"Migrants going to Ireland," states Rishi Sunak PM

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AIBU to believe this is fake news, hype at best??

Indeed, some may be going to "Ireland,! and may have been doing so
for the last two years anyway.s or so.

Therefore, what was the number of migrants/boat people that went to Ireland from Jan 1st and Dec 31st in 2022 and the year ending 2023??

As I've said many times, I don't trust any politician or political party for that matter as they are on the whole, in it for themselves.

Message to Rishi Sunak, PM - Please give us the numbers. (I bet you it is no different to what was happening previously)

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

The difference with France and the UK and the UK and Ireland is that there is a completely open border between the UK and Ireland. Also there is already an agreement in place that the Uk don’t want to honour. So it isn’t the same situation.

@bombastix when you say a bigger stick... we could always send Bono and McGregor to live over there....

Fucking terrified for myself

Would do anything to get rid of them gobshites.

It might not scare Rishi Sunak. He probably likes their stuff.

I can't understand how people have no critical thinking at all!!
There are no houses, services etc for the people here. Migrants are being housed on the bloody streets!!

It takes years of planning to put the needed services in place & money!!!

What "agreement in place" are you chatting about??
Thanks

And what exactly do you think it’s like over here?

Both Ireland and the UK seem to agree that there is an operational agreement in place as part of the Common Travel agreement. However it is not legally binding and the UK have said they will not comply with it.

Just more of the UK saying one thing & doing another!

Well. The issue is a basic one. The CTA is not a binding piece of international law. It is not a treaty. It is an understanding between the UK and Ireland. It thus a pretty fragile thing though in its favour it has survived longer than any British PM or a UK government.

I’m curious. Help me out if I have missed the answer. How are those seeking asylum getting to NI, to then allegedly make their way to Dublin?

I assume they enter the UK via Kent, or nearby. Getting to NI requires crossing another body of water. Ferry requires ID, as does a flight.

Or is the UK Govt. relocating them to spread them around?

A ferry from Scotland to NI may not require ID. But equally hiding in a lorry on ferry is not much of a stretch from Stranraer to Belfast.

Thank you. All said, it is not really an agreement as its "not legally binding."

TBH - If I was PM, I'd let the boat people just go to Ireland and let them sort it out. We've padis hundreds of millions to France, Ireland can pay the French as well to stop the boats as by all accounts they are not very welcoming by all accounts re this group of people wanting to live there.

Thanks for sharing

Btw obviously Ireland should keep cool. The chances are it will be dealing with a different PM in the next six months anyway

Yes, agree with you on this.

Yes I think it will all blow over with a new government. The government here are only delighted to be able to blame the Tory government. They can point a fingers at someone without pointing it at asylum seekers!

He’s some cheeky fecker though, gloating that failed asylum seekers going to Ireland means the Rwanda plan has worked, admitting there is an operational agreement in place and saying that they won’t be honouring and then not even meeting with the Irish government.

it’s not very neighbourly.

Let’s hope the next crowd improve Irish/British relations.

I don't know too much about Simon Harris but it is all mouth and no trousers. Who knows what Labour will do. I think they might be less directly rude, but as for returns, well, they might not take a dissimilar view to Sunak because of French recalcitrance. It may suit them just as well in practice.

Let us hope for less handbagging and silly press releases, whether by accident or design.

LOL.

There's a part of me that suspects letting the migrants to NI and into Ireland is part of a plan to make the Irish government consider closing the border.

So could any other country the migrants end up in, by that 'logic' - but that's not going to happen. If allowed into the UK, the UK has a duty toward them.

Turning a blind eye to onward travel across a land border is a distinctly unneighbourly act.

'The boat people' 🙄 Your humanity is really shining through there OP.

Failed asylum seekers in rest of EU come to U.K. all the time though. The man that killed an elderly man last year was a failed asylum seeker from Germany I think so from the U.K. pov we would want to be able to send back probably thousands of asylum seekers back to the EU.
reports this morning that the little girl that died on the boat in France was born in Sweden and her family were failed asylum seekers from there.
it’s abEurope wide issue which is now hitting Ireland but the rest of us are familiar with.

Some strong news headlines this morning with the background of those in the crush and Columbia arrests

Listening to the story related to this thread 14 times asylum was rejected, I keep hearing on here the Dublin convention means people can be returned, it’s not the case for nearly all