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Abhorrent comments made about a persons height

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:30

Calling someone who is below the average height, "pint-sized" is abhorrent
at the very least. A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

Yesterday, during the PMQ's the lead was taken by the deputy heads of both Tories and Labour. Standing in for the Labour leader was Angela Rayner. She called the Tory leader, Rishi Sunak a "pint-sized leader" when she was losing the arugument

This reminds me of clowns at work who had nicknames for other people who did not fit in with their agenda. Often people will make disparaging comments about another when they feel threatened because of their own inadequacies.
Should she apologise for making these disgusting comments?

AIBU to believe these comments were necessary, inappropriate and disgustingly abhorrent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

Angela Rayner aims ‘pint-sized loser’ jibe at Rishi Sunak during PMQs

Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden countered the criticism by mocking the Labour deputy over her housing arrangements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

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JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 21:53

Daz57 · 25/04/2024 21:42

She is stupid and lets herself down every time. Hopefully KS will pluck up the courage to get rid of her.

Deputy Leader of the Labour party is a position that is elected by the party members, it is not within the Leader's gift to get rid of their deputy, see also Blair and Prescott.

bombastix · 25/04/2024 21:53

I have to say that the Tories had better land a punch her properly or otherwise they will have inadvertently built her up as a socialist warrior queen who can be rude about them without fear and even worse she have got her hands on some real power in a year.

And now they can't ignore her. She is baiting them

therealcookiemonster · 25/04/2024 22:33

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:48

Until yesterday, I'd never heard this woman speak. Having watched her throw insults yesterday and they way she countered the the opposition, I totally agree with you.
IMO, this woman is a total embarrassment to the Labour party, hence the Labour leader steering clear of her recent woes as per recent news items re property

so you haven't heard her speak until yesterday and you are already forming an opinion of her. how wonderful. she literally wiped the floor with Oliver dowden. I personally think this style of debate in the houses of Parliament is a load of bollocks but she constantly gets attacked from the other side, she has to respond. unless you think good girls should just be sit down quietly and turn the other cheek?

we have had enough of posh twats ruining the country, pint sized or otherwise. she is a working class woman who pulled herself up despite many setbacks. and I imagine she can at least spell intellect.

therealcookiemonster · 25/04/2024 22:35

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:58

Really.

Ask my friend, freind at school that was mocked for their lack of height every name under the sun. That friend of mine laughed it off at school. Then meeting this school fried by checne when out of hols we started talking about school and the person told me they fear coming into school and taking sick time off when they were not sick - it still happened now but that person now works for themselves and doing well but admitted it still hurts when they hear or know people are cing names etc

I am sorry about your friend. but rishi is not your friend. if you have an issue with vile things lobbed across the benches, you better start with the tories first.

therealcookiemonster · 25/04/2024 22:38

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 18:50

Agreed. With Sir Kieth, as least he can put an argument across without being nasty.

who the fuck is Keith?

ps is this the first time you have watched PMQs OP?

the more I read your posts, the more I think that you are either very uninformed or extremely disingenuous... which is it?

if it is the formed, you should perhaps save yourself the embarrassment and not go round throwing accusations based on 0 political insight

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:44

Daz57 · 25/04/2024 21:42

She is stupid and lets herself down every time. Hopefully KS will pluck up the courage to get rid of her.

The reason KS wont get rid of this, open mouth and insult others is, he is too scared what the ultras left MP's will do and that is another fact

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ilovesooty · 25/04/2024 22:44

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:44

The reason KS wont get rid of this, open mouth and insult others is, he is too scared what the ultras left MP's will do and that is another fact

🤣🤣🤣

TheCatIsInCharge · 25/04/2024 22:45

Boris Johnson said that muslim women look like letter boxes. Do me a fucking favour?!!

JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 22:46

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:44

The reason KS wont get rid of this, open mouth and insult others is, he is too scared what the ultras left MP's will do and that is another fact

You probably missed my post pointing out that the deputy leader of the Labour party is an elected position voted on by the members, not a gift from the leader.
Are all your facts this accurate?
Are you Boris?

