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To think most women on here hate men

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Tanyahawkes · 07/05/2024 18:45

Sorry for the rant but I’m noticing a pattern on mn, any post involving a man and a disagreement results in multiple calls of he’s a narcissist, he’s abusing, he’s controlling, leave the bastard!

I’ll admit that a list of posts do involve behaviour that is not nice from dh and dp. So many posts also can be interpreted in many ways too, I just feel like a large number of women jump to the worst conclusion first about a strangers partner, having only one side of a story told in a short version.

for anyone misunderstanding me, if a post says the partner is hurting physically, calling names, cheating, putting the op down, then yes I agree, ltb (so long as the post is true) it’s when a post says “great relationship, today partner upset me and we couldn’t see eye to eye” and everyone calls the poor guy a narcissist etc

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AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 02:00

@Tanyahawkes Quite possibly.
Hope the weird noise has stopped now?
I can't sleep at all because hubby is snoring so loudly it's almost causing the windows to rattle!! Think I'm going to LTB... 😜

strangewomenlyinginponds · 10/05/2024 02:05

Tanyahawkes · 10/05/2024 01:52

Why did you ask if I was still wittering on though, I had not been arguing for hours and was in fact asleep while some other people were arguing

Your never ending posting and wittering is a clue. Like now.

So, as you know most women here don't hate men. Asked and answered.

Tanyahawkes · 10/05/2024 02:05

AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 02:00

@Tanyahawkes Quite possibly.
Hope the weird noise has stopped now?
I can't sleep at all because hubby is snoring so loudly it's almost causing the windows to rattle!! Think I'm going to LTB... 😜

Funnily enough the noise seems to have stopped, it was like the creaking of a swing chain rubbing over and over, I’ve been awake about 15 min and it’s only just stopped a couple of min ago, I was dreaming that there was the same noise and as I approached a kids park I had realised the noise was a swing creaking, so very odd, then I find all this goings on 🤣

back to sleep for me, I hope your hubby stops snoring soon so you can sleep, mine denys snoring (he doesn’t snore much) I however snore like a rhino when I’ve got a cold, poor guy doesn’t get much sleep when that happens

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strangewomenlyinginponds · 10/05/2024 02:06

So, as we all now agree, most women on here don't hate men.

Excellent :)

Tanyahawkes · 10/05/2024 02:09

strangewomenlyinginponds · 10/05/2024 02:05

Your never ending posting and wittering is a clue. Like now.

So, as you know most women here don't hate men. Asked and answered.

Ahh yes my sleeping and having finished arguing many hours ago was very wittering, I think you meant someone else maybe, unless you were trying to goad me back into an argument, my last post that I would think maybe considered arguing was around maybe 7pm or thereabouts. I think you maybe made a mistake and seem unwilling to admit it, so unless you can quote which post you were referring to of mine, I’ll say good nite to everyone

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strangewomenlyinginponds · 10/05/2024 02:12

Tanyahawkes · 10/05/2024 02:09

Ahh yes my sleeping and having finished arguing many hours ago was very wittering, I think you meant someone else maybe, unless you were trying to goad me back into an argument, my last post that I would think maybe considered arguing was around maybe 7pm or thereabouts. I think you maybe made a mistake and seem unwilling to admit it, so unless you can quote which post you were referring to of mine, I’ll say good nite to everyone

So, as we all now agree, most women on here don't hate men.

Excellent :)

Tanyahawkes · 10/05/2024 02:14

strangewomenlyinginponds · 10/05/2024 02:12

So, as we all now agree, most women on here don't hate men.

Excellent :)

So you are just trying to goad me back in, goodnight

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AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 02:14

@strangewomenlyinginponds You need a new phone I think.

strangewomenlyinginponds · 10/05/2024 02:22

It's fantastic that we all now agree that most women on here don't hate men :) great outcome :)

strangewomenlyinginponds · 10/05/2024 02:23

Tanyahawkes · 10/05/2024 02:14

So you are just trying to goad me back in, goodnight

So great that we all now agree that most women here don't hate men.

Good outcome :)

Catsmere · 10/05/2024 03:21

Spywoman · 10/05/2024 00:25

You're right. That poster is clearly not posting in good faith, so best not to engage.

The goading of an articulate and passionate poster with faux concern for their mental health gave it away.

I agree with you, the instruction to 'be kind' is so damaging and insidious. It seems so reasonable when you're growing up, I mean why shouldn't you be caring to others. Except when you see it's a trap designed to keep you from looking out for yourself and other women; it's only women and girls that are told this.

And once the scales fall, then you're told you're angry or mentally unstable. Which is another trap.

It's all about being made to be smaller.

And all those cool women that pass on the 'be kind' message, you're not making things better for lovely men. You're enabling the tossers, abusers and wankers.

I'm perfectly able to like, love and admire decent men. That doesn't stop me seeing that society is rigged in men's favour and there are many men that do want to debase and abuse women. Just go on a review site of female sex workers to see how some men really consider women. My experience of abusive men has enabled me to see red flags where they exist and I will continue to pass on that information because I wish someone had done that for me.

