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AIBU for thinking that Sadiq Khan has won the London Mayoral Election?

221 replies

Westfacing · 04/05/2024 13:49

For some strange reason it was put about yesterday that Susan Hall might have won, or that it was very close.

Wishful thinking on someone's part!

OP posts:
Janjk · 04/05/2024 16:23

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 04/05/2024 16:22

It's a victory for Londoners!

Cleaner air
Less respiratory paediatric deaths
Free school meals for kids
Free public transport for kids
Decent man with personal integrity unlike every Tory

I feel sorry for people who don't get to benefit from Khan's policies tbh

This made me laugh out loud. Not all of us Londoners think like this.

KateMiskin · 04/05/2024 16:25

Janjk · 04/05/2024 16:23

This made me laugh out loud. Not all of us Londoners think like this.

Obviously. But most of those of us who voted think like this.

murasaki · 04/05/2024 16:25

@Janjk , why do you think it's a bad result? Genuinely interested to hear another point of view.

BobbyBiscuits · 04/05/2024 16:25

Tories have Bexley and Bromley. I think that's it so far. So yeah, labour mayor. 😁 I'm really pleased actually, I was worried all the anti Ulez lot would kick him out. I guess most of the inner boroughs don't have as many drivers, so they'll stick with him. Mines not been called yet but it's almost certainly him as this is a very heavy labour borough.

HappiestSleeping · 04/05/2024 16:28

SpeedwellBlue · 04/05/2024 15:36

It deters people from using more polluting vehicles, a good thing.

Sort of. It forces people to change vehicles that would otherwise have been usable for many more years, at great expense to the owners, adding to abandoned and scrapped vehicles thereby doing more damage to the environment overall.

If I was certain that the money raised would go towards improved public transport, it would be some consolation, however I am not. The buses are a great example. Electric buses, but no infrastructure to charge them, so they need diesel generators to be run overnight. That is hardly good for air quality.

pinkteddy · 04/05/2024 16:29

@BobbyBiscuits i think they’ve all been called now.

BobbyBiscuits · 04/05/2024 16:30

@pinkteddy ah, thanks. Too busy on MN to notice, lol!

Needmorelego · 04/05/2024 16:32

Slightly irrelevant but....
I don't understand why there has been so much focus on ULEZ when it's Low Traffic Neighbourhoods and School Street schemes that seem to be causing the most traffic chaos and traffic pollution.

MysticCatLady · 04/05/2024 16:34

Thank goodness that racist lunatic didn't win, I was worried last night when they were saying it looked like a close result. She sounds nuts.

HappiestSleeping · 04/05/2024 16:35

Needmorelego · 04/05/2024 16:32

Slightly irrelevant but....
I don't understand why there has been so much focus on ULEZ when it's Low Traffic Neighbourhoods and School Street schemes that seem to be causing the most traffic chaos and traffic pollution.

ULEZ is nothing to do with air quality after the initial zone. It is just another car tax. It's the smoke and mirrors I can't stand. I'd rather he just said "I'm going to tax car drivers more", at least that would have been honest.

Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky · 04/05/2024 16:36

@Needmorelego

Because in my outer borough (which didn't vote for him - he only got 32%) ulez has caused issues.

There isn't the public transport infrastructure across the whole borough that can support getting rid of a car. It's ok if you are going into London but going outwards into the next (Surrey cc) borough is a nightmare.

Plenty of people cross into the zone to work - the hospital is twinned with one outside ulez!

SpeedwellBlue · 04/05/2024 16:37

HappiestSleeping · 04/05/2024 16:35

ULEZ is nothing to do with air quality after the initial zone. It is just another car tax. It's the smoke and mirrors I can't stand. I'd rather he just said "I'm going to tax car drivers more", at least that would have been honest.

It only taxes people with the most polluting cars.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 04/05/2024 16:39

It is good to see that the anti-net zero approach didn't work. The Tories are taking us backwards on climate issues, this should make them think about whether there is any electoral benefit to that strategy.

TheCadoganArms · 04/05/2024 16:48

Needmorelego · 04/05/2024 16:32

Slightly irrelevant but....
I don't understand why there has been so much focus on ULEZ when it's Low Traffic Neighbourhoods and School Street schemes that seem to be causing the most traffic chaos and traffic pollution.