TheCatIsInCharge · 25/04/2024 22:47

Moier · 25/04/2024 09:38

Well she's not very intelligent in my opinion.
She's all ignorant and lacking interlect.

😂 right.

ilovesooty · 25/04/2024 22:47

JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 22:46

You probably missed my post pointing out that the deputy leader of the Labour party is an elected position voted on by the members, not a gift from the leader.
Are all your facts this accurate?
Are you Boris?

Edited

Exactly.

kittensinthekitchen · 25/04/2024 22:48

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator

So did you work for a circus?

TheCatIsInCharge · 25/04/2024 22:49

CountingCrones · 25/04/2024 09:45

Abhorrent? He’s short. So what?

The last prime minister was a shambling haystack - no, the last but one, I was forgetting the swivel-eyed loon who was outlasted by a lettuce - and the current one is short. It’s not polite to call him names about that, but since when has the HoC been polite?

It’s not ableist, for goodness sake.

This.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:49

JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 22:46

You probably missed my post pointing out that the deputy leader of the Labour party is an elected position voted on by the members, not a gift from the leader.
Are all your facts this accurate?
Are you Boris?

Edited

Just like the members made Corbyn the leader

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JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 22:50

kittensinthekitchen · 25/04/2024 22:48

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator

So did you work for a circus?

Clowns could also refer to working for CCHQ?

BIossomtoes · 25/04/2024 22:50

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:44

The reason KS wont get rid of this, open mouth and insult others is, he is too scared what the ultras left MP's will do and that is another fact

He can’t even if he wanted to. He didn’t appoint her and he can’t sack her. He’d be mad to anyway.

TheCatIsInCharge · 25/04/2024 22:51

Haydenn · 25/04/2024 09:47

You should know better than this. When someone on the right says something inappropriate then they should resign. When someone on the left says it people “struggle to get worked up” or “it’s always like that in the House of Commons”

If it’s the worst thing Raynor does this week though I’d be surprised….

I mean, it's better than making being homeless illegal, sending refugees to Rwanda, taking money away from disabled people and generally fucking up our education system & NHS. So no, really, I can't get worked up about it. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

therealcookiemonster · 25/04/2024 22:52

kittensinthekitchen · 25/04/2024 22:48

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator

So did you work for a circus?

come on kittens, stop making fun of the OP! surely you know that he can make a complaint about you to HR?

also working in circus is actually really hard....

leamington66 · 25/04/2024 22:52

Octonaut4Life · 25/04/2024 09:39

It's not appropriate but nor is any of the language or behavior by MPs and their mates. Check out what Lord Ashcroft said about Angela Rayner about a month ago - far worse than "pint sized" in my opinion...

Is Lord Ashcroft an MP?

ilovesooty · 25/04/2024 22:52

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:49

Just like the members made Corbyn the leader

Oh I see the point is sinking in, though Corbyn was rather a long time ago and irrelevant to this thread. The leader and deputy leader are indeed voted for by the party membership. Have a gold star.

TheCatIsInCharge · 25/04/2024 22:53

bombastix · 25/04/2024 09:59

The comment on Rayner the more I understand how much the Conservatives hate her. She is going to beat them. That is to me very funny. And this line which certainly amused a few Conservatives (you watch the faces) is pretty good evidence of her confidence.

True.

BIossomtoes · 25/04/2024 22:54

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:49

Just like the members made Corbyn the leader

Yes. Just like that.

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 22:54

Tory party members gave us Liz Lettuce...

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 22:55

leamington66 · 25/04/2024 22:52

Is Lord Ashcroft an MP?

Never heard of this bloke, is he a Green Party member

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TheCatIsInCharge · 25/04/2024 22:56

gal-dem.com/comprehensive-history-everything-boris-johnson-has-said/

There you go.
Stop being such hypocrites!