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Who pays first date

327 replies

Honeybu · 03/05/2024 19:20

Ok I just been for a first date coffee.

been chatting with the guy online and he asks to meet up for a coffee so I agree and went on the date. He then proceeded to make his order ( latte and sandwich) cost £8 at the counter and paid for his bill without asking what I wanted. I then ordered mine and paid (latte and sandwich) cost £8 and paid . I got sandwich as wouldn’t want to sit and watch him eat feel awkward.

I felt he should’ve paid given that he asks me out. If I ask a friend or any new male/female friend I’m getting to know I would pay as I ask them to come for drink.

offcourse once we progress I would be paying and contributing.

Please what is your opinion on first date who should pay?

This post is not about judgement on me but your opinion and experience to share. Thanks

OP posts:
Angeldelight50 · 03/05/2024 22:12

gannett · 03/05/2024 21:40

This plays into the exact same gender cliches I wanted to avoid.

I don't have a particularly long make-up routine for going out and in any case I didn't take any longer on it for a date than I would going clubbing with my mates. Spent more time faffing around looking for my keys in those days.

I did expect men to look presentable on their dates but more so I wanted them to be physically fit, in other words to have spent time exercising. Probably more time than I spent doing my make-up. You could argue they'd have gone to the gym anyway but I'd have done my token make-up routine anyway too.

But mostly my point is why could I not be the one to impress them by slapping down my card to pay for them? Why, when you think of a man and a woman trying to impress each other, do you automatically think he's doing it by paying and she's doing it by looking sexy?

I do absolutely see your point and the cliche. I suppose my point is that the beauty standard for women will always be higher than it is for men. It’s not about impressing with my sexy looks (hold the laughter) it’s about the extra time spent to look ‘presentable’. No matter how short your hair/make up routine, it’s extra work men don’t consider.

ISWYM re paying the bill. A man will make this gesture to impress but if a woman made the same gesture it likely would not be well received. Playing into the stereotype women need to be taken care of.

Nottodayplease36 · 03/05/2024 22:17

Upinthenightagain · 03/05/2024 21:52

When I was dating I never, ever offered to pay. Men always paid. Sometimes I didn’t even see the bill. Also went on lots of first dates from OLD and pretty much always got asked out again. Men really are not fretting over the bill if they like the look of you.

This is my experience too. I went on a date recently, he invited me to a very fancy restaurant, it wasn’t my choice of food and I definitely wouldn’t have chosen to go there. The bill came to over £500 (I only know this because I looked when he went to the toilet, after he had paid) last date I went on, nice restaurant I offered to pay half and the guy started laughing and said no way. Men like to pay.

Noseybookworm · 03/05/2024 22:19

I would expect to go 50/50 on a first date. Can't see any reason why you would expect him to pay? Just because he was the one who suggested meeting up?

StealthIguana · 03/05/2024 22:20

Hugosmaid · 03/05/2024 22:10

It was a fucking coffee 🙄

There have been quite a few other posts, I was referring to the overall point, of who should pay on a first date.
Many posters have said the man, simply for being a man. It's odd that a woman expecting to be paid for is fine, yet a man not paying for both is tight. I was agreeing with the pp that it is confusing that many of us want equality, yet still expect to be paid for because we're female.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 03/05/2024 22:22

It's common to split the bill 50/50 or each pay for yourself on a first date.
Also, you didn't have to buy a sandwich just because he did.

Unicornhunter2 · 03/05/2024 22:29

I wouldnt agree to a coffee date, sounds like a tight arse.

trainboundfornowhere · 03/05/2024 22:29

I met DH in 2016 and we split things on our dates. I would never have expected him to pay for everything.

K37529 · 03/05/2024 22:29

I would expect him to offer to pay for the first date, it’s just polite and him not offering would be a turn off for me.

randomfemthinker · 03/05/2024 22:30

YANBU. He asked you out and it was a coffee, not a full course dinner and either way, even then he should cover. My goodness women these days really try hard to "show feminism" overall yet don't realise they're being short changed. A tight man over not paying for a coffee the first time you meet over the BEST he is showing you over who he is will simply NOT provide for their family years into things. It's a massive ick and people who choose this will take the load and be the every day Mumsnet poster years in over how to deal with the cocklodger or man who won't "help towards family life. Get shut of.