Believe it or not, I and many women on here can hold several viewpoints simultaneously without their head exploding.

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Perfect post, thank you!

5128gap · 10/05/2024 06:19

AbFabDaaaaahling · 09/05/2024 23:23

@taleasoldashoney You're being ridiculous now! The lady is angry, she hates all men, she clearly feels very hard done by. Even successful people need support sometimes. And that's OK.

The poster is angry about how she and other women have been treated by men, and rightly so. Justifiable anger is not 'unhealthy' its a motivating force to fight back on behalf of yourself and others. I'm sure there are those who would find it preferable to pathologise that anger and have it 'counselled away' so women like @PamPamPamPam hush up and the behaviour of men remains concealed, but that's not up to you to choose.

TheaBrandt · 10/05/2024 06:40

If a dispassionate alien came down and observed society and how men as a class dominate and abuse women as a class and have done for a millennia they would be incredulous that women have anything to do with men at all - let alone whine that women dare to ”hate” them.

Just look at the stats! The porn /the punter review sites / incel culture /the rape in war / 2 women a week killed /the fact that society is set by and run for men. They only let us participate because we fought back via the suffragettes and that was grudging. The hate is pretty much one way dear and it ain’t coming from Us!

grinandslothit · 10/05/2024 06:58

NOT ALL WOMEN

Catsmere · 10/05/2024 07:15

TheaBrandt · 10/05/2024 06:40

If a dispassionate alien came down and observed society and how men as a class dominate and abuse women as a class and have done for a millennia they would be incredulous that women have anything to do with men at all - let alone whine that women dare to ”hate” them.

Just look at the stats! The porn /the punter review sites / incel culture /the rape in war / 2 women a week killed /the fact that society is set by and run for men. They only let us participate because we fought back via the suffragettes and that was grudging. The hate is pretty much one way dear and it ain’t coming from Us!

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TheaBrandt · 10/05/2024 08:14

When I see numerous mainstream porn sites with lots of “teen boy destroyed by older women” etc then I’ll believe the hate is both ways…! Come on op is taking the piss surely

AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 08:20

Yes, women never take advantage of men, only ever the other way around. That's actually impossible.
Anyway, can't add any more right now. I'm off to have my nails done with my husband's hard-earned cash and then for brunch with a group of my like-minded feminist girl friends.

Catsmere · 10/05/2024 08:20

Or setting up for all the MRAs to spout their rubbish.

AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 08:23

@Catsmere Men. Who needs them, eh?!!

5128gap · 10/05/2024 08:36

AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 08:23

@Catsmere Men. Who needs them, eh?!!

If you're a decent man, I'm sure there will be a woman out there who will want you, even if they don't need you. Some women don't want men and that's their perogative, but good men don't typically struggle to find a partner despite that. Rather than blame 'man haters' if you're struggling to find women to consider you, you maybe need to reflect on how you come across.
(I'm using the general 'you' here of course. Because I know you personally are a happily married feminist lady. Obviously.)

AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 09:38

@5128gap Less wealthy men probably struggle to find a woman, too?

5128gap · 10/05/2024 10:06

AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 09:38

@5128gap Less wealthy men probably struggle to find a woman, too?

Not in my experience they don't, and I'm a WC woman from a deprived area, so I've known plenty of them, and they're certainly not all single. Obviously if less wealthy men set their sights on a cohort of women who value wealth highly, they will be disappointed. Just as short men won't attract women who value height, or dim witted ones won't appeal to women who prize intelligence. But, that's tough, isn't it? Few of us get to choose from every single member of our preferred sex.

Youdontevengohere · 10/05/2024 12:13

AbFabDaaaaahling · 10/05/2024 09:38

@5128gap Less wealthy men probably struggle to find a woman, too?

That’s not my experience. I live in a working class area, not much wealth around, and there doesn’t seem to be any fewer ‘coupled up’ people than in more wealthy areas 🤷🏻‍♀️.

WalrusOfLove · 10/05/2024 12:34

TheaBrandt · 10/05/2024 06:40

If a dispassionate alien came down and observed society and how men as a class dominate and abuse women as a class and have done for a millennia they would be incredulous that women have anything to do with men at all - let alone whine that women dare to ”hate” them.

Just look at the stats! The porn /the punter review sites / incel culture /the rape in war / 2 women a week killed /the fact that society is set by and run for men. They only let us participate because we fought back via the suffragettes and that was grudging. The hate is pretty much one way dear and it ain’t coming from Us!

Wasn't it more the war effort and women's solidarity with men during that period that resulted in the vote? And the fact that other countries including Australia had already given women the vote, making Britain look a bit backwards.

I'm sure I've read that the suffragettes mostly disbanded before the war so I think it's more likely the result of women's wartime effort.

TheaBrandt · 10/05/2024 12:48

When they first let women into Cambridge the male students quite literally rioted in protest.