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So upset about my daughter

349 replies

Fireangels · 06/05/2024 23:32

Will try to be brief. But a bit of background. My DM who is in her 80s wanted to update her will. She wanted to include her 3 DCs and her 4 DHCs. My DF is still living but is very frail and has been bedridden for nearly 4 years. She asked my advice as of myself and siblings I do the most to provide care and support to my parents. Since my DFs illness, my adult DD2 decided to move in with my parents to also provide support to them.

Whenever my DM would ask advice about her will I always said it was completely up to her who she left what to, but to express this in terms of percentages rather than amounts as we don’t really know what her estate would be worth. I also arranged for the title deeds to be changed on the house she jointly owns with my DF in case she pre-deceased him in case as a result he has to go into residential care. (This means she can leave her half of the property independently so it does not pass to my DF where it could then be taken to pay care fees).

Once DM had made her decision about her beneficiaries I took her to a solicitor for the Will to be drafted.

When we got back, DM told my DD2 what she had decided. (She stands to inherit a fairly substantial sum). My DD2 who is and always has been very strong willed, was upset. I couldn’t understand why, as I feel that it is a massive privilege to be mentioned in a grandparent’s will.

She later told my DH (her DF) that my DM had told her that she and the other DGCs would be getting far more, and accused me of coercing my DM to leave them less so that my siblings and I would inherit more. She admitted to eavesdropping on conversations my DM had with me, and that she had kept a record of these for some months which she intended to present to the police to accuse me of financial abuse/coercion etc and have me prosecuted. I am absolutely devastated that she has done this. It seems she’s caught snippets of various conversations where I’ve tried to help my DM organise her thoughts (without influencing her), and concluded that I’ve convinced her to leave her and the other GCs less than she originally intended.

I am very close to my DM and discussed this with her. She says she may have mentioned the will to my DD2. But certainly did not make any promises, and said that she does not intend to leave the GCs as much as my DD2 seems to think, the detriment of her owns DCs (my siblings and I), and doesn’t know why she thinks this. Just to be clear, we’re not talking in terms of a huge amount for anyone, just a terraced house in the SE.

So my DD2 and I have not spoken for several weeks, to further complicate things. My older DD1 (who DD2 had always, since toddler-hood been jealous of) gets married in a few months and is devastated that we now have a family rift. Since a small child DD2 has always been unable to see anything from anyone else’s point of view, would argue about anything and never take no for an answer.

To make things even worse, today is DD2s birthday. For the first time ever. I haven’t sent her a card, taken her out, wished her happy birthday or sent her cash for her birthday. I’ve felt sick and tearful all day. But don’t feel I can speak to her atm until she approaches me to discuss. She had never in her life ever apologised to me about anything as she genuinely never accepts that she may be in the wrong about anything. But I just don’t feel I can let this go as I have done about other situations in the past.

Im sorry that this post is far longer than I thought it would be, but didn’t want to drip-feed, Thanks if you’ve read it all.

Please be kind 😢

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entiawest · 08/05/2024 14:06

I'm sorry OP, your daughter is selfish and grasping. I'm glad you're making some progress with the situation but honestly she is the one is the one in the wrong eavesdropping and recording private conversation wtaf? And then wanting more money after saving herself literally thousands living there

Fireangels · 08/05/2024 16:29

I had a long conversation on the phone last night with DD. We were both upset, but it seems that a lot of this was miscommunication and misunderstanding ( a lot of which were caused by DM - which she freely admits and is sorry about) DD finally apologised for her part in this, not just that I was upset, but the reason why I was upset.
Apparently she says she genuinely thought I had influenced DMs wishes, but now accepts this was not the case.
We sent each other hugs down the phone line, and, for those worried, I sent her some cash for her birthday- which she is putting towards a holiday.
Thank you all (well mostly all) for your support and understanding it is really appreciated. This is what mumsnet is all about.

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hannonle · 08/05/2024 16:34

Don't do percentages in a will. You end up having to liquidate everything and it's a huge PITA if you're the executor. An amount is so much easier, esp if you're leaving charity donations.

saraclara · 08/05/2024 16:58

I'm so glad that this is resolved and that your daughter recognises your hurt.

I can see that your mum's aim was probably to be transparent with everyone, but sometimes that can backfire. I'm genuinely glad that you and your daughter are back on course with your relationship.

ElBandito · 08/05/2024 17:51

hannonle · 08/05/2024 16:34

Don't do percentages in a will. You end up having to liquidate everything and it's a huge PITA if you're the executor. An amount is so much easier, esp if you're leaving charity donations.

We were specifically advised to do percentages. If you leave £500 to each of 2 grandchildren and the remainder of the estate to your child then if the final estate years later is £1000 your child gets nothing, which is probably not what you intended.

beanii · 08/05/2024 18:05

What a greedy/grabby daughter you have.

I would tell your mother to spend the lot - they worked hard for it and family shouldn't rely on handouts.

Bookkeepermum · 08/05/2024 18:25

This sounds like an awful situation but please, post a card through her door. You will regret it and she may not forgive you for it.
I don't have the best relationship with my mother but it would absolutely break my heart if I didn't receive a birthday card on the day, no matter how angry we were with each other. And I would never not post a card to her.

