Baby Reindeer creator is provoking his stalker

[jengachampion]

SPOILERS AHEAD
I’ll preface this by saying I had a male stalker for 7 years. I moved, changed jobs, and deleted all social media in that time. I’m also a survivor of SA, as well as assault after being spiked, similar to RG in the show.

It completely baffles me that he would completely replicate his stalker down to physical likeness, occupation, accent, exact correspondences and references like hanging curtains.

He is clearly not too worried about people finding the real person, as well as her potentially contacting him again.

If it were me telling my story, I would change all identifying details of both of us, because I would NEVER want to go through it again. RG telling his story this way is hugely weird to me and really speaks to the theme of mutual obsession he hints at in the show.

@ExpertInNothing
Aw you clicked thanks on my last comment, were you trying to report me again? 😂

I find some of your posts amusing 😌

I'm.glad to see you have been able to remove abusive and foul language from your posts. Well done, I'm.happy for you!

All I said was that you were bleating on and that it was vile to talk about female privilege in this context, in that removed post. Glad a previous poster also commented to say they saw it and confirmed it wasn't abusive

You'll want to toughen up if you want to make it in entertainment, because no doubt the critics will use far more 'abusive' language than that seeing as it wasn't actually abusive.

I'm not personally offended by you, but I think it's important to point out toxic behavior. Clearly people who monitor these threads agree some of your content is not appropriate. Hopefully this is a chance for you to pause and reflect.

I don't have the power to remove your posts. I think it would help if you had some space to reflect. I wish you well.

Definitely best to ignore completely, and not respond to anyone who is just here to derail this thread.

You seem to want to make this personal so I'm not going to engage with you. I disagree with some of your views and sadly you just need to accept that.

I hope you learn from this experience and become a better more rounded person who can communicate more effectively 😊

Thanks, I agree. It's best not to respond to such people. 😊

Especially when they quote and reply to themselves 😂

Do you think he may be benefitting from getting his story out first????
It would be interesting to see what it was like from Teris perspective
for example.

He's benefitted by becoming famous and earning shitloads, I doubt this was about justice as he would have gone through the correct channels for that.

I have no issue with Terri, she has been depicted well, I have issue with RG who to my eyes seems like a coward. What others call trauma I call poor choices, he could have shut the casting couch situation down along with the drug taking and shut the interactions with Martha down at the start.

He protected no one, Teri was assaulted, verbally or physically we don't know, his parents were not protected and a woman with mental health problems was encouraged to communicate with him as a fawing audience in a boring pub.

He has taken no responsibility and now has decided that his poor choices are that of a total victim and should be aired not by a court of law but in the court of public opinion, and that public are nervous to air their thoughts because all of this is such a sensitive subject and to object places you in a possition of looking like you lack empathy.

That's the clever in it.

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Yeah, I see some of your point to be fair. If Terri is real then what's her story? Likewise his ex who was apparently caught up it too. We are getting one part of a complex story.

I tend to think we should believe all victims, but trial by social media is horrible too. I recently heard about someone who was victimized by a police officer and his wife, but naming them publicly could be dangerous for the same reasons as above.

I tend to think we should believe all victims,

Throughtout life I've found not all victims are victims.

More thorough research needed to be done before this was made into a series for one of the largest entertainment channels.

I don't care how well Netflix have covered their arses and how capable their lawyers are, this has not been dealt with fairly or properly.

I would imagine that the benefits would be short lived. Sure, he might gain financially and initially it seemed to be the good type of fame I think, but he's obviously getting a bit of a backlash now and I wonder how badly that's going to affect him.

He's definitely not a coward at all for not shutting down the casting couch situation, he was only 23 at the time he was raped and I don't know how long the grooming had been going on before that. If the abuser is the person who people think it is then he was close to 50 at the time. Gadd was extremely vulnerable, not a coward. He was 25 I believe when he met Martha and hadn't dealt with the previous trauma (and I'm not sure when that abuse stopped) so again that was a vulnerable time period for him, it was nothing to do with being a coward.

You didn't press charges when he tried to kill you and your colkeague because he had 2 children. I've heard it all now.

I actually think he has done a lot of damage to people coming forwards.

He has shown men aren't listened to by police because apparently they don't report properly - he knew his stalker had a record and didn't mention it, as he said, which could have saved police time and makes the viewer feel he didn't really want it to end. People will now wonder if men actually like being stalked, for that and the multiple times he said he enjoyed it and his wanking over her and now trying to get her attention again, using her for profit and laughing about it all on social media.

I think he has made people question whether stalking is actually that bad if someone can make a comedy show about it and change details as time goes on.

Re the trans community I think it showed how trans people think they are viewed - big burly blokes just staring them down on public transport. Gadd showed complete disregard for them by lying, not protecting Terri when abused, lying on his profile (catfishing).

I also think he does a disservice to homosexuals by suggesting the only reason anyone is bi or gay is because they were raped and had the choice taken away from them.

I don't think he has moved the conversation forward at all. He is making the circles smaller and watching people each other over decades old judgements he himself has re-instigated.

People are getting so wound up by a fictional drama 'based on a true story'. People are reading way too much into it. They are also insulting the intelligence of viewers.

I think it was original, brilliantly made and acted. It makes you think about stalking and the risks involved with getting involved with someone with serious mental health issues.

Of course people are getting wound up - it's a very emotive subject a lot of people have experienced. His portayal doesn't reflect many women's experience in the slightest. It actually makes a mockery of many women's experience.

The show should not be seen as a cautionary tale against befriending people with MH issues. That is one of the reasons the show is hugely irresponsible. The fact you have taken that from it says it all.

@RespiceFinemKarma
Of course people are getting wound up - it's a very emotive subject a lot of people have experienced. His portayal doesn't reflect many women's experience in the slightest. It actually makes a mockery of many women's experience.

Why on earth would his experience reflect many women's experience. He is not a women 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don't think that's true at all - most if not all women on here are very happy to acknowledge that men can be victims.

But we also know that both 'no-one believes men can be victims, therefore men are the real oppressed class' and 'there aren't enough facilities for male victims, therefore men are the real oppressed class' are men's rights propaganda tactics.

And that's what we're calling out.

I think comments like this are unfair. He is a victim, ‘Martha’ is a victim and ‘Terri’ is a victim. RG purposefully blurs the line between victim and abuser - he talks about this in a few articles. It’s clear Martha had a traumatic childhood and is really quite mentally unwell. One can be both victim and abuser.

The physical attack on Teri didn’t make sense but I’m sure I read that this didn’t happen in real life. If it had happened, and Teri wanted it reported then she would have needed to give a statement and the evidence of her injuries.

This programme is nothing to do with women's experiences of stalking. It's about his own experience.