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To be tired of these types of comments on social media?

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AngeloMysterioso · 08/05/2024 12:30

Having a scroll through instagram whilst bf-ing.

Now don’t get me wrong, I know what’s going on in the world and I do follow a few “serious” accounts. But I mostly follow the less serious things because it’s just bloody instagram.

I’m just getting tired of seeing so many comments on pictures posted by, say, Vogue Magazine or Rolling Stone, saying “meanwhile in Gaza” “can’t believe you’re posting this pointless crap when there’s a war happening” “Rafah is being bombed and y’all care about the Met Gala?” etc etc.

We know what’s happening in Gaza. We know it’s fucking awful. I hold my children close every day and feel thankful that we’re here and not there. But it’s ok not to be thinking about it ALL THE TIME, and nobody turns to fashion and showbiz accounts on social media for hard hitting geopolitical content!

AIBU to think these people could just… give it a rest?

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YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 00:53

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 00:50

Read a book

Which book?
I’m reading Little Women at the moment, will the answer be in there?

Hélène79 · 15/05/2024 00:53

You've had your head turned by the Satmar's and Neturei Karta haven't you?

Posters are becoming nastier by the day.

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 00:54

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I support the right of Israel (ie a Jewish stage) to exist, absolutely.
Dont you? Take away the politics - do Jewish people have the right to their own state?

I believe in a two state solution. That’s not pro ethnic cleansing.

Bicyclethief · 15/05/2024 00:54

Custardcream84 · 10/05/2024 07:40

It’s funny isn’t it. People who speak up on their platforms are criticised because they get told they are too ignorant to comment on the issue. People who just post to raise awareness on other posts get told stop doing that we don’t want to hear about it on this account why don’t you go out and do something that will actually make a difference. People who go out on the marches and protests get told you’re disrupting everyone and making people uncomfortable and no one can go shopping on a Saturday afternoon why are you affecting normal people who can do nothing rather than those who can. People who just boycott companies in BDS get told they shouldn’t and it’s ineffective. The people who actually try and effect change (eg the student encampments to get their universities to divest from arming Israel) get told they are violent for sitting in tents trying to make a point and should make their concerns known at the ballot box. And then people who do make their opinion known at the ballot box get told how dare they let issues in the Middle East affect their vote rather than their bin collections or LTN rules.

And all the while terrible things are happening and atrocities are occurring. Rafah the last safe place is being attacked and mass graves are being discovered in hospitals full of doctors and patients. Every single type of person mentioned above is better than all the sneering sniffy commenters on this thread. It’s the people who ask for change and demand change that make it. Not a single bit of progress from workers rights to women’s votes to the end of apartheid would have happened without outrage and protest and I honestly don’t give a rats arse that your mindless scrolling is being disturbed by the odd commenter posting Palestine flags because clearly you aren’t seeing the children crushed by rubble or ripped to shreds that some of us are seeing because the only way to show people what’s happening is social media.

No doubt I’ll now get called sanctimonious and virtue signalling because I want more outrage on a genocide that has been sanctioned by every Western nation.

Funny how selective all these people who go out and do all those things are.

Nothing about the hundreds of other injustices in the world. Just Palestine.

It's the hypocrisy of it all. The double standards.

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 00:55

Hélène79 · 15/05/2024 00:53

You've had your head turned by the Satmar's and Neturei Karta haven't you?

Posters are becoming nastier by the day.

I wonder if she saw my wave?

Hélène79 · 15/05/2024 00:56

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 00:55

I wonder if she saw my wave?

Ah yes, of course!

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 00:58

Bicyclethief · 15/05/2024 00:54

Funny how selective all these people who go out and do all those things are.

Nothing about the hundreds of other injustices in the world. Just Palestine.

It's the hypocrisy of it all. The double standards.

See my previous posts on how supporting Palestine also happens to be an opportunity to hate on an oppressed group.

