get.
Your basic intuition is right, if you like someone show them you like them!
I mean it’s really not that hard.
Then just go from there.
Remember the golden rule with men, keep it simple!
They are not mind readers and most are really crap at picking up subtle or even fairly obvious signs.
I think you have the right attitude and do t be confused by all these secret magical tactics to weed out the wrong un’s.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/05/2024 22:29

I think the idea that the man should chase is a very bad one. It’s just another way of saying the man gets to choose. Men get to choose a partner they like the look of and chase her down. The woman doesn’t get to choose - she has to wait to see who chases after her and go for one of them.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/05/2024 22:29

If given the option, I would much sooner be the chooser/ chaser.

Samedaysameshit · 08/05/2024 22:30

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 08/05/2024 19:10

Every single scenario you give is seriously fucked up.

I wouldn't want to date any of those men.

At what point are you "allowed" to drop the act and be yourself aka interested/enthusiastic? What's stopping them leaving then?

If a woman gives off I’m not interested vibes I will assume she is not interested.
Or are you saying when women say and act not interested I should ignore that and keep trying The more she tells me to go away blocks phone number, gets a restraining order the keener she must be.
Its like a stalkers charter.