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Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

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ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

OP posts:
jenny38 · 03/05/2024 11:49

I imagine in his contract there could be a phrase about conduct, which says something along the lines of " not engaging in anything that can bring the profession or establishment into disrepute".
I would let the school know. This could be the tip of the iceberg. As someone who works with teenagers, this makes my skin crawl. Those rumours may well have a basis.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 03/05/2024 12:11

OF is likely to take the doxxing of its subscribers quite seriously, their business model wouldn't survive otherwise

MzHz · 03/05/2024 12:39

Your friends is selling herself on line and is complaining who’s buying.

my god I couldn’t be friends with someone as awful AND stupid as that.

You’re only as good as the company you keep @ShyPearlMoose

up your standards a bit.

Todaywasbetter · 03/05/2024 12:47

So she doesn’t mind any Tom Dick and Harry looking at her Fanny, but somehow made an exception for him that’s just funny.

WearyAuldWumman · 03/05/2024 12:48

ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

It's gross, but there's nothing for the school to take action over. Your friend is in her 20s and the former teacher is no longer in a position of authority over her.

I recall hearing of a situation where a young woman of a similar age was embarrassed because she was giving out leaflets for the lap dancing club where she worked. (She was waylaying men on their way to a rugby match.)

As she was handing over a leaflet, she realised that she was giving it to a former teacher who was laughing his head off. She wasn't at all happy about the situation. (No, he didn't go to her club.)

Unfortunately, your friend's occupation means that she's going to be leered at by unsavoury types. I'm not shaming here - but that's literally the job she's signed up for.

If your friend is embarrassed, she can surely block the creep?

I think your point is that this creep shouldn't be working in a school, but he hasn't done anything inappropriate with someone of school age, so the school cannot take action.

tamade · 03/05/2024 12:56

If she doesn’t want dirty old men wanking over her she could always, er, maybe not do only fans?

SpideyVerse · 03/05/2024 13:01

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 05:39

OP, lots of people have answered who don't understand teachers' safeguarding responsibilities, please do not listen to anyone saying 'it's not illegal' - maybe not, but it is a breach of professional standards and so unacceptable anyway. In all the teaching posts I have held, it's been a school policy that teachers do not have any social media contact with students for a minimum of five years after the students leave the school. That's normal social media - OnlyFans is a whole other level.

The school absolutely need to know about this; it is serious, it is creepy and your gut instincts are not wrong. He has sought out a former pupil for sexual gratification. It's not acceptable and if the school has robust safeguarding policies they absolutely will act.

Edited

Yep

HugeCwtch · 03/05/2024 13:05

RawBloomers · 03/05/2024 02:17

Might be the least of her problems but OP and others are concerned about the problems this “fan” might have caused for other people, especially children at his school.

What other people?

what has his porn habit got to do with his job?

She is 22 - an adult, who is sharing his confidential information, and I would say she is in breach.

godmum56 · 03/05/2024 13:07

destinationzoo · 03/05/2024 00:50

Your friend is on only fans?
Who her 'fans' are is the least of her problems.

this

ChipsCheeseAndGravey · 03/05/2024 13:16

I don’t think the school can do anything, maybe there’s something in the contract but I don’t know what that actual repercussions would be. On the other hand if my niece was in his class this would concern me I can’t lie. Not great conduct for a teacher. I’m sensitive to this kind of thing because we had several teacher at my school who had rumours about them who turned out to be actual pedophiles and groomers.

Nanny0gg · 03/05/2024 13:27

ChipsCheeseAndGravey · 03/05/2024 13:16

I don’t think the school can do anything, maybe there’s something in the contract but I don’t know what that actual repercussions would be. On the other hand if my niece was in his class this would concern me I can’t lie. Not great conduct for a teacher. I’m sensitive to this kind of thing because we had several teacher at my school who had rumours about them who turned out to be actual pedophiles and groomers.

Seriously, there could be hundreds of teachers/doctors/all sorts using OF.

How would we know?

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 13:35

Nanny0gg · 03/05/2024 13:27

Seriously, there could be hundreds of teachers/doctors/all sorts using OF.

How would we know?

They can use it but not to masturbate over their former pupils or patients. It's a pretty low bar to set.

mjf981 · 03/05/2024 13:39

So she’s selling herself online to horny men. She can control who views her content. Either block him or don’t. Don’t ruin his career for some sort of imaginary high ground, when he’s only buying what she is selling. You can’t have it both ways. It would be hypocritical.

EBearhug · 03/05/2024 13:44

I think it depends on the school's safeguarding policy, but even if it's 2 years rather than 5, it's still not great.

I think it also makes a difference if it's clear he knows it's her. Even if he didn't realise, it's still creepy that he's subscribing to pages of women barely older than those he teaches. Has he ever made comments on her page, especially if it's along the lines of, "I thought you were hot even when you sat in the back of my class?" I would absolutely report if that were the case.

He is daft in any case - yes, I'm quite aware teachers look at porn (some of them also do OLD,) but there's no need for anyone to pay for it these days, and if you work in an industry where safeguarding is so important, it seems stupid to do something so traceable as subscribing.