I mean it may not be the reason it’s so popular, or it may be the reason - we don’t know, but it’s interesting.

A bit like how all these English League of Twats organisations, or whatever they’re called, only started caring about trafficked children when there was an opportunity to shout abuse at Asian men.

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 00:58

Hélène79 · 15/05/2024 00:56

Ah yes, of course!

I do give good wave 💁🏼‍♀️

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 01:01

Bicyclethief · 15/05/2024 00:54

Funny how selective all these people who go out and do all those things are.

Nothing about the hundreds of other injustices in the world. Just Palestine.

It's the hypocrisy of it all. The double standards.

How can one person take up hundreds of cases of activism across the globe? Maybe you'd like to try?

ILoveYouItsRuiningMyLife · 15/05/2024 01:03

Yeah I have a Facebook friend who floods my feed with awful, graphic pictures of injured or dead Palestinian children.

its sickening that this is happening to any child, regardless of their religion. Sickening. But sometimes I just need to…not see it or think about it, to be honest. I can’t fix it.

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 01:03

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 01:01

How can one person take up hundreds of cases of activism across the globe? Maybe you'd like to try?

I don’t think that’s quite what’s being proposed, it’s a valid point to say that what’s happening in Gaza isn’t the only atrocity happening in the world but it by far has the largest platform where as other similar atrocities are virtually unknown.
I mean if people did indeed care about the victims of all atrocities, why not at least attempt to even it out?

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 01:04

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 00:58

See my previous posts on how supporting Palestine also happens to be an opportunity to hate on an oppressed group.

I mean it may not be the reason it’s so popular, or it may be the reason - we don’t know, but it’s interesting.

A bit like how all these English League of Twats organisations, or whatever they’re called, only started caring about trafficked children when there was an opportunity to shout abuse at Asian men.

I think it's only you really, that is trying, like the mass media, to paint the picture that Palestine supporters become so to opportunistic Jew haters.

And take away the politics - no! Zionism is a political ideology. Not a religion. Zionists are not an ethnicity.

READ THE QUESTION OF PALESTINE

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 01:06

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 01:03

I don’t think that’s quite what’s being proposed, it’s a valid point to say that what’s happening in Gaza isn’t the only atrocity happening in the world but it by far has the largest platform where as other similar atrocities are virtually unknown.
I mean if people did indeed care about the victims of all atrocities, why not at least attempt to even it out?

How do you propose we do that? It is not the job of people fighting for one thing, to even out all others! Maybe you should?

Go on, come up with a framework.

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 01:14

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 01:04

I think it's only you really, that is trying, like the mass media, to paint the picture that Palestine supporters become so to opportunistic Jew haters.

And take away the politics - no! Zionism is a political ideology. Not a religion. Zionists are not an ethnicity.

READ THE QUESTION OF PALESTINE

I think it's only you really, that is trying, like the mass media, to paint the picture that Palestine supporters become so to opportunistic Jew haters.

I certainly don’t think that of all supporters. It is not anti-Semitic to be Pro-Palestinian. However that’s not to say ALL pro-Palestinian supporters are not anti-Semitic.

For example how come anti-Semitic attacks have risen 250% since October 7th and in some sorts of the world it’s 500%? Coincidence?

These people exist, trust me.

And take away the politics - no! Zionism is a political ideology. Not a religion. Zionists are not an ethnicity

Who said it was a religion or an ethnicity?! It’s not a political ideology either. But what I asked you was do you think Jewish people have a right to their own state?

READ THE QUESTION OF PALESTINE

Erm, no. I don’t acquiesce to shouty demands from rude people

coupdetonnerre · 15/05/2024 01:14

People are so angry here - must be some alcohol involved

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 01:15

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 01:06

How do you propose we do that? It is not the job of people fighting for one thing, to even out all others! Maybe you should?

Go on, come up with a framework.

Why do you need a framework?

How did you find out about, and decide to support, Palestine? Did you use a framework?

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 01:15

coupdetonnerre · 15/05/2024 01:14

People are so angry here - must be some alcohol involved

I wish I could drink alcohol right now I’m on pretty strong painkillers and it even those are enough for this thread 😂

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 01:17

@NikkiMartin why did you want me specifically to ask you if you condemn Hamas??

Im not asking BTW, I couldn’t give two shits, but it was a very odd demand and I’m trying to figure out the motivation behind it.

Bicyclethief · 15/05/2024 01:33

Nikki Martin

I think it's only you really, that is trying, like the mass media, to paint the picture that Palestine supporters become so to opportunistic Jew haters.

And take away the politics - no! Zionism is a political ideology. Not a religion. Zionists are not an ethnicity.

READ THE QUESTION OF PALESTINE

Oh but it is because it involves the Jews. You know it but you will deny it because that's what you do.

Magentaplasticglasses · 15/05/2024 02:21

AngeloMysterioso · 08/05/2024 12:30

Having a scroll through instagram whilst bf-ing.

Now don’t get me wrong, I know what’s going on in the world and I do follow a few “serious” accounts. But I mostly follow the less serious things because it’s just bloody instagram.

I’m just getting tired of seeing so many comments on pictures posted by, say, Vogue Magazine or Rolling Stone, saying “meanwhile in Gaza” “can’t believe you’re posting this pointless crap when there’s a war happening” “Rafah is being bombed and y’all care about the Met Gala?” etc etc.

We know what’s happening in Gaza. We know it’s fucking awful. I hold my children close every day and feel thankful that we’re here and not there. But it’s ok not to be thinking about it ALL THE TIME, and nobody turns to fashion and showbiz accounts on social media for hard hitting geopolitical content!

AIBU to think these people could just… give it a rest?

YANBU

I'm very tired of it because it's all performative. You see the same people come out and "play their part" every time there's an attack on Gaza. As soon as the attack ends they're onto the next fashionable cause.

I've been attacked on my social media for "not thinking about Gaza" or "Not talking about Gaza. One of my close friends is a Palestinian living here. I likely do more to support people affected by the war than the "Woke Warriors" do.

I just don't talk at all about Israel/Palestine because people never ever stay civil, pretty much all posts I've seen end in anger, upset and insults. Its not that I don't care about either side, I care very much that people on both sides have suffered such loss. I just don't see how fighting online helps anyone.

slore · 15/05/2024 03:33

I agree with this so much. I go on shallow gossip and showbiz news to escape the horrors of the real world. I don't need this to be taken away from me.

And it achieves nothing! In fact I think it's often inflammatory and damaging the public's understanding of the causes of the war.

AngeloMysterioso · 15/05/2024 06:34

There was one particular person who was commenting all over posts about a particular topic I’m interested in and when I asked them to take a break I was called pro-genocide, evil, told I have a passion for dead babies (I mean what the fuck?!).

It’s just too much, and I’ve now reached the point with it where every time I see another obnoxious comment about it I actually find myself having a little bit less sympathy.

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Humdingerydoo · 15/05/2024 08:21

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Arabic Jews persecuted by the Americans? No, they were persecuted by their fellow Arabs who decided they wanted to get rid of Jews. So they did.

YaMuvva · 15/05/2024 08:45

Humdingerydoo · 15/05/2024 08:21

Arabic Jews persecuted by the Americans? No, they were persecuted by their fellow Arabs who decided they wanted to get rid of Jews. So they did.

Indeed.

I mean you can say a lot about the Americans but they contain some of the world’s most Jewish friendly places.

Id like to know more about these fairy stories

Humdingerydoo · 15/05/2024 08:55

And OP, I agree with you. I felt the same with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Shaming people for not showing they care enough for your liking? No thanks. I care, I just don't need others praising me for caring by doing it constantly and publicly. I don't do it for the likes, hearts or whatever on social media.

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