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Abhorrent comments made about a persons height

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:30

Calling someone who is below the average height, "pint-sized" is abhorrent
at the very least. A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

Yesterday, during the PMQ's the lead was taken by the deputy heads of both Tories and Labour. Standing in for the Labour leader was Angela Rayner. She called the Tory leader, Rishi Sunak a "pint-sized leader" when she was losing the arugument

This reminds me of clowns at work who had nicknames for other people who did not fit in with their agenda. Often people will make disparaging comments about another when they feel threatened because of their own inadequacies.
Should she apologise for making these disgusting comments?

AIBU to believe these comments were necessary, inappropriate and disgustingly abhorrent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

Angela Rayner aims ‘pint-sized loser’ jibe at Rishi Sunak during PMQs

Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden countered the criticism by mocking the Labour deputy over her housing arrangements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

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Catlord · 25/04/2024 13:39

eatdrinkandbemerry · 25/04/2024 13:11

I've been called pint size all my life it's hardly damaging it just shows their immaturity 🤷‍♀️.
They wouldn't know how to handle me if I was taller 🤣

They wouldn't know how to handle me if I was taller 🤣

Love this!!

pointythings · 25/04/2024 13:40

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 13:12

Did anyone else have to look up ‘simian’ to understand the above posters description of AR?

No, but I am a language nerd.

That posts just drips snobbery. Nauseating.

Notreat · 25/04/2024 13:41

Aaron95 · 25/04/2024 09:52

It's PMQ's. Neither side ever actually answers the questions, they just deflect and shout nsults at each other for 30 minutes trying to come up with the best 1-liner which will make the news.

It's not for either side to answer the questions. It's for the Government to answer questions. But they never do! They certainly shouldn't be asking questions of the opposition!. PMQs is for people to ask questions of the Prime Minister not the other way round

JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 13:42

Notreat · 25/04/2024 13:41

It's not for either side to answer the questions. It's for the Government to answer questions. But they never do! They certainly shouldn't be asking questions of the opposition!. PMQs is for people to ask questions of the Prime Minister not the other way round

Its almost as if there is a clue in the name!

Naunet · 25/04/2024 13:49

I’m short, calling this abhorrent and ableist is ridiculously dramatic. What do you call nonces or murderers if this ranks as abhorrent on your scale?

AGlinnerOfHope · 25/04/2024 13:58

Regardless of the policies- which may or may not be crap- there is supposed to be appropriate language and behaviour in the house.

One can only call someone a liar if they are, for example. Boris.

Name calling isn’t in the spirit to use MN parlance.

newnamenellie · 25/04/2024 14:02

I think abhorrent is a bit strong

I agree that references to height/weight whatever are unnecessary and make the person saying them look foolish, but no, not abhorrent

LuckysDadsHat · 25/04/2024 14:04

Westfacing · 25/04/2024 13:06

This was just read out by Matt Chorley on Times Radio! Grin

Oh! Were they talking about the thread?

MrTiddlesTheCat · 25/04/2024 14:15

Meh, I'm short. My kids call me Frodo. I aspire to being called pint-sized but I'm too fat, more like barrel-sized.

NoisySnail · 25/04/2024 14:21

Waiting for you to post threads about the dreadful misogyny routinely aimed at Angela Rayner. Suspect I will be waiting a while.

HappiestSleeping · 25/04/2024 14:21

MrTiddlesTheCat · 25/04/2024 14:15

Meh, I'm short. My kids call me Frodo. I aspire to being called pint-sized but I'm too fat, more like barrel-sized.

You're like me then. I'm in shape. Round is definitely a shape.

That said, I am not short, I'm 6'2, but I should be 7'5 for my weight.

L1ttledrummergirl · 25/04/2024 14:27

I'd reserve abhorrent for people who think it's OK to pay a shit ton of money to transport vulnerable people from one country to another against their will.

