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To be tired of these types of comments on social media?

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AngeloMysterioso · 08/05/2024 12:30

Having a scroll through instagram whilst bf-ing.

Now don’t get me wrong, I know what’s going on in the world and I do follow a few “serious” accounts. But I mostly follow the less serious things because it’s just bloody instagram.

I’m just getting tired of seeing so many comments on pictures posted by, say, Vogue Magazine or Rolling Stone, saying “meanwhile in Gaza” “can’t believe you’re posting this pointless crap when there’s a war happening” “Rafah is being bombed and y’all care about the Met Gala?” etc etc.

We know what’s happening in Gaza. We know it’s fucking awful. I hold my children close every day and feel thankful that we’re here and not there. But it’s ok not to be thinking about it ALL THE TIME, and nobody turns to fashion and showbiz accounts on social media for hard hitting geopolitical content!

AIBU to think these people could just… give it a rest?

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YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 00:03

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I'll ask you again, why did you raise the holocaust in a thread about social media posts about what's happening in Palestine?

Are you struggling to read? My answer has been given twice, I’m not repeating myself.
Or was there an aspect of my answer you didn’t understand?

It was a rhetorical question, based on the fact both communities were/are being starved, tortured, moved about their country (and in the case of Palestinians bombed) on the word of those who consider themselves superior to those they were/are murdering.

No it was a passive aggressive moment of anti-semitism. Why bring it up at all on my particular post and not another thread that’s actually about what’s happening in Gaza, and not one about social media?? You just HAD to get your one-upmanship in there.

Furthermore comparing the current conflict to the Holocaust is deeply, deeply offensive. This is exactly why I said about the tiptoeing of anti-senitism.

Anyway, you're obsessed. One-track mind. Unable to afford any empathy or compassion to anyone who is not (exactly like) you.

Hahaha coming from you? Who made a shitty PA remark about Rafah in response to a video about a Holocaust survivor. Funny how when I’ve called you out on your anti-semitism you no longer want to engage.

I see you. I see exactly what you are. You think all Jewish people have a collective responsibility for the current conflict, just like almost every Free Palestine follower I’ve come across.

YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 00:05

You then went on to crow about your political persuasions - no one cares love.

Funny how you didn’t answer the question about why you’re against a Jewish state existing on this planet but not any other main religion. Why is that?

SarzWix · 11/05/2024 00:14

The reason people are commenting on posts like that, is because Meta, and probably X/Twitter are strongly suppressing the reach of any original posts about that particular conflict. I guess people are frustrated, and so attempting to hijack the high traffic on celebrity gossip posts, etc by making comments such as you've mentioned. It may be irritating, but I would prefer young people to be protesting against ongoing genocide, than be irritating in more destructive ways.

hipingpot · 11/05/2024 00:18

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Yes I think that’s sounds like BS too

GordonBlue · 11/05/2024 00:26

I agree it's tiresome and performative.

I think there are two things going on - first, that for any conflict there has to be a good Vs evil narrative. The world is a confusing and random place but dividing people and events into bad and good makes it easier to understand. And once they have decided who is good and who is bad people will rush to associate themselves with who they perceive to be the good guys.

Second is what I think the youngsters call Main Character Energy where people insert themselves into every fucking scenario they become aware of. It's not enough for these bozos to just read about stuff, they have to emote and display a relationship with it, however tenuous. Eg "oh my god, Palestinians are being killed, I had a Palestinian flatbread once, it just makes me feel so sad now" or "oh my god, children are being killed, I have a child, so this is extra bad FOR ME". We've all always done it to a certain extent but in social media you're the star of your own story.

YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 00:27

Also @Trez1510 you could have just made a comment about Rafah without bringing the Holocaust video i mentioned into it. Butike many people these days you seem to believe that the Holocaust cannot be remembered without shoeing in something about Palestine, as if Jewish people are somehow collectively responsible or should express their outrage and comparison. Why is that?

I mean if you’re gonna be anti-Semitic, whatever, but at least have the good grace to own it rather than hiding behind your virtue signalling word salad

YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 00:28

GordonBlue · 11/05/2024 00:26

I agree it's tiresome and performative.

I think there are two things going on - first, that for any conflict there has to be a good Vs evil narrative. The world is a confusing and random place but dividing people and events into bad and good makes it easier to understand. And once they have decided who is good and who is bad people will rush to associate themselves with who they perceive to be the good guys.

Second is what I think the youngsters call Main Character Energy where people insert themselves into every fucking scenario they become aware of. It's not enough for these bozos to just read about stuff, they have to emote and display a relationship with it, however tenuous. Eg "oh my god, Palestinians are being killed, I had a Palestinian flatbread once, it just makes me feel so sad now" or "oh my god, children are being killed, I have a child, so this is extra bad FOR ME". We've all always done it to a certain extent but in social media you're the star of your own story.

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Great post.

SarzWix · 11/05/2024 00:41

YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 00:22

Yes I think that’s sounds like BS too

You're both quite naive about social media then, and how algorithms work. Thankfully, the younger generation are not!
It's blatantly obvious that this happening, any post that mentions Palestine or Gaza has no reach, it doesn't get put in anyone's newsfeed. This has happened to me personally, with my own posts, and it happens to all of the political pages too. They will get thousands of responses to any other post and barely double figures if they mention the forbidden place.

