Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be tired of these types of comments on social media?

150 replies

AngeloMysterioso · 08/05/2024 12:30

Having a scroll through instagram whilst bf-ing.

Now don’t get me wrong, I know what’s going on in the world and I do follow a few “serious” accounts. But I mostly follow the less serious things because it’s just bloody instagram.

I’m just getting tired of seeing so many comments on pictures posted by, say, Vogue Magazine or Rolling Stone, saying “meanwhile in Gaza” “can’t believe you’re posting this pointless crap when there’s a war happening” “Rafah is being bombed and y’all care about the Met Gala?” etc etc.

We know what’s happening in Gaza. We know it’s fucking awful. I hold my children close every day and feel thankful that we’re here and not there. But it’s ok not to be thinking about it ALL THE TIME, and nobody turns to fashion and showbiz accounts on social media for hard hitting geopolitical content!

AIBU to think these people could just… give it a rest?

OP posts:
AlreadyMine · 10/05/2024 12:13

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 10:23

Yes and when we point it out we are told to STFU.

War is never, ever pretty or easy but the Israel/Palestinian conflict isn’t as black and white as it’s made out to be. Gaza’s government is a terrorist organisation that have committed horrific atrocities and it baffles me that people believe Israel don’t have the right to defend itself.

However in China there are Uyghur Muslim children being forcibly removed from the parents who are being put into concentration camps and are being tortured, for no reason other than religious hatred - the Uyghurs have never kidnapped any Chinese people or waged war or spread hate, they don’t have a government and just want to live peacefully…. and NO ONE cares because there isn’t a hashtag or emoji or , for some, an opportunity to hate Jewish people.

Some Uyghurs are fleeing to Turkey - if anyone wants to help them you can find out more here https://onenationuk.org/projects/help-the-uyghur?gadsource=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwi_exBhA8EiwA_kU1Mv_CDXJLYlJovmA0sn723HQfZA9hoJHmV4ztHcV3ADhBdEOoNovZ4RoCsw0QAvD_BwE

Edited

The situation with the Uyghurs is appalling. I have extended family trying to do some work with this group but it’s really difficult to gain access. This has been going on for a long time now and it does feel like nobody cares.

I would hope people would take to the streets to protest if Sunak said the UK government stood with China against the Uyghurs. Who knows though.

PurpleChrayn · 10/05/2024 12:16

Try being a Jew and seeing the relentless barrage of thinly veiled antisemitism.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 12:18

AlreadyMine · 10/05/2024 12:13

The situation with the Uyghurs is appalling. I have extended family trying to do some work with this group but it’s really difficult to gain access. This has been going on for a long time now and it does feel like nobody cares.

I would hope people would take to the streets to protest if Sunak said the UK government stood with China against the Uyghurs. Who knows though.

Yes China and what can be communicated out of China is SO secretive and there’s so little awareness of Uyghurs in Turkey that it’s very hard to access so well done to your relatives, it can’t be easy.

It would be different though if Sunak said that because it’s not a war against two actions, it’s just plain old genocide of Chinese citizens BY China.

Halfheadhighlights · 10/05/2024 12:19

Yeah I agree it’s so annoying

HappyEater · 10/05/2024 12:21

I instilled my own ‘unfollow if anyone mentions politics’ rule a few years ago. It’s cleansing. Who cares what instafloggers think; their whole existence is on dodgy ground, they’re in no position to pontificate about serious issues, then link a haul on the next story.

110APiccadilly · 10/05/2024 12:44

I don't think it can be good for us to dwell on atrocities all the time. We live in an age where we have unprecedented access to views and news about terrible things happening all over the world, about which, generally, we can do nothing (or at most sign some online petition that's got a good chance of being ignored).

I think we'd do better if we thought less about those things (I'm not saying don't think about them at all) and more about things we can do something about, which are generally small local things.

Is doing a litter pick, for instance, a better use of your time than consuming news about Gaza/ Ukraine/ China? It probably is, because you've identified a problem and you're doing something about it. And I'd stake money it's a lot better for your mental health. And you have to ask sometimes, how does your awareness of the suffering of others actually help them?

Obviously if you're in a position to actually be able to do something, the above does not apply. But in all honesty, that's got to be a tiny minority of people.

