Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

[ShyPearlMoose]

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

I don't know, but I do know there are rules around social media contact and that they are there for a very good reason. I would be extremely concerned about any teacher who would subscribe to a former student's OnlyFans, on a professional and personal level. It's absolutely abhorrent and no teacher I have ever worked with would consider this ok, apart from presumably the predator who was exposed and sacked due to his inappropriate social media use regarding pupils.

well it might vary between different MATS, the codes of conduct I have seen say 2 years since leaving sixth form, it may well be a lot longer if a student leaves at year 11

The teacher is a customer that has provided his personal and financial information, all of which are PID covered by GDPR.

How is this not a breach of GDPR? Particularly in this context of an adult purchasing a legal service from another adult?

I struggle with the idea of someone who chooses to put out x rated content having any kind of moral objection to people that choose to watch it.

I think they are both a bit gross to be honest

This could be something, but it could be nothing. Therefore your friend needs to report it. It feels wrong that a teacher has subscribed to an ex-students’s adult website if they realised that she was an ex-student. It’s not like bumping into an ex-students out and about in bars and clubs. It is a deliberate act in choosing this site and signing up. It’s not illegal, but not professional either, and out of the probably millions of sites that you could subscribe to if you’re into that sort of thing, why pick an ex-student. (If he realised to be fair.)

He may not realise that she is an ex-student, so either he is being naive and needs a word or actually there is a bigger picture going on. Abusers generally aren’t caught by one thing, it’s often lots of little things - low level concerns that start to build up a bigger picture. This would fall into that, might be something, might be nothing.

It's bleeuugh but not sure what you can report, she's 22, and he's no longer teaching her.

But surely every 'only fans' account has been someone's 'student' at some time?

Sure, it's repugnant, but in my view, everyone who subscribes to 'only fans' is repugnant 😬

So, it’s supposedly empowering for women to have Only fans accounts in order to make money by carrying out various sexually explicit acts, but it’s sleazy / dodgy / wrong for someone else to subscribe and pay for it? I mean, surely you can’t have it both ways!?

If you do seedy things you attract seedy people.

She could have all sorts of creeps paying to look at her. All kinds of peudo's, flashers, stalkers etc. Anyone she knows in real life could potentially pay to look at her - builder, electrician, neighbour, teacher, family member 😬

If you sell yourself - that's what you get.

He's probably not looking at her face 🤣🤣

There’s nothing in the OP’s post that indicated he has specifically searched for the person. I would assume that he has come across her site whist browsing OF and subscribed. TBH as a teacher, I’d be more concerned that a former student was selling porn, and feel like we had failed her in some way. After all, I would assume that this school doesn’t offer prostitution as an option for work experience.

What's really worrying is the possibility he is deliberately searching for his former students online. If he has tracked this young woman down on purpose, it suggests he is acting on sexual attraction to the students in his care - perhaps thinking he is staying on the bounds of acceptable by leaving a gap between them finishing school and him finding them (he isn't, but some people on this thread apparently think he is).

Predators and groomers escalate their behaviour. There is a relationship of trust and power between teachers and students and we have to ensure that young people are protected from this being abused. Teachers contacting former students can open up the potential for this to happen, hence the professional standards in place to prevent it.

This is even more serious that a teacher befriending a former pupil on mainstream social media as it's unequivocally sexual.

People can speculate that it could be an innocent mistake, that he's an ordinary creep who just follows young women on OnlyFans and hasn't realised it's an ex-pupil, but anyone involved in safeguarding can't just dismiss these things as 'probably a coincidence'. It seems far more likely that he does know who she is, and possible that part of the thrill for him is the memory of her as a child in her school uniform in his classes. Does that sound like someone you want teaching your teenage daughter?

So this teacher decided to use his real name as his username and/or his actual photo?

I wouldn’t want him teaching me…. not because of what he looks at in his own time but more because he’s a fucking moron.

Grim but your friend needs to be careful here. If she reports him to school (and for what? Watching an adult woman on an adult site doing porn?), he is quite within his right to report her for breaching data protection. Upshot of that-she could get fined by the ICO plus she could get kicked off the site; the very premise over these vile sites is the anonymity provided for “customers”. Only Fans will not care that he was once her teacher; they will only care about potential liability plus press reporting, which may impact their income. Not nice but it is possible.

How many people are on OnlyFans? It's a global website, it's huge. And he just happened to accidentally end up on a former student's profile? I don't see how that is more likely than him searching for her.

@ShyPearlMoose do you have a “real life” job also? Because this would be the equivalent of someone reporting you to your employer for being on OF. You have no right. Maintain his privacy. You chose to be on OF, you can’t chose who looks at you.

Also, she is an adult.

If she doesn't want people looking at her only fans, don't do only fans.

Simple.

Why put intimate footage of yourself on the internet then expect only people you don't know to look at it? If she thinks people are creepy for looking - why the hell is she creating material that attracts creepy blokes?

Would a teacher really have a list of ex pupils and search them all on the off chance they were on OF?

That just doesn't sound very likely to me, is there more to this that has led him to be able to make the connection?

If the teacher is buying onlyfans, he has no respect for women and views them as objects, so yes he's failing his female students.

You’re making assumptions though. Obviously, one would need actual proof, which would mean his devices being checked for their search history. But as nothing illegal has taken place, then that’s not going to happen.
It’s pointless getting all worked up about it, because he’s not actually committed a crime, and if the SM policy in his school says no SM contact within 2 years, then he’s not even gone against that, so couldn’t be disciplined in school.
It’s grim all round, but not necessarily a safeguarding matter as such. However, the fact that she has outed her clients is an issue.

I wouldn't want my DC being taught by a man that views women as objects to be bought.

I don’t disagree.

Of course he doesn't have a list of every pupil he's ever taught. Going on the theory that he's a predator, he no doubt remembers the girls he's attracted to. He could have been looking this young woman up online since she was a pupil, others too. Groomers choose their targets; you can't say someone isn't a predator because they don't go after every single person that falls into their category. So no, I'm sure he hasn't laboriously typed the contents of every register he's taken in the past four years into the OF search bar - but he might have been looking at this young woman, and others in his classes on various social media accounts, for a long time.

I'm not saying that's definitely the case, but his behaviour here raises the suspicion that it could be the case. The OP remembers him being creepy at school. Robust safeguarding means investigating these possibilities. If he is a predator, then at some point masturbating over former pupils won't be enough for him.

How about if the policy is five years, like it was in my last two schools?

I'm writing from the perspective of someone who has worked with a teacher who pursued pupils via social media by the way; I know it happens. And surprise surprise, it was the teacher that everyone got creepy vibes from but never did anything about because there was never solid proof - until some teenage girls were victimised by him. Gut instincts are there for a reason. And teachers getting on pupils/ex-pupils' social media is a warning sign.