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So upset about my daughter

349 replies

Fireangels · 06/05/2024 23:32

Will try to be brief. But a bit of background. My DM who is in her 80s wanted to update her will. She wanted to include her 3 DCs and her 4 DHCs. My DF is still living but is very frail and has been bedridden for nearly 4 years. She asked my advice as of myself and siblings I do the most to provide care and support to my parents. Since my DFs illness, my adult DD2 decided to move in with my parents to also provide support to them.

Whenever my DM would ask advice about her will I always said it was completely up to her who she left what to, but to express this in terms of percentages rather than amounts as we don’t really know what her estate would be worth. I also arranged for the title deeds to be changed on the house she jointly owns with my DF in case she pre-deceased him in case as a result he has to go into residential care. (This means she can leave her half of the property independently so it does not pass to my DF where it could then be taken to pay care fees).

Once DM had made her decision about her beneficiaries I took her to a solicitor for the Will to be drafted.

When we got back, DM told my DD2 what she had decided. (She stands to inherit a fairly substantial sum). My DD2 who is and always has been very strong willed, was upset. I couldn’t understand why, as I feel that it is a massive privilege to be mentioned in a grandparent’s will.

She later told my DH (her DF) that my DM had told her that she and the other DGCs would be getting far more, and accused me of coercing my DM to leave them less so that my siblings and I would inherit more. She admitted to eavesdropping on conversations my DM had with me, and that she had kept a record of these for some months which she intended to present to the police to accuse me of financial abuse/coercion etc and have me prosecuted. I am absolutely devastated that she has done this. It seems she’s caught snippets of various conversations where I’ve tried to help my DM organise her thoughts (without influencing her), and concluded that I’ve convinced her to leave her and the other GCs less than she originally intended.

I am very close to my DM and discussed this with her. She says she may have mentioned the will to my DD2. But certainly did not make any promises, and said that she does not intend to leave the GCs as much as my DD2 seems to think, the detriment of her owns DCs (my siblings and I), and doesn’t know why she thinks this. Just to be clear, we’re not talking in terms of a huge amount for anyone, just a terraced house in the SE.

So my DD2 and I have not spoken for several weeks, to further complicate things. My older DD1 (who DD2 had always, since toddler-hood been jealous of) gets married in a few months and is devastated that we now have a family rift. Since a small child DD2 has always been unable to see anything from anyone else’s point of view, would argue about anything and never take no for an answer.

To make things even worse, today is DD2s birthday. For the first time ever. I haven’t sent her a card, taken her out, wished her happy birthday or sent her cash for her birthday. I’ve felt sick and tearful all day. But don’t feel I can speak to her atm until she approaches me to discuss. She had never in her life ever apologised to me about anything as she genuinely never accepts that she may be in the wrong about anything. But I just don’t feel I can let this go as I have done about other situations in the past.

Im sorry that this post is far longer than I thought it would be, but didn’t want to drip-feed, Thanks if you’ve read it all.

Please be kind 😢

OP posts:
SD1978 · 07/05/2024 06:06

@Dollenganger333- I think you're confused- DD2 just means the second eldest- she is an adult, not a toddler.

Dollenganger333 · 07/05/2024 06:09

No, I am not confused;

Since a small child DD2 has always been unable to see anything from anyone else’s point of view, would argue about anything and never take no for an answer.

Clearly, the DD's behaviour at this point is unacceptable. But the above says a lot about this family dynamic as a whole. And I do believe that most of the time, parents are at least partially responsible for how a child turns out.

crew2022 · 07/05/2024 06:14

I'm sorry this has happened. It's shocking when a dc does something like this.
It's good you have made some contact on her birthday but I'd be careful now with this relationship as she's not trustworthy

PuddlesPityParty · 07/05/2024 06:15

Fireangels · 07/05/2024 00:30

My DM has said she’s so shocked about this, but relies on DD so much and wouldn’t be able to cope if she wasn’t there due to her poor mobility. DD loves her DGM so wouldn’t move out anyway.

Wait. She doesn’t provide care but your DM relies on her so much..? Which is it, OP?

Sorry to say but I think there’s more to this story than you’re letting on.

FangsForTheMemory · 07/05/2024 06:19

I wonder if your DD2 moved in with her grandmother in the expectation that she would inherit her house and is angry that she’s not going to.

in any case, she sounds poisonous.

ZekeZeke · 07/05/2024 06:23

She is an entitled madam.
I would say if she continues with these accusations of coercion, the original will may be reinstated (where she and the other grandchildren get bugger all)

Sunnnybunny72 · 07/05/2024 06:24

Shouldn't your parents' money primarily be used to pay care fees if the need arises rather than you getting an inheritance?

VestibuleVirgin · 07/05/2024 06:30

DD2 should know eavesdropping is rude in the extreme, and one never gets full context.
She sounds like a proper little madam and was expecting some monetary reward for the care she provided
Proving financial coercion is very difficult

Sasqwatch · 07/05/2024 06:35

Stompythedinosaur · 06/05/2024 23:43

I don't understand why you wouldn't mark your child's birthday, even if you have had a fight. I think that's really hurtful.

Give over, read the post again 🙄🙄🙄

Isthisreasonable · 07/05/2024 06:35

Dweetfidilove · 07/05/2024 00:15

I wouldn’t be surprised if she moved in with an intention of securing/ boosting her inheritance. She sounds awfully greedy and wicked. I understand you’re upset, OP. In fact I’d be considering whether I leave her anything from my own estate- shocking behaviour ☹️.

