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12 year old wants to go to wedding where sister hasn't been invited

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Stuckinthemiddlewithnoone · 06/05/2024 16:39

Essentially we have declined an invitation to husband’s nephew’s wedding in the summer as he has not invited my 15 year old daughter (16 by the time of the wedding) from a long ago relationship. We simply declined without saying why.

Sister-in-Law asked if we were on holiday etc. so I told her the truth. She seemed very embarrassed as did mother-in-law. We were told that she would ask, well that was a month ago and we haven’t heard anything. Husband all along said he wouldn’t go anyway even if they changed their mind.

Now here is the AIBU! 12 year old wants to go. She has completely lost it saying that she has a right to make her own mind up and that elder sister isn’t related to cousin.

I have lost it back at her saying she needs to support her sister.

However, husband thinks we should let her go and we shouldn’t put her in the middle of this.

So, what would you lot do?

OP posts:
Stripeysocks1981 · 06/05/2024 19:29

OhmygodDont · 06/05/2024 19:28

But if she did have a participating father would the mother demand her 12 year old also go or would that then be fair.

Total straw man argument.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 06/05/2024 19:32

Stuckinthemiddlewithnoone · 06/05/2024 19:24

There are literally tens of family members to 'supervise' my 12 year old, that isn't the issue.

I don't want her to go and more importantly I want her to not want to go. Does that make sense?

It makes complete sense. It's such a shame this has happened.

EC22 · 06/05/2024 19:33

My 12 year old wouldn’t have the option to go without me and my family. It’s an adult decision to make.

Cacaoaddict · 06/05/2024 19:35

She is 12 years old. She doesn’t understand you have made a decision as a family. You you have decided to support your other daughter so tough.

She is probably enjoying the drama and the thrill of her sister not being invited. She will know one of you will have to take her - which will mostly be her dad.

She is 12 she will not understand family loyalty or the line she is creating in between your family.

Thos would absolutely be a hard No from me.

By the way I have three girls - eldest nearly 28 - they can be little witches and artful in phycological warfare to each other

Velvian · 06/05/2024 19:35

YANBU at all@Stuckinthemiddlewithnoone. Appalling behaviour to invite 1 sister and not the other. Your DD has been in the family since she was 2, that is so sad, she has been tge groom's cousin longer than his biological cousin.

Has someone in the family put the idea in DD2's head about going on her own?

Giraffesandbottoms · 06/05/2024 19:35

bottomsup12 · 06/05/2024 19:26

Excellent point about the 12 yo not being invited to the 15 yo dads side of the family things!

It’s not an excellent point, because the 12 year old hasn’t lived with the 15 year old’s dad since she was an infant!

AGoingConcern · 06/05/2024 19:38

Calmly and neutrally explain why you and your DH have chosen not to go, encourage your older DD to voice her feelings, and then let your 12 year old make her own decision without giving her grief about it. It's not reasonable or fair for you to place your older DD's feelings above the younger's or to put a wedge between younger DD and her extended family over this.

If it wasn't straightforward for her to go without you my answer would be different, but you've made it clear that's not a factor.

Delphinium20 · 06/05/2024 19:40

I would be livid with your DH's family as well. What awful people. I think you should really explain this feeling to your 12-yr-old. Tell her how awful it is that you, who is also not a blood relation, is invited but her sister is not. Keep up the, "we are a family and your sister had been treated terribly. When you are treated badly, I would insist we all have your back." 12 yr olds need to be modeled empathy and family loyalty. Your DD2 just needs to learn. If you allow her to go, it's showing her that her parents won't be strong enough to protect their DDs when they've been wronged.

I'm also wondering why MIL and BIL haven't been more appalled at what happened. Nephew is either dense or cruel.

Giraffesandbottoms · 06/05/2024 19:40

12 year old saying the cousin is her cousin and not her sister’s is so horrible (sounds pretty standard teenage horrible but even so).

I wonder if the cousin is unable to have a biological baby and has to adopt, if that baby would count as “family” here? Your husband took your daughter on as his daughter before your youngest was even alive. This is all so shitty.

Greywitch2 · 06/05/2024 19:40

No. You've declined the invitation.

Your 12 yo doesn't get to decide she's accepting it. She doesn't have 'the right to make up her own mind'. She sounds a brat to be honest.

Attending weddings is an expense. Unless she's buying her own outfit, funding her own travel costs and coughing up for a present along the lines of £50 or so, she's not going.

Glipsy · 06/05/2024 19:40

I’m totally with you about wanting her to not want to go. You want better from her!

I think I agree that you should let her choose. It sounds like you’ve explained your feelings on it to her, and I also think that once she chooses, it’s important the topic be dropped - no drama, and no blow by blow when she gets back, but also no bad feelings towards her from the rest of you if she does choose to go, no further debate. I’d also let her know that if she does choose to go, she can change her mind, no questions asked.

it’s a good little life lesson for the 12 year old - she won’t see that now but I think she will later, and more so if she gets the choice. I think the most important thing for your fifteen year old is that her parents are standing up for her.

good luck

wp65 · 06/05/2024 19:40

YANBU. I think some posters are overlooking the fact that your older daughter has been part of this 'blended family' since she was a toddler - it's all she knows. It seems incredibly crass and insensitive for the groom to exclude her like this. (Presumably he's actually known her longer than he's known your younger daughter!)

ladybirdsanchez · 06/05/2024 19:40

I wouldn't go either OP and 12-year-old would have to suck it up. Your DH's DB is a massive dick for not inviting your DD. Why on Earth would he think it was okay to exclude her from a huge family event? Can you just go away for the weekend so it's a non-issue with your younger DD and she couldn't go anyway because you're going to Centre Parcs or the Lake District or whatever?