DameKatyDenisesClagnuts · 25/04/2024 14:27

Presumably you weren't offended about the 'joke' about her claiming the HoC as her primary residence as she'd debated there so many times lately (to the delight of the baying Tories)?

Dontcallmescarface · 25/04/2024 14:45

Given your frequent goady posts OP you really should change your username so as not to cause offence to actual distinguished social commentators.

whatsthpoint · 25/04/2024 14:53

PoppyJM · 25/04/2024 09:36

I hadn’t seen this, but what a disgraceful thing to say to him.

I didn’t vote at the last election as I thought both options were awful. Lots of people who did vote ended up voting for the least bad option. I don’t think I will vote this time either. I don’t think the current conservative govt has done a good job. But I don’t Angela Rayner is is a good option either. I wish they would put a “none of the above” box.

So you just don't care what happens to your country? Wow

Spirallingdownwards · 25/04/2024 14:54

You still haven't had a mad rant about addressed the point she was using a phrase coined by fellow Tory Nadine Dorries to describe him.

From a pint sized mumsnet poster (which may I guess make me a loser?)

AdamRyan · 25/04/2024 14:55

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 12:13

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That is a great gift Star

AdamRyan · 25/04/2024 14:56

parkrun500club · 25/04/2024 12:31

Both of those can be changed. Height can't and it should be a protected characteristic.

😂

whatsthpoint · 25/04/2024 15:04

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:30

Calling someone who is below the average height, "pint-sized" is abhorrent
at the very least. A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

Yesterday, during the PMQ's the lead was taken by the deputy heads of both Tories and Labour. Standing in for the Labour leader was Angela Rayner. She called the Tory leader, Rishi Sunak a "pint-sized leader" when she was losing the arugument

This reminds me of clowns at work who had nicknames for other people who did not fit in with their agenda. Often people will make disparaging comments about another when they feel threatened because of their own inadequacies.
Should she apologise for making these disgusting comments?

AIBU to believe these comments were necessary, inappropriate and disgustingly abhorrent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

So tell people to actually vote! If they care about this stuff they would get out there and vote

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 25/04/2024 15:07

DragonGypsyDoris · 25/04/2024 10:40

I save my use of the word 'abhorrent' for things that are genuinely abhorrent.

Yes.

Like the Tories running the NHS into the ground to sell it off to their salivating rich donor chums. Now that's something to get angry about.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 25/04/2024 15:12

CountingCrones · 25/04/2024 11:40

Sunak's 5'5" or possibly 5'6", judging by his height when he's next to not-short-arses.

He claims to be 5'7", but given the inflation the rest of us have suffered, I suppose an inch or two is pretty restrained of him.

Grin

Or shrinkflation - same price but smaller packet? Grin

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 25/04/2024 15:13

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:53

The Tories hate her because left wing working class people who reach positions of power scare them.

Edited

Yup!

Abitofalark · 25/04/2024 15:18

DuckDuckNo · 25/04/2024 09:44

As a pint-sized person, I can't be arsed

Heh. You mean you are short of arse?

As for Rayner, they have rules in the House of Commons about unparliamentary language so the Speaker would have picked up anything that was out of order. I was vaguely listening to PMQs but didn't hear that comment or notice who was in the Speaker's chair yesterday.

LilacFatball · 25/04/2024 15:24

I'm not a fan of Angela Rayner, but she absolutely demolished Dowden. She was stupid to give the Tories any ammunition to play the victim. It's let them get away with lying to the public again.

What I don't understand is why she, or Labour, aren't asking why Greater Manchester police (whose Police Chief not only spoke at the Tory Party Conference but is backed by MP James Daly... who advocated for the Rayner investigation's reopening.) are investigating a case that can't be prosecuted?

The calls for her to resign if found guilty seem a bit rich too, considering this is our second PM to have been found to have broken the law.

LilacFatball · 25/04/2024 15:25

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 25/04/2024 15:13

Yup!

She's not left wing.