Jumpingthruhoops · 11/05/2024 00:41

Totally agree OP. Unfortunately, it seems EVERYTHING is politicised these days. It's so tedious.

GordonBlue · 11/05/2024 00:51

Hey, cheers @YaMuvva.

Fwiw I agree with you about people invoking the Holocaust in the context of the Gaza conflict. It is grotesque and anti Semitic to do so.

YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 00:56

SarzWix · 11/05/2024 00:41

You're both quite naive about social media then, and how algorithms work. Thankfully, the younger generation are not!
It's blatantly obvious that this happening, any post that mentions Palestine or Gaza has no reach, it doesn't get put in anyone's newsfeed. This has happened to me personally, with my own posts, and it happens to all of the political pages too. They will get thousands of responses to any other post and barely double figures if they mention the forbidden place.

Did you mean to be so patronising and ageist? Do you think the only people who work with social media are the ‘younger generation’? I know exactly how algorithms work thank you, so please do explain to me how all social media platforms prevent pro Palestine and Gaza posts from appearing on “anyone’s” feed.

It’s funny because although I don’t follow or support any pro Palestine pages it’s all that comes up on X or Instagram feeds.

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YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 01:09

First of all, this does not reflect your claim that pro-Palestinian content isn’t showing up on ‘anybody’s feed’. It’s largely about Meta’s flawed detection system rather than a concerted effort to censor pro-Palestinian users.

Did you not notice this part early on:
Despite the censorship documented in this report, Meta allows a significant amount of pro-Palestinian expression and denunciations of Israeli government policies

I would also question the framework they used to decide which ‘peaceful posts’ were removed - because IME pro-Palestinian posts that many consider ‘peaceful’ others would consider hateful.

Secondly, Human Rights Watch is hugely biased against Israel and has accepted some dodgy donations from people affiliated with atrocities in the past. I wouldn’t trust them to fairly assess anything to do with Israel and Palestine as far as I could throw them.

Thirdly, this all sails far too close to the winds of the “Jews run the media” conspiracy theory, which is a falsehood as old as the media itself and one driving factor behind widespread anti-semitism.

Luio · 11/05/2024 03:58

It must be why celebrities and politicians often do the ‘thoughts and prayers’ bit about the main issue of the day when they are being interviewed or doing a speech. It comes across as totally insincere but presumably it is to put these people off a bit.

YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 11:22

Luio · 11/05/2024 03:58

It must be why celebrities and politicians often do the ‘thoughts and prayers’ bit about the main issue of the day when they are being interviewed or doing a speech. It comes across as totally insincere but presumably it is to put these people off a bit.

Yes this always happens on PMQs

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 11/05/2024 12:01

SarzWix · 11/05/2024 00:41

You're both quite naive about social media then, and how algorithms work. Thankfully, the younger generation are not!
It's blatantly obvious that this happening, any post that mentions Palestine or Gaza has no reach, it doesn't get put in anyone's newsfeed. This has happened to me personally, with my own posts, and it happens to all of the political pages too. They will get thousands of responses to any other post and barely double figures if they mention the forbidden place.

I think this is total BS. I constantly get sponsored content asking for donations to Palestinian causes on Instagram.

YaMuvva · 11/05/2024 12:16

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 11/05/2024 12:01

I think this is total BS. I constantly get sponsored content asking for donations to Palestinian causes on Instagram.

Absolutely it apparently we are all old fogies who know nothing about algorithms 😂😂

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 00:06

YaMuvva · 09/05/2024 23:49

It’s not what abouttery because it IS happening to Muslims in China. What’s wrong with pointing out the disparity in support?

Because it's a ridiculous notion. What about pensions? What about women's rights? What about Rochdale? What about British involvement during the troubles? What about Afghanistan? What about Yemen? What about Sudan?

People should feel passionate about something and fight for it! But it's a nuts approach to think it all needs to be in moderation or clipped by some other atrocity.

How on earth do you expect anything to get done if we constantly think about alternatives? You pick up a torch and you carry it for what you feel strongly about. How can a single person encompass all the worlds evils and try to solve them all together? Nutty ideology

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 00:09

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 11/05/2024 12:01

I think this is total BS. I constantly get sponsored content asking for donations to Palestinian causes on Instagram.

It's not total BS. It may not be the case for everyone but it has absolutely been the case for me - if I share a story of a dog, 300 views, if I share something from middleeasteye, 5 views. People can't preview your story, so it has been shown as an option to click on to far less people. It has been censored.

coupdetonnerre · 15/05/2024 00:10

secretllama · 08/05/2024 13:49

Agree... it always bothers me when people are pointing out peoples silence but why aren't they saying this about the ethnic cleansing in China etc?

Or the Situation in Congo and everything else happening in Africa. The same people will never ever speak up about any of this.

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 00:11

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NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 00:14

FindThatThing · 10/05/2024 12:54

Interesting that you only feel this when when it Pro-Palestine.

Personally, I follow a lot of stuff about this, and see a lot of ’I stand with israel’, ’get them all’, ’flatten Gaza’ etc.
So aren’t you also tired of ’pro-israelis’? And their performative virtue signalling (well, they seem to be more about spreading hatred).
They are really working extra hard.

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This. 😊

NikkiMartin · 15/05/2024 00:15

coupdetonnerre · 15/05/2024 00:10

Or the Situation in Congo and everything else happening in Africa. The same people will never ever speak up about any of this.

YOU SHOULD SPEAK UP ABOUT IT THEN!!

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