But unless you have been looking at her profile and you can see him as one of her subscribers (and I don't know how OnlyFans works there,) you shouldn't be the one to report it, she should. You would just be reporting hearsay. If she reports it, she has proof.

sheroku · 03/05/2024 13:46

This thread is absolutely incredible. People really think a (possibly quiet naive) 22 year old selling saucy pictures of herself online is "just as grim" as her older, former teacher paying for them? The same guy that the OP described as "creepy" when they were at school? Unless she's a big OnlyFans star then the chances of him just happening to subscribe without knowing she was a former pupil must surely be nil.

But yes of course the main concern here is the GDPR breach. Must make sure those perverts don't get outted.

WearyAuldWumman · 03/05/2024 14:04

sheroku · 03/05/2024 13:46

This thread is absolutely incredible. People really think a (possibly quiet naive) 22 year old selling saucy pictures of herself online is "just as grim" as her older, former teacher paying for them? The same guy that the OP described as "creepy" when they were at school? Unless she's a big OnlyFans star then the chances of him just happening to subscribe without knowing she was a former pupil must surely be nil.

But yes of course the main concern here is the GDPR breach. Must make sure those perverts don't get outted.

I've never watched - and never shall watch - one of those sites, but from what I've read, it's often much more than just 'saucy pictures', unfortunately.

I'm fairly ancient and now only do a teeny bit of supply. When I was still teaching full-time, I had a couple of instances of pupils thinking that they could make a good living out of the 'sex industry'. Yes, it was all reported at the time.

These girls just have no idea of what they're getting into. I recall one girl telling me she intended to be a 'pole dancer because there's good money in it'.

A few years later, a male colleague came into school on a Monday morning, visibly distressed. He'd been accosted by a former pupil on his Saturday night out - he was just a young man - and she'd offered him a particular service for a fiver.

He'd given her five pounds and told her to use it to take a taxi home.

It's a slippery slope.

ETA I think that when people are mentioning the "data breach", they're worried about the girl getting into legal trouble. (It's not fair, but the law seldom is.)

Itloggedmeoutagain · 03/05/2024 14:10

From the OP all we know is

They thought the teacher was a creep
She's posted pics / videos of herself online
He has subscribed

What we don't know is...
Is she using her real name?
Did he actively look her up?

Without more info we don't know that he has done anything wrong.

What we definitely know is she shared this confidential information with you.

oakleaffy · 03/05/2024 14:13

Our science teacher married a pupil ( 17) he was. 30’s
It happens.

We were shocked though.

Ponderingwindow · 03/05/2024 14:13

That these sites are legal is appalling, not because nudity or sex is taboo, but because it is just another way to try to purchase consent. The power imbalance is huge even without the former teacher dynamic in play.

that it is a former teacher watching makes no difference because everyone watching is a creep.

if you want to help your friend with this situation, help her find real employment. Help get her out of a situation where she is being exploited, even if she feels relatively protected by the faux anonymity and distance provided by the online experience.

brunettemic · 03/05/2024 14:15

It’s a bit weird but report him for what…watching a bit of what’s effectively porn? You can’t sack someone for that unless they’re doing it at work. On the other hand, you could ruin their reputation.

oakleaffy · 03/05/2024 14:17

It’s easy money for those that can do it.

Probably nothing else pays as well if one is unskilled.

Women an attractive young men know they are wank fodder.
At least online there is no physical contact.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 14:19

brunettemic · 03/05/2024 14:15

It’s a bit weird but report him for what…watching a bit of what’s effectively porn? You can’t sack someone for that unless they’re doing it at work. On the other hand, you could ruin their reputation.

Maybe the reputation of a teacher who pays his former pupils for sexual content should be ruined?

It's forever baffling to me how sacred a man's reputation is to some people, as opposed to the safety of girls and women - and I absolutely believe a teacher watching porn created by a young woman he taught only four years ago may well be a risk to the teenage girls in his classes now and in the future. I value them and their safety far more highly than his reputation - which wouldn't be at risk if he wasn’t subscribing to ex-pupils' OnlyFans.

loropianalover · 03/05/2024 14:20

I’m interested by the range of responses.

It doesn’t seem to me like there is anything that OP can do except suggest to her friend to report him to the school - if OP reports to the school, I don’t see what can be done? She’ll have no proof, it will essentially just be idle gossip.

OP’s friend shouldn’t have shared that X man has paid for her porn. If she’s uncomfortable it’s her choice to ignore him, block him, or report him.

hobocock · 03/05/2024 14:20

It's vile and creepy. I find all of the people watching only fans vile and creepy, not just the science teacher.
He must recognize her. He really shouldn't have paid to watch an ex student of his, even if she is 22. He must know how completely inappropriate that is and obviously doesn't give a shit.

However, I don't know what the terms and conditions are for people who have only fans accounts. Surely they aren't allowed to name people who subscribe to their accounts? And certainly not then go and report them to their employer.
This is not to say that I'm dismissing the concerns and worrying about a data protection breach rather than about the young woman herself, but she does need to consider the legal aspects of it too to avoid any potential problems.

I assume she can block him though and that should be the first thing she does.

Soontobe60 · 03/05/2024 14:21

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:16

How about if the policy is five years, like it was in my last two schools?

Then clearly it’s a disciplinary matter for the school.