Perpetualpotion · 10/05/2024 12:47

It’s performative caring; just the worst kind of pointless virtue signalling. Why should an influencer have to use their platform in that way? Ridiculous.

AlreadyMine · 10/05/2024 12:52

I was chatting to some Taylor Swift fans who were annoyed that she was not using her platforms to speak out about the current conflict in the Middle East. I said, she is a singer, why on earth is she obliged to speak on this? And cope with the reactions it could provoke. She can of course speak if she wants to but why the hell should she be pressurised to do so?

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 12:54

AngeloMysterioso · 08/05/2024 22:02

It’s just… I mean… aren’t these people exhausted? Having that much righteous indignation all the time must get tiring…

Interesting that you only feel this when when it Pro-Palestine.

Personally, I follow a lot of stuff about this, and see a lot of ’I stand with israel’, ’get them all’, ’flatten Gaza’ etc.
So aren’t you also tired of ’pro-israelis’? And their performative virtue signalling (well, they seem to be more about spreading hatred).
They are really working extra hard.

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 12:59

YaMuvva · 09/05/2024 23:49

It’s not what abouttery because it IS happening to Muslims in China. What’s wrong with pointing out the disparity in support?

But if you want people to care about muslims in China, then why are upset people care about muslims in Palestine?
Shouldn’t everyone be worried when genocide is happening?
I think we should.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 13:05

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 12:59

But if you want people to care about muslims in China, then why are upset people care about muslims in Palestine?
Shouldn’t everyone be worried when genocide is happening?
I think we should.

Do not twist my words.

Im not upset that people care about Muslims in Palestine. I’m upset over the ever increasing anti-semitism over the Israel/Palestine conflict and I’m VERY suspicious about how ‘progressives’ only seem to care about the situation in which they can air thinly veiled anti-Semitic views.

Yes we should worry about genocide but when war breaks out it’s ridiculous that people take such a black and white approach when it’s not that simple. I’m seeing too many Hamas fangirls and fanboys under the banner of Free Palestine and the calls for ethnic cleansing of Jewish people from their homeland and their ONE Jewish State in the whole world less than 8 decades are 6 million of them were brutally murdered, is basically history repeating itself. And people can’t see and they don’t care.

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 13:25

Custardcream84 · 10/05/2024 07:40

It’s funny isn’t it. People who speak up on their platforms are criticised because they get told they are too ignorant to comment on the issue. People who just post to raise awareness on other posts get told stop doing that we don’t want to hear about it on this account why don’t you go out and do something that will actually make a difference. People who go out on the marches and protests get told you’re disrupting everyone and making people uncomfortable and no one can go shopping on a Saturday afternoon why are you affecting normal people who can do nothing rather than those who can. People who just boycott companies in BDS get told they shouldn’t and it’s ineffective. The people who actually try and effect change (eg the student encampments to get their universities to divest from arming Israel) get told they are violent for sitting in tents trying to make a point and should make their concerns known at the ballot box. And then people who do make their opinion known at the ballot box get told how dare they let issues in the Middle East affect their vote rather than their bin collections or LTN rules.

And all the while terrible things are happening and atrocities are occurring. Rafah the last safe place is being attacked and mass graves are being discovered in hospitals full of doctors and patients. Every single type of person mentioned above is better than all the sneering sniffy commenters on this thread. It’s the people who ask for change and demand change that make it. Not a single bit of progress from workers rights to women’s votes to the end of apartheid would have happened without outrage and protest and I honestly don’t give a rats arse that your mindless scrolling is being disturbed by the odd commenter posting Palestine flags because clearly you aren’t seeing the children crushed by rubble or ripped to shreds that some of us are seeing because the only way to show people what’s happening is social media.

No doubt I’ll now get called sanctimonious and virtue signalling because I want more outrage on a genocide that has been sanctioned by every Western nation.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯💯

JazbayGrapes · 10/05/2024 14:53

Bless your socks. Palestine flags disturbing your instagram scroll.

Trez1510 · 10/05/2024 17:08

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 08:04

…that’s nice? Do you want a medal?

But I’ll ask again - why when I posted about an Auschwitz survivor looking for information on his parents in a book of remembrance did you bring Rafah into it? What’s the link? What promoted you to think “I’ll bring a completely separate Gaza related topic into this chat”. Do you do that on everything or only when people talk about Jews?

