Islam groups calling for caliphate in Germany, aibu to be petrified?

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/protesters-germany-call-islamic-fundamentalism-caliphate-solution

I truly believe a lot of young men are looking for excuses to be violent towards women and they are feeling hard done by ...

Exactly - so hating what they themselves have become they'll turn it outwards onto others and cast around for some justification, all too often a corrupted interpretation of what they claim to believe in

Sounds like Israel which is tolerant of different religions and has this written into its constitution.

Is that you, Laurence?

Mosques attended mostly by people who just want to do well, raise their families, tend their gardens and dote on their grandchildren. Big deal, so what.

So do I, I am sad to say. I think a lot of people have their heads in the sand over this increasing threat.
Just look at Iran, Afghanistan and Lebanon for examples of countries that were once tolerant and nice places to live but have been taken over by an extreme element of the religion, and are now awful places for women in particular (in the case of Iran and Afghanistan especially). Why do you think that can’t happen here, especially when there seems to be a reluctance by the authorities to deal with issues such as the teacher from Batley?

I find it extraordinary that people can call for a Jihad on the streets of London, or any liberal democratic city. They obviously hate our freedoms

Unfortunately they can't even get that right, @SuziQuinto
In its purist form "jihad" is an internal struggle; the very word means "striving", in this case to be a better muslim/person, but as with so much else it's been corrupted and used to spread yet more hate

Allows you to
make claims without anyone being able to examine them critically, and you accuse me of having a narrative?

I think though, even if it isn't going to happen, the fact that there are large groups of people who hold such views and may very well go to any lengths to advocate for their cause, is scary.

The sort of claims being presented as "fact" on here are the opposite of being "critically examined".

Most of them are far right tropes that even a cursory Google will debunk. Just because you believe something, doesn't make it true.

Thank you. I didn't know that.
What a shame it's used in such a hostile way.
I do know that antisemitism has risen significantly, and that alone gives cause for concern.

1,100 people is not a "large group". In the UK we've had protests of hundreds of thousands of people against various things.

Everything should be examined critically with as much factual evidence as possible regardless of your standpoint.

Thanks puzzled. I was going to post the same but then couldn't find the right way to express it

ThE sKy Is FaLLiNg!

'Islam groups?' Tad bit Islamophobic isn't that.

If you get your news from Fox News, then you have other problems to sort out.

Fox news, lol.

OK.
It would be good to see posters on here putting as much effort into posting a researched view as they are into telling OP she's right to be "petrified" and posting various conspiracies to back it up.

You may well mock. However, our freedoms have been fought for, and hard won. We need to be vigilant in their defence. Nothing wrong with that.

@Lemoncakeandcoffee Look,where I live is my business. I'm not going to tell you so you can run off and find a 'study' or opinion piece to trash the country that I love.

It's a fox news source so likely to be a misquote

Given the lack of community and mental health issues of gen z in our atheist country, a benign caliphate might not be a bad thing.

However if it comes with oppression of women then it's terrible. Couples then have more children so they have a son which relates to more overpopulation.

Also Ramadan fasting is a problem further from equator with short nights. Christianity worked because it worked in climate appropriate festivals

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Our freedoms have been fought for, in WW2, against the rise of the far right across Europe including the Nazis.
You don't "defend the freedoms" by spreading far right conspiracy theories about the threat from outsiders again.

Absolutely it works both ways. I always find these sort of discussions are helped when posts are held up against the hierarchy or disagreement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg

I'm well aware about WW2, thank you.
I'm not spreading far right conspiracy theories. I don't necessarily agree with some posts on here.
However. I see some troubling incidents and am concerned about those who are fundamentally opposed to civil and religious rights for others.
Vigilance. That is all.

Wouldn’t be interested in an opinion piece, just facts.

Yet you’ve posted no evidence to allay said fears? Wheres your evidence to say that she’s wrong?