I live a few streets inside the newly imposed ulez zone and it has not been popular. While people agree with the general move towards cleaner vehicles there is a lot of criticism of the heavy handed way it has been rolled out, the punitive cost of the charge and the fact that many valid concerns were completely ignored. Euro 5 cars that were only several years old and marginally more polluting then compliant euro 6 cars were devalued overnight and once full environmental life cycle costing were taking into account established that banning such vehicles was not a very green decision at all. Khan has been very slippery with his use of statistics that underpin the policy and there is a general distrust that he will move to a price per mile charge system which given the sheer volume of cameras installed is feasible. The first ulez was more readily accepted as central London has excellent public transport links and low car ownership, the opposite is true in the outer suburbs. Plenty of small business, local tradesman and the like have been hit hard and the scrappage scheme was a con. The 'just buy a compliant car' crowd from my experience have not got a clue about how low income people survive.

LBFseBrom · 04/05/2024 16:50

There have been some excellent schemes in place for people to get a new or newer car, trading in their old one. Many have taken advantage of it, pleased to have a better vehicle which they could not previously afford.

Schemes similar to ULEZ have been in operation in other parts of the country. Unfortunately, many have fixated on this and hoped Khan would not be re-elected.

The other thing is they want more police presence on the streets of London. I have to say, as a Londoner, I have never in my life lived anywhere in London with a big police presence but of course I know there are high crime areas, with violence. It is a difficult one because the money comes from central government, I don't know what Sadiq Khan can do except try to manage his police allowance differently and, obviously, petition for more.

I am relieved he has been re-elected.

TheCadoganArms · 04/05/2024 16:54

SpeedwellBlue · 04/05/2024 16:37

It only taxes people with the most polluting cars.

The narrative was that it was getting rid of child killing smoke belching old bangers when the reality was that perfectly good well-maintained euro 5 vehicles that have emissions that are only fractionally more polluting then compliant euro 6 cars were forced off the road at considerable inconvenience and cost to owners. It was a tax grab. They could have banned newly registered euro 5 cars and just let the existing ones retire themselves off the road over the coming years but no.

newnamethanks · 04/05/2024 16:55

Saved from Ms Hall, thank the Almighty. The Tories tried everything to diss Sadiq and he's still streets ahead of anything they've got to offer. We'll done SK.

Boomer55 · 04/05/2024 16:56

He’s bloody useless, but, countrywide, there was an anti-Tory vote, so I’m not surprised.🙄

BIWI · 04/05/2024 17:00

Why do you think he's useless? I think he's done some great stuff. What do you dislike?

TheCadoganArms · 04/05/2024 17:01

For some bizarre reason ever since Boris ceased to be mayor the Tories have not bothered to put forward a credible candidate. So given the choice of some complete non entities and lunatics or sticking with an underwhelming and lacklustre Khan who is at least a known quantity he was always going to get in again. Voter turn out numbers will be interesting.

ThreeFeetTall · 04/05/2024 17:02

Why would someone abandon or scrap a non ulez car when they could sell it to someone outside London?

murasaki · 04/05/2024 17:04

TheCadoganArms · 04/05/2024 17:01

For some bizarre reason ever since Boris ceased to be mayor the Tories have not bothered to put forward a credible candidate. So given the choice of some complete non entities and lunatics or sticking with an underwhelming and lacklustre Khan who is at least a known quantity he was always going to get in again. Voter turn out numbers will be interesting.

Voters turn out is already available. The highest was Bexley and Bromley on about 48 percent, clearly a ulez vote. The rest were mostly early 40s.

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 04/05/2024 17:04

Boomer55 · 04/05/2024 16:56

He’s bloody useless, but, countrywide, there was an anti-Tory vote, so I’m not surprised.🙄

Why is he useless? And yes of course there’s a nation wide anti-Tory vote! What sane person would vote Tory now?!?

Allfur · 04/05/2024 17:05

Needmorelego · 04/05/2024 16:32

Slightly irrelevant but....
I don't understand why there has been so much focus on ULEZ when it's Low Traffic Neighbourhoods and School Street schemes that seem to be causing the most traffic chaos and traffic pollution.

Traffic causes traffic pollution and chaos

652needtogetup · 04/05/2024 17:05

I’m glad he’s won and did vote for him but is there a reason that the Tories only ever put woefully bad opponents up against Sadiq Khan?