Calliecarpa · 08/05/2024 18:30

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ThisZanyPinkSquid · 08/05/2024 18:34

Daughter sounds like the one who is trying to financially coerce with the threat of going to the police. I would be devastated too 😢 how did the call on her birthday go?

graceinspace999 · 08/05/2024 18:40

Stompythedinosaur · 06/05/2024 23:43

I don't understand why you wouldn't mark your child's birthday, even if you have had a fight. I think that's really hurtful.

Her daughter is threatening her with the police!

With behaviour comes consequences.

HospitalStayNHS · 08/05/2024 18:46

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Manthide · 08/05/2024 18:54

My parents in their wisdom ( in their 80s) do not have a Will. They own a modest property worth about £500,000 and they had 2 dc. I'm not sure why they think an intestacy is best but I'm assuming the split would be the same ie equally between their 2 dc. My sibling died a few weeks ago, unmarried and with no dc. He has a very small estate which given the rush we decided it would be best if he left to our parents. I have 4 dc and 2 gc.
If they don't leave a Will and I survive them I assume their estate will come to me.
My parents have never mentioned gc and as far as I can gather they feel their responsibility is to their dc. I can't imagine how they'd feel if one of my dd started complaining about their inheritance!

Calliecarpa · 08/05/2024 19:00

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You're the second person in the last half an hour who hasn't bothered to read the OP's update a couple of hours ago which clarifies that she did not, in fact, 'ignore' her daughter's birthday, and gave her daughter money. But at least you got to make this sneeringly judgemental comment, ey? Every cloud and all that.

HospitalStayNHS · 08/05/2024 19:02

Calliecarpa · 08/05/2024 19:00

You're the second person in the last half an hour who hasn't bothered to read the OP's update a couple of hours ago which clarifies that she did not, in fact, 'ignore' her daughter's birthday, and gave her daughter money. But at least you got to make this sneeringly judgemental comment, ey? Every cloud and all that.

Thanks for your sneering comment. She gifted her birthday as felt under pressure by her other daughter. Dreadful behaviour.

Calliecarpa · 08/05/2024 19:04

HospitalStayNHS · 08/05/2024 19:02

Thanks for your sneering comment. She gifted her birthday as felt under pressure by her other daughter. Dreadful behaviour.

So you're admitting that you were wrong, and that what you claimed as a 'fact' was not. Well done!

HospitalStayNHS · 08/05/2024 19:55

Calliecarpa · 08/05/2024 19:04

So you're admitting that you were wrong, and that what you claimed as a 'fact' was not. Well done!

I don’t need to answer to you. OP didn’t willingly and independently send her own daughter a birthday gift. She was under pressure and drip fed.

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 20:29

HospitalStayNHS · 08/05/2024 19:55

I don’t need to answer to you. OP didn’t willingly and independently send her own daughter a birthday gift. She was under pressure and drip fed.

The OP doesn't have to answer to you either.

Gagaandgag · 08/05/2024 21:11

Dweetfidilove · 07/05/2024 00:15

I wouldn’t be surprised if she moved in with an intention of securing/ boosting her inheritance. She sounds awfully greedy and wicked. I understand you’re upset, OP. In fact I’d be considering whether I leave her anything from my own estate- shocking behaviour ☹️.

I did wonder this too

Spaniellover2 · 08/05/2024 23:22

Stompythedinosaur · 06/05/2024 23:43

I don't understand why you wouldn't mark your child's birthday, even if you have had a fight. I think that's really hurtful.

Her daughter has threatened her mum with the police ! She is also an adult - not a small child.

Bookkeepermum · 09/05/2024 08:06

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No I didn't "bother" to read the updates as I hade limited time on my work break. The poster was looking for people options and I gave mine. Your reply to my post is not exactly helpful for the poster or myself. Why feel the need to reply with a nasty comment? Why reply at all? Just keep on scrolling instead of trying to put someone down. Or does that make you feel better? I won't "bother" reading your reply to this. I hope your day is as lovely as you are :)

entiawest · 09/05/2024 08:18

@Gagaandgag agree

1989whome · 09/05/2024 09:49

That child is basically threatening her mother with snippets of recordings which will inevitably cause issues when they lady in question passes away. And she should get a card? Ummm no! You don't get to be a spoilt brat, threaten your parents and still get treated with love and respect. Daughter sounds awfully entitled!

Fairyliz · 09/05/2024 12:35

Rubyrubyrubyrubee · 07/05/2024 23:14

OP don't feel you have to explain. What your DM has done is a smart move.

Why the fuck SHOULDN'T you try and avoid care costs?! It's called inheritance planning, some pps might want to twist themselves in knots explaining why they, Saints of MN, would give up their entire estate to the state but anyone with an ounce of common sense would severe the joint tenanacy to protect each share. It's reguarly advised by solicitors and is prudent financial advice. It certainly is not deprivation of assets.

So you would be happy with your elderly parent who has loved and cared for you your whole life, to be stuck in some shitty care home by the council, so you can inherit some money? Nice!
When fil died the house was sold and now funds mil in a beautiful care home. It means that there won’t be any inheritance for DH and his sibling but we would rather she had a lovely place to live in her final years.
Is it really okay for DH to inherit money he hasn’t worked for and allow taxpayers to fund her care?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 09/05/2024 13:26

Well done for both talking it out and putting things on better terms now OP.

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