Hereyoume · 03/05/2024 22:30

Dollenganger333 · 03/05/2024 19:38

Before everyone starts shrieking about women only wanting equality when it suits them, let's be honest - there is no equality for women at the moment.

So the man can pay for the first coffee. If he doesn't, there won't be a second date as far as I'm concerned. And if he's going on hundreds of dates and I didn't stand out to him enough for him to bother to act like he cares then that weeds out the wrong one for me, too.

I think you'll find the is plenty of equality.

What can't we do?

AbFabDaaaaahling · 03/05/2024 22:32

@Nottodayplease36 Laughed when you offered?!! Misogynist right there.

DameKatyDenisesClagnuts · 03/05/2024 22:34

Def pay for yourself on the first few dates. I'd find anything else infantilising. Also, you only bought a sandwich because you were embarrassed to watch him eating. That's not his problem- and without it would presumably have been less than half the cost

AbFabDaaaaahling · 03/05/2024 22:35

@Hereyoume There will be even less equality if women, in 2024, are still expecting a man to pay for them!

AbFabDaaaaahling · 03/05/2024 22:36

@randomfemthinker What do you mean "provide for his family"? Can the woman not provide too?

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/05/2024 22:39

randomfemthinker · 03/05/2024 22:30

YANBU. He asked you out and it was a coffee, not a full course dinner and either way, even then he should cover. My goodness women these days really try hard to "show feminism" overall yet don't realise they're being short changed. A tight man over not paying for a coffee the first time you meet over the BEST he is showing you over who he is will simply NOT provide for their family years into things. It's a massive ick and people who choose this will take the load and be the every day Mumsnet poster years in over how to deal with the cocklodger or man who won't "help towards family life. Get shut of.

Not all of us want a man to 'provide' for us.

I have my own career and don't need or want a man to provide for me.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/05/2024 22:40

OldTinHat · 03/05/2024 19:31

Absolutely go halves or pay for your own order.

Why should a stranger pay for your food? And why would you want them to??

Because he invited her and also he got to the till first

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/05/2024 22:42

PersephonePomegranate23 · 03/05/2024 19:38

I’d stand a colleague lunch, it’s a nice thing to do.

Good for you and incidentally, so would I- who said anything about a colleague though? This is someone the OP has been speaking to online. In other words, a complete stranger.

A stranger who invited her out, she has got all dressed up for, and presumably wants to impress her

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/05/2024 22:43

Even when I was a teenager a boy asked me out to Burger King and he got my Coke and fries for me (I did offer to pay) as he knew that's what you do when you ask someone on a date. This is a grown adult man and he doesn't act as gentlemanly as a teen in the early 2000s did?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/05/2024 22:45

I've always done rounds in bars on first dates. I just cannot imagine ordering a drink and then letting the other person order a drink. A coffee and sandwich would cost about the same as a large wine so what's the difference here?

DameKatyDenisesClagnuts · 03/05/2024 22:50

AbFabDaaaaahling · 03/05/2024 22:32

@Nottodayplease36 Laughed when you offered?!! Misogynist right there.

That's exactly what I thought. What a prick

echt · 03/05/2024 22:51

Each pays their own way. Why should a man pick up the tab - there might not be a second date.

DameKatyDenisesClagnuts · 03/05/2024 22:52

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/05/2024 22:43

Even when I was a teenager a boy asked me out to Burger King and he got my Coke and fries for me (I did offer to pay) as he knew that's what you do when you ask someone on a date. This is a grown adult man and he doesn't act as gentlemanly as a teen in the early 2000s did?

'Gentlemanly' - just Uggh

AlcoholSwab · 03/05/2024 22:52

I'm not sure why you'd expect a man you don't know from Adam to buy you a meal.

This is not 1954 or 1854.

TheFunHasGone · 03/05/2024 22:54

I'd rather pay for myself

Summerbay23 · 03/05/2024 22:56

I’d always offer to pay (I’m female) but likewise would be great if someone else insisted. If someone just paid for their own I’d definitely be put off.