Male Nursery Staff

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My child is in Nursery after my return to work. They nursery chain have been hiring make staff recently. My child's nursery has 3 male staff.

My daughter's nappy was changed by a male member of staff. For my own personal reasons I feel upset about this but not sure if I can even say or do anything. I just don't like it.

Children at a very high risk in their home, with one or both parent too. Murder is one of the leading causes of death for children and the majority of those are killed by a family membee

Best to just let them all fend for themselves with no adults around

Any of us who think being male doesn't instantly make you a threat and who try to point out women aren't inherently safer will be labelled a man

It's the MN way. You're either their idea of a woman or your man

Why do you care? I've been asked if I'm a man myself. It makes no odds to me. I know my sex and I don't lose any sleep if strangers who see only my written word think I'm the opposite sex.

You're missing the point. On these threads, it's usually to sew doubt, accuse you of being here for nefarious reasons, that you're a lurking pervert etc
I couldn't give a toss if I'm called a man either, but the wider point is sailing over your head.

Because its absolutely ridiculous and quite demeaning to the actual women commenting to be told you must be a man due to your views.

You essentially are telling us we are "women womening wrong"

And as Goodnight says its usually used to dismiss or disparage posters. To claim their view should be ignored because its male and lesser or just trolling. Rather than a woman who had a proper view point (so long as it fits the narrative)

I don't see it that way. As I said before, men use MN. Some posters gravitate to threads where they percieve men may be under attack and spend a lot of energy in trying to persuade everyone that women are as bad as men, offering very pro male rights opinions, and often showing a very low level of