This

Fairyliz · 07/05/2024 06:37

Your father is bedridden so you have encouraged your mum to change her will to avoid possibly having to pay care home costs for him, if she pre deceases him?
If this happens who will pay these costs?
It will be the taxpayers ie the rest of us.

It appears you have been grabby to ensure you don’t lose out, seems your daughter has followed your lead.

Justleaveitblankthen · 07/05/2024 06:42

Dweetfidilove · 07/05/2024 00:15

I wouldn’t be surprised if she moved in with an intention of securing/ boosting her inheritance. She sounds awfully greedy and wicked. I understand you’re upset, OP. In fact I’d be considering whether I leave her anything from my own estate- shocking behaviour ☹️.

This.

The way your daughter has reacted so strongly with recording conversations/eavesdropping and complete rage and threats of reporting you, she had her eye on the money from the start.
She probably wanted to be placed above others - at least her own cousins - and is furious.

I hope she gets her own Karma down the line.

Lifestooshort71 · 07/05/2024 06:44

What's a DHC???

Allwelcone · 07/05/2024 06:44

OP that sounds so awful!
Some good suggestions here on the whole., re family meeting etc to try and heal the rift, making sure you're not executor etc.
You may need to think about ways she can move out of your parents house, e.g getting a cleaner and some paid-for care.

On a deeper level, we can not choose our children any more than they can choose us. How embarrassing for her that she has let herself become so bitter and may starve herself of love as a result. There's nt much you can control here aside from the points made already.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 07/05/2024 06:45

I'm also struggling to follow but I would definitely without a doubt get you dm to arrange an appointment with solicitor and to take an independent witness to this meeting as a matter of urgency.
Good luck

Allwelcone · 07/05/2024 06:45

Lifestooshort71 · 07/05/2024 06:44

What's a DHC???

Probably a typo of DGC.

Hibernating80 · 07/05/2024 06:45

Why do you need to inherit more than your grandchildren? I see your daughter's point. Perhaps you have manipulated your mum and your daughter is probably in greater need of the inheritance.

I'd be happy if my daughter's inherited more because they would need it more than us.

PBandJ111 · 07/05/2024 06:49

Does your dd work? If she was given up work and everything and just looks after your parents, I wonder if she feels that she should be getting a lot more. It sounds like she’s fucking up her life if she has given up work and she sounds like a entitled madam.

Springtime2024 · 07/05/2024 06:49

Has you daughter always had a strong sense of justice? Perhaps she just feels you have swayed your mum even though you feel you haven’t.

35965a · 07/05/2024 06:54

Why do people get so greedy about wills. Your DD2 is a grabby cow. Your DM can do what she wants with her money, she should be happy she’s included in the will at all.

user1492757084 · 07/05/2024 06:54

The only thing to do is to get everything out into the open.
Your DM needs to take DD2 to the solicitor(with a witness) to have question and answer time. At worst the solicitor will have it noted/evidence that DM was not coerced and that DD2 was clearly given factual details and was fully informed as to why DM made her Will changes.

You should tell your DD2 that you will be pushing for the meeting to happen ASAP and that you wish her a Happy Birthday and will take her out for a meal after the solicitor's meeting.
Then put it to rest. Get on with organising a great family wedding.

Encourage your DM to lodge the Will to the solicitors safe keeping.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 07/05/2024 06:55

Lookingatthesunset · 07/05/2024 00:14

Nonsense!

I disagree womansthinbrain

35965a · 07/05/2024 06:56

FangsForTheMemory · 07/05/2024 06:19

I wonder if your DD2 moved in with her grandmother in the expectation that she would inherit her house and is angry that she’s not going to.

in any case, she sounds poisonous.

I agree, I think this is exactly why she is upset

nothingsforgotten · 07/05/2024 06:58

Dollenganger333 · 07/05/2024 06:09

No, I am not confused;

Since a small child DD2 has always been unable to see anything from anyone else’s point of view, would argue about anything and never take no for an answer.

Clearly, the DD's behaviour at this point is unacceptable. But the above says a lot about this family dynamic as a whole. And I do believe that most of the time, parents are at least partially responsible for how a child turns out.

Oh what rubbish. It's convenient nonsense to excuse bad behaviour," it's not my fault, blame my parents."

atchoooo · 07/05/2024 07:00

Fireangels · 07/05/2024 00:30

My DM has said she’s so shocked about this, but relies on DD so much and wouldn’t be able to cope if she wasn’t there due to her poor mobility. DD loves her DGM so wouldn’t move out anyway.

You’re contradicting yourself here. In an earlier post you said all your daughter does is take in groceries, put the laundry on. But apparently your mum feels she wouldn’t be able to cope without your daughter there. So it seems you are understating what your daughter does to support your mum.

If your daughter is due to report you to the police, I genuinely cannot fathom why you have messaged her to say happy birthday. Your priorities are wrong. You’re obviously not in a normal mother-daughter relationship - your daughter suspects you of elder-abuse, has been gathering evidence on you, recording conversations and intends to report you to the authorities. Can you not see what potential risk there is to you, regardless of whether you think there is no case to answer to? You shouldn’t be concerned about her birthday, you should be speaking to a solicitor about how you navigate this. You’re not going to magically make up with your daughter with all this going away.