To ask what the tories have ever done for us…

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To compliment the thread about labour and give a bit of balance, let’s discuss the legacy of 14 years Conservative government. Never voted for them myself and although we now have 2 out of 3 Tory MPs up here because of the Brexit effect I haven’t seen any great improvement in our town. In fact if anything it’s pretty much gone to the dogs. So good and bad, what have they achieved ?

I don’t hold the Tory party accountable for brexit either. That was the stupid electorate.

at the time, the pm, Cameron clearly advised all of us to vote remain. He had been forced by members of his own party to hold the referendum. And Corbyn didn’t do anything. He could have stood with Cameron and advised us to vote remain. He didn’t.

so both parties are equally accountable for this. As well as the very stupid electorate.

The people responsible for Brexit are the voters.

Oh yes, he pleaded alright. After he called the referendum in the first place to try to claw back some former Tory voters who had crossed over to UKIP. Cameron was arrogant enough to think it wouldn't have consequences but he completely lost control of the situation then fled the scene like a coward when Leave won and it blew up on his face. Not to mention that Tory foreign policy under May, then Patel and even worse Braverman has been stoking the flames of division for years and legitimising far right views. Remember the buses with "go home" emblazoned on them? The tories are very much to blame for creating the conditions that allowed Brexit to happen.

Exactly

The same stupid electorate that put the Tories in power and kept them in power for the last 14 years?

@youngones1 Labour’s reluctance to speak about Brexit is entirely due to the fact that much of the ‘red wall’ misguidedly blamed the EU for problems actually caused by austerity, encouraged by cynical journos like Johnson. If the Labour Party starts demanding that we rejoin, Starmer is well aware he’ll be accused of thwarting the ‘will of the people’. Anyone with a bit of political nous knows that. The tory remainers (if there were any) backed themselves into a corner. They could hardly blame their own policies for the mess the UK was in could they ?

Following the Brexit fiasco, I do wonder if the electorate should be allowed to vote at all. Maybe there should be a requirement for the poor things to pass a simple IQ test.

Seriously screwed up the support system for children with SEN and disabilities, to say nothing of the care system as a whole. Oh yes, and achieved dreadful child poverty figures.

Remember that promise about people not having to pay care home fees? I wonder what happened to that?

Exactly. Plus he learned nothing from the fact that he only just scraped through on the Scottish independence referendum.

Dragged the standard of behaviour in public office to a new low.

Where will the money come from, we already have the highest taxes since WW2

Starmer also partied during Covid.

What they're really good at - transferring public money into private hands.

Four main pillars where it went wrong - Austerity when we should have been investing/promoting growth, Brexit - the amount of political/media oxygen it consumed at the expense of everything else, Covid - £400B to keep the country going through lockdown was devastating. Energy crisis from the war - further £50B borrowing to support the polulation.

Social polarisation and division and inequality on a Victorian scale, child poverty, demonisation of the poor, elderly, infirm and non-Caucasian (don't be fooled by tokenistic wealthy Cabinet ministers), the near-destruction of the NHS, social welfare net, and state education, and along the way making their already sickeningly wealthy mates even richer.

And that's without even mentioning that 2016 referendum which is largely to blame for current shortages in medicine, ever falling food security, and the removal of our right to work and study in one of the most successful trading blocs ever.

Oh and a prime minister whose budget doubled all our mortgages because her IQ was lower than that of the lettuce that outlasted her.

The roof at Stepping Hill hospital in Stockport finally falling in on top of patients in a critical care ward is a bloody good metaphor for these soulless over privileged incompetent b*stards.

Of course what will happen now is that anyone who ever voted for the Tories and isn't yet dead will slither back under their rocks for a bit until they slither back out again at the next general election.

In the interim it'll be like the millions of people who mysteriously now can't remember voting leave.

Er, you what now?🤯

UKIP and the Lib-Dems are easily confused 😁

Pandered to racism and xenophobia

Driven dedicated professionals out of the NHS

Made life for people with disabilities more difficult, presumably on the basis that they weren't suffering enough

Taken away the opportunity we all had to live and work in any of 27 different European countries

Made corruption and incompetence the norm rather than the exception

@youngones1 what you should be asking is where has the money gone. Fifth richest country yet no money. It’s like schroedingers cat. There for Tory bribery, not there for potential labour policies, weird that.

I do.

While Cameron urged us to Remain, Johnson and the other swivel eyed loons in the Conservative Party urged Leave. The party acted out their own psychodrama on the whole country and wrecked the UK.

Typical Tories talking out of both sides of their face while thinking "Heads we win, Tails the country loses".

A stagnant economy
Food banks a growth industry
Sense of social division increased
Racism being useful policy
Deciding legal obligations are just a minor international inconvenience

I give it twenty years to try and fix it. Our children will be handling this mess for us too.

Where's it gone? Friends and family.

Er, no, he didn't. And I'm pretty sure he never watched porn in the Chamber or went AWOL to appear on a reality TV show.

Dead rivers, forced deportation of people claiming asylum and a really depressing sense that we all hate each other.