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 06/05/2024 19:41

it sounds like other cousins are also going so the 12 year old is being alienated from them purely due to the existence of her sister. That will cause resentment if she is simply told no. What if the same happens at all cousins weddings, will she not be allowed to any.

Pin0cchio · 06/05/2024 19:41

But its not your elder daughter's cousin?

I don't know anyone who invited step cousins to wedding. I'm not invited to my actual full blood cousin's wedding. It's a small do, my mum is going but my siblings and I aren't (there's a few of us including spouses so i totally get it).

I've a few cousins and I think I've only been to one of them's wedding.

wp65 · 06/05/2024 19:42

Also I think you are right not to allow your 12 year old to go. Part of being a parent is teaching your kid morals, and making moral decisions on their behalf when necessary. Don't let her do a shitty thing to her sister.

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 06/05/2024 19:42

OhmygodDont · 06/05/2024 19:28

But if she did have a participating father would the mother demand her 12 year old also go or would that then be fair.

That would be fair because the older daughter’s father is not the youngest daughter’s step-father. It’s completely different.

wp65 · 06/05/2024 19:43

Pin0cchio · 06/05/2024 19:41

But its not your elder daughter's cousin?

I don't know anyone who invited step cousins to wedding. I'm not invited to my actual full blood cousin's wedding. It's a small do, my mum is going but my siblings and I aren't (there's a few of us including spouses so i totally get it).

I've a few cousins and I think I've only been to one of them's wedding.

Well then, he could easily have not invited younger cousin in that case, rather than invited her and excluded her sister who had been in his family since she was two!

Pretz123 · 06/05/2024 19:43

FWIW I think you are doing the right thing by not going - well done your husband for standing up for your daughter.

Cacaoaddict · 06/05/2024 19:44

AGoingConcern · 06/05/2024 19:38

Calmly and neutrally explain why you and your DH have chosen not to go, encourage your older DD to voice her feelings, and then let your 12 year old make her own decision without giving her grief about it. It's not reasonable or fair for you to place your older DD's feelings above the younger's or to put a wedge between younger DD and her extended family over this.

If it wasn't straightforward for her to go without you my answer would be different, but you've made it clear that's not a factor.

She is 12 - she doesn’t understand the wider implications. She doesn’t get to be a lone wolf either when the family have made a decision - she is 12

If it was the other way round I’m sure she would be crying her eyes out wondering why they don’t want her there and wanting her family to support her.

The nephew is an arse hole.

welshycake · 06/05/2024 19:44

Stuckinthemiddlewithnoone · 06/05/2024 19:22

My daughters are half-sisters, not step-sisters, I am the mother of both of them.

I have not posted about this invitation before, I have never posted on mumsnet before. I genuinely wanted to know if I was unreasonable but there are mixed responses. I still don't know what to do.

My younger daughter is a good girl and both my girls while different personalities don't have any spats or anything, they get on.

My 12 year old doesn't understand why I am so upset, she just accepts that the groom isn't related to her sister, she was sarcastic and asked me whether he should also invite all of her other relations on my side.

In all of our discussions about this I have asked all the questions that people have. Yes she would be agree with us if the groom had left out a family member who was also related to them.

She totally gets that people are envious of other people but she doesn't see why she should miss out on something on her side of her family because her sister is upset. She keeps stressing that her cousin is not her sister's cousin.

I have never heard her even speak about this cousin but she insists she likes him and wants to hang out with her other cousins.

I have actually not spoken with my eldest daughter as she is genuinely upset about being excluded, I don't know if she expects her sister not to go. I would suspect she would encourage her to go even if she doesn't mean it.

I know DH blaming BiL isn't right but he does, he thinks he should have put his foot down with a 30 year old man and this man's new inlaws! I know!
Still don't know how I am going to deal with this.

My mother-in-law hasn't come up this week and I think is avoiding me but has said to DH that she is upset but isn't saying anything to groom

I can see her point. You're stopping her getting to know her family. It's not her fault they don't see her half sister as their family.

AGoingConcern · 06/05/2024 19:44

Greywitch2 · 06/05/2024 19:40

No. You've declined the invitation.

Your 12 yo doesn't get to decide she's accepting it. She doesn't have 'the right to make up her own mind'. She sounds a brat to be honest.

Attending weddings is an expense. Unless she's buying her own outfit, funding her own travel costs and coughing up for a present along the lines of £50 or so, she's not going.

Oh for the love of... no one is going to expect a 12 year old to bring a gift of her own or buy a special outfit and OP has said clearly that there are plenty of relatives to take her.

If OP has decided that her and older DD's feelings take priority that's one thing, but we don't need to invent practical justifications for the child not going.

snoopyfanaccountant · 06/05/2024 19:45

OP, I get that it feels sh1t for you as a family, but you are seeing it from the perspective of your household rather than the bigger picture of the full guest list.
Your daughter might not be being not invited as an individual but rather as part of a category of people. Perhaps the bride has many stepcousins (my DDs refer to my DSSis's 6 year old DD as their chaotic bundle of fun stepcousin so it is a used word) and inviting them would severely restrict the number of close friends who could be invited.

diddl · 06/05/2024 19:45

Although your husband has taken on your daughter as his own I suppose you can't expect all others to see her like that.

Ultimately though as a family you have said no to the invitation & that's that I would have thought.

Your youngest was invited as part of the family & not in her own right.

wp65 · 06/05/2024 19:45

Giraffesandbottoms · 06/05/2024 19:40

12 year old saying the cousin is her cousin and not her sister’s is so horrible (sounds pretty standard teenage horrible but even so).

I wonder if the cousin is unable to have a biological baby and has to adopt, if that baby would count as “family” here? Your husband took your daughter on as his daughter before your youngest was even alive. This is all so shitty.

This is well put.

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