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Abhorrent comments made about a persons height

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:30

Calling someone who is below the average height, "pint-sized" is abhorrent
at the very least. A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

Yesterday, during the PMQ's the lead was taken by the deputy heads of both Tories and Labour. Standing in for the Labour leader was Angela Rayner. She called the Tory leader, Rishi Sunak a "pint-sized leader" when she was losing the arugument

This reminds me of clowns at work who had nicknames for other people who did not fit in with their agenda. Often people will make disparaging comments about another when they feel threatened because of their own inadequacies.
Should she apologise for making these disgusting comments?

AIBU to believe these comments were necessary, inappropriate and disgustingly abhorrent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

Angela Rayner aims ‘pint-sized loser’ jibe at Rishi Sunak during PMQs

Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden countered the criticism by mocking the Labour deputy over her housing arrangements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 10:21

tennesseewhiskey1 · 25/04/2024 10:02

Brave to post this on mums net considering mumsnet is super left wing OP! I mean - its rude of her, but she is usually quite rude is she not?

Read my OP and note that I'd never heard this woman talk before. No wonder Sir Kiteth keeps his distance from her.

I'm no Tory or Labour but IMO, the Labour Party is much better off without this woman as IMO, she is unstable dynamite judging by what she said yesterday

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Sharptonguedwoman · 25/04/2024 10:22

Overtheatlantic · 25/04/2024 09:31

She doesn’t have the intellect to argue successfully without resorting to playground name calling.

Have you any idea at all about the slurs that are thrown around parliament? This is very minor and quite funny.

SnapdragonToadflax · 25/04/2024 10:23

Harvestfestivalknickers · 25/04/2024 10:13

It's such a shame the Labour front bench are such a poor bunch of politicians. The country is crying out for a new government, it should be an open goal for Starmer. Instead, I see no manifesto, a lack lustre leader and a front bench stuffed full of forgettable names and faces. Rayner is no stateswoman. I want to see leadership, competence and professionalism in my elected representatives. Not behaviour more akin to a school playground.

The Tories haven't called an election yet (for fuck's sake get on with it), so there won't be any manifesto from either party until that happens.

mysteriousspiderbite · 25/04/2024 10:23

Pocket rocket would have been far more dignified.

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 10:24

A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

No one sensible would ever say that calling a person of normal if short height "pint sized" is ableist. No one.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 25/04/2024 10:24

I thought she nailed PMqs yesterday

Sharptonguedwoman · 25/04/2024 10:24

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:30

Calling someone who is below the average height, "pint-sized" is abhorrent
at the very least. A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

Yesterday, during the PMQ's the lead was taken by the deputy heads of both Tories and Labour. Standing in for the Labour leader was Angela Rayner. She called the Tory leader, Rishi Sunak a "pint-sized leader" when she was losing the arugument

This reminds me of clowns at work who had nicknames for other people who did not fit in with their agenda. Often people will make disparaging comments about another when they feel threatened because of their own inadequacies.
Should she apologise for making these disgusting comments?

AIBU to believe these comments were necessary, inappropriate and disgustingly abhorrent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

I think you need to get over yourself here. It was a very minor jibe.

bombastix · 25/04/2024 10:25

What is this rarified country that everyone lives in? I mean they call each other Honourable and have actual rules via the Speaker precisely because they cannot regulate themselves and it is it an oppositional system. We are a country that likes a fair bit of satire and that is well established for hundreds of years.

If you don't like Rayner that is fine. But the House of Commons represents people. It does not mean that all of them look or sound like your average carbon cut out Tory not should they.

Immemorialelms · 25/04/2024 10:25

She said "Did he realise when he stabbed Boris in the back that he was ditching the biggest election winner for a pint sized loser?"

It's a comment on the standing and impact that the two leaders have, she's saying Boris bestrode the electoral landscape like a colossus when it came to winning- he was a "bigger" leader in that regard. Sunak is small time, less impactful, more lightweight etc etc - all the metaphors to do with size relating to political success.

But yeah, he's a short man and Boris is a tall man, so it's also a personal jibe she shouldn't have made.

