To think most women on here hate men

[Tanyahawkes]

Sorry for the rant but I’m noticing a pattern on mn, any post involving a man and a disagreement results in multiple calls of he’s a narcissist, he’s abusing, he’s controlling, leave the bastard!

I’ll admit that a list of posts do involve behaviour that is not nice from dh and dp. So many posts also can be interpreted in many ways too, I just feel like a large number of women jump to the worst conclusion first about a strangers partner, having only one side of a story told in a short version.

for anyone misunderstanding me, if a post says the partner is hurting physically, calling names, cheating, putting the op down, then yes I agree, ltb (so long as the post is true) it’s when a post says “great relationship, today partner upset me and we couldn’t see eye to eye” and everyone calls the poor guy a narcissist etc

@Youdontevengohere I wonder what the case is in wealthier areas? I suppose men and women in those areas are also of equal/similar financial standing?

I have no idea TBH, although I’m sure stats exist on it. I was just saying that not being wealthy doesn’t appear to prevent men from finding partners, in my experience. Or is your point that wealthy women wouldn’t go out with non wealthy men?

IPPR stats from 2012 (so admittedly somewhat outdated now), but the only stats I can find

The latest generation of women, born between 1976-1981 and aged 28-33 at the beginning of this decade, are even more likely to have married a partner in the same social class (56 per cent) and far less likely to have a partner from a higher social class than themselves (16 per cent). Most significantly, for this modern generation of women, a higher proportion have married a partner of a lower social class than themselves for the very first time (28 per cent).

@taleasoldashoney It really is fascinating. Do you think the much younger woman marrying much older wealthy man is a fallacy?

Well I’m sure it happens, just like all different combinations of couples happen. I don’t think it’s particularly common, though.

I've no stats for it but I'd imagine it's much more common for men to 'marry down' as financial security isn't usually part of the dating criteria for most men.

I'm not sure that this is necessarily the case anymore, certainly in my group, more of the women have careers, homes and assets. I would need to find the reference but I saw a stat recently that said that more single women own their own homes compared to single men.

@Spywoman @Catsmere it's practically Victorian isn't it? I'll be told I'm hysterical next.

@PamPamPamPam Well if there's one thing we can agree on, I'm guessing neither of us are a Mrs 😀

I hope you have a chaise to hand for when you swoon gracefully

Or even earlier, and that it's all caused by your Wandering Womb!

I don't doubt that. I remember reading that young women have outearned men for well over a decade with it only reversing around 35-40 when they have kids.

However, I more meant that women are more reluctant to marry a lower earner. Men who earn less or are a SAHD are statistically more likely to be divorced.

I think it was The Economist that did a study which found that childless female execs 'continued to be promoted more aggressively than their male counterparts'.

I read it on here and was sceptical but the link was legit, it was a female economist talking about it in a discussion around feminism.

@taleasoldashoney oh yes, my "lady companion" and I have a couple of appropriately placed fainting couches for just such occasions.

@Catsmere well I wish it would finally wander away and leave me alone 😂

They never do stop causing trouble, even when most of their functions have quit! 😆

@WalrusOfLove oh I see what you mean, I can't vouch for the statistics but anecdotally I can see that being the case. A lot of my single friends are not prepared to enter into relationships unless their potential partner ticks a number of boxes and finances are definitely on there.

Perhaps the fact that as a society we are settling down later plays into it as well? If you're starting out together you can't exactly judge someone's earning potential but by the time you're in your late 20s+ you have a pretty good idea.

Yes, that's an interesting point. I've often wondered about old school marriages of a few decades ago when people were married and having kids by 25. I'll bet a lot of women looked back and thought "why the hell did I marry him!"

I wonder what the origin of women (in general) prioritising financial stability more than men stems from. It could just be an extension of traditional roles or it could be related to many knowing they'll leave the workforce to have kids (and also a fair few that would prefer to be comfortable enough to never go back to full time work).

Exactly this! I think the vast majority of women are intelligent enough to understand whether they are reading about a run of the mill argument or an abusive situation!

Tbf I've seen posters telling somebody to LTB over 'manflu'. 🤣 The OP thought he was being overdramatic and posters were saying he was emotionally controlling her. I remember thinking at the time it was a bit of a double standard as I'd seen other threads where the hubby was getting an absolute roasting for not being supportive enough when the OP had been ill.

But usually you can tell the loons from the more balanced posters, although for some reason there do seem to be a fair few of the former on here.

I have a tricky relationship with men (terrible childhood) which renders me wary of all of them to be honest. Women can be just as bad. But my mind quite frequently reminds me that a lot of men are dangerous and I think they’re getting worse not better.

Obviously there are some angels. I have a husband and 2 sons who are my world - but outside of that immediate unit I am quite untrusting of men. I don’t know what that makes me. But I wanted to be honest.

Brilliant.

Look at any forum, online streaming chats, social media, and you will see how much men clearly hate us. They aren't even subtle about it these days at all

Dd goes to a girls school. The boys school group chats are brutal about the girls. She saw one and was horrified. Pulling apart their looks horrible nick names from sexual stuff etc really nasty. The girls aren’t perfect but their chats are nothing approaching those levels of vitriol about the boys.

I have to chuckle that some posters think that typing 'I hate men' a narrow search parameter is proving Mumsnetters don't hate men.
The general feeling is that some posters don't like men which is either implied or rather explicitly militant.

Yep. Women hate men's abusive behaviour. There are almost zero women here who openly hate men or even imply it.

But men's online comments are a regular horror show. Truly frightening.