As for everything else - do you want a medal?
And what is wrong with Zionism? It’s the belief that Jewish people are entitled to their own state. WHY, when literally every tiger major religion on the land has numerous states of their own are you ONLY ‘anti’ Jewish people have a state of their own?
BTW you can be a Zionist and believe in a tow state solution, because Jewish people still then get their state. That’s certainly my viewpoint. So yes anti-a Zionism iIS anti-semitism because you actively believe that, despite Judaism being an ancient religion (and Jewish people being a race rather ran a religion) where Jewish people have spent millennia being exiled from their homes, they don’t deserve to have ONE SINGLE STATE.
Why not?

I repeat - this is a thread about Palestine. It is not about Jewish people and/or the holocaust. Why did you bring that topic up?

Thanks for both medals, much appreciated.

hipingpot · 10/05/2024 17:39

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

AngeloMysterioso · 10/05/2024 20:07

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 12:54

Interesting that you only feel this when when it Pro-Palestine.

Personally, I follow a lot of stuff about this, and see a lot of ’I stand with israel’, ’get them all’, ’flatten Gaza’ etc.
So aren’t you also tired of ’pro-israelis’? And their performative virtue signalling (well, they seem to be more about spreading hatred).
They are really working extra hard.

Edited

Where did I say that?

Honestly, I can’t say I’ve seen a whole lot of pro-Israel comments.

OP posts:
YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:08

Trez1510 · 10/05/2024 17:08

I repeat - this is a thread about Palestine. It is not about Jewish people and/or the holocaust. Why did you bring that topic up?

Thanks for both medals, much appreciated.

I’ll repeat this too for a second time and I’ll spell it out really clearly:

This thread is about the pressure on celebrities to voice their pro ‘Free Palestine‘ views.

I pointed out that many celebrities may wish to keep their distance from the movement because of the very slow tiptoeing the movement had taken into anti-semitism. I gave the Holocaust video with incessant “Free Palestine” comments as an example of the anti-semitism displayed by the movement.

So I’ve answered your question very clearly, now please answer mine - why did you passively aggressively ask me if Rafah will have a book of remembrance in response to my comments about the Holocaust video? What has the Holocaust victims book got to do with Rafah?

Your post really has just proven my point beautifully.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:08

JazbayGrapes · 10/05/2024 14:53

Bless your socks. Palestine flags disturbing your instagram scroll.

When they are all over videos about the Holocaust yes it does disturb me. I’m always disturbed by racism. Aren’t you?

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:14

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

Yes good point - the silencing of people talking about anti-semitism - and we SHOULD be talking about it - is deeply disturbing. When I look back at the propaganda used as early as the 1910’s in now Ukraine where the progroms saw the torture and murder of the Jewish people who they blamed for the turmoil of the Russian Revolution. People warned the world then that if this propaganda didn’t stop, millions would be killed in the coming decades.
And they were right.

Which is why I refuse to be silence about anti-semitism, because I really feel it’s stepping into terrifying territory now.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:14

AngeloMysterioso · 10/05/2024 20:07

Where did I say that?

Honestly, I can’t say I’ve seen a whole lot of pro-Israel comments.

I can’t say I’ve seen those kind of comments on social media or on MN.

But hey why let the truth get in the way of hate.

Trez1510 · 10/05/2024 23:03

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

... about Palestine.

BrightonFrock · 10/05/2024 23:11

Trez1510 · 10/05/2024 23:03

... about Palestine.

FFS, Palestine was an example!! There are dozens of threads specifically about Palestine where you could make these comments. But no - you just HAD to hijack this one. Pathetic.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 23:19

Trez1510 · 10/05/2024 23:03

... about Palestine.

No it’s about social media.

Ill ask again - why did you passive aggressively ask me in response to my post about the Holocaust victims book, if I tonight Rafah might have one too?

What has the Holocaust got to do with what’s happened in Rafah?

Trez1510 · 10/05/2024 23:31

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

BrightonFrock · 11/05/2024 00:01

I'll ask you again, why did you raise the holocaust in a thread about social media posts about what's happening in Palestine?

It wasn’t about social media posts about Palestine. It was about social media posts in general.

I'm no longer engaging with you.

Lucky her.

Swipe left for the next trending thread