RespiceFinemKarma · 25/04/2024 10:26

"Piccaninnies with watermelon smiles"
"Tank topped bum boys"
Calling for people to be shot and accepting money from racist donors, all these are fine though, right? Get back under your bridge.
😂

fatshamedbyfamily · 25/04/2024 10:26

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ReignOfError · 25/04/2024 10:27

It’s a quote from Nadine Dorries. I imagine Dowden knew that, which makes it a perfectly barbed comment.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 25/04/2024 10:27

It's PMQs. It's always been a bear pit of insults to get the back benchers riled up. Makes AIBU look like a tea party.

This just tells me you don't watch the Common often. Surprising, for such a Torybot.

And the Tories are by far the worst for retreating to personal insults when they are unable to deal with the question.

Iwasafool · 25/04/2024 10:27

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:58

Really.

Ask my friend, freind at school that was mocked for their lack of height every name under the sun. That friend of mine laughed it off at school. Then meeting this school fried by checne when out of hols we started talking about school and the person told me they fear coming into school and taking sick time off when they were not sick - it still happened now but that person now works for themselves and doing well but admitted it still hurts when they hear or know people are cing names etc

He's the Prime Minister, he's supposed to be running the country. He is not a child at school and shouldn't be treated like one. How do you think he can cope with tough decisions, confrontations with people like Putin if a comment about his height is such a big deal. I suppose all Putin needs to say is, "Hello shorty" and he can just take over the country, no need for military action.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/04/2024 10:27

So she’s horrendous referring to his height? (a quote from one of his colleagues, incidentally) but you can decide after hearing her speak for 5 minutes that she’s “unstable”?

Hypocrite. Again, please explain why you believe your username is appropriate. It certainly doesn’t appear to be so from some of your gibberish on this thread.

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 10:27

bombastix · 25/04/2024 09:50

But you are all talking about PMQs!

How stupid is Angela Rayner? I think she seems cleverer than might first appear.

Why doesn't she appear clever on first impression?

I don't follow politics closely but to succeed in an arena like that that's dominated by middle- and upper middle class white men, a working class woman will typically be far more intelligent than the typical man in the same role. The backwards and in heels thing.

She's pretty formidable as far as I can see.

bombastix · 25/04/2024 10:27

Boris not tall. He's pretty short. His photos are done to make him look tall. Actually he is just chunky

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/04/2024 10:29

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · Today 10:24
I thought she nailed PMqs yesterday

So did I. Never been an huge fan.

LittleBooThang · 25/04/2024 10:29

Oh calm down.

I am “pint sized”. You can’t be offended by everything ffs.

ExtraOnions · 25/04/2024 10:30

I love Rayner … I love the way she triggers the right-wing snowflakes. With any luck they will all be so angry they may combust.

NeverEnoughPants · 25/04/2024 10:32

I didn't realise I was disabled because I'm short!

If you think that's abhorrent, you need to pay more attention to what goes on in Westminster. That's stuff that's way way worse than that. I'm short. I've been called pint-sized, fun-size, shorty and more. None of which has made me react in anything close to the way you have, and none of which made me feel anything close to disabled. The fact that you have had the gall to conflate the two is astonishing.

We can see which side of the political boundary you are on. That's fine. But this just smacks of a desperate attempt to reduce the number of people thinking about voting Labour. That seems to be happening more and more on mumsnet. I think the Tory PR machine needs to work on getting better people representing their party, rather than these frankly bizarre attempts to undermine Labour.

Fwiw, I won't be voting for either Tory or Labour, before I get accused of being biased.

bombastix · 25/04/2024 10:32

@CelesteCunningham / I rate her. The Tories hate her. She is going to beat them. What a life she has had. I suspect they really hate her because she is likely to be radical. I would be too if I had had her life.

LaurieFairyCake · 25/04/2024 10:33

Oh fucks sake!

The Tories have fucked everyone so much and given all the money YOU AND I EARN to their rich mates !!

Who gives a FUCK about a bit of name calling

randomchap · 25/04/2024 10:34

bombastix · 25/04/2024 10:27

Boris not tall. He's pretty short. His photos are done to make him look tall. Actually he is just chunky

He's 5 foot 9. I think that's pretty average for the UK.

Definitely not tall, and absolutely a terrible failure of a pm.

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 10:34

bombastix · 25/04/2024 10:32

@CelesteCunningham / I rate her. The Tories hate her. She is going to beat them. What a life she has had. I suspect they really hate her because she is likely to be radical. I would be too if I had had her life.

Exactly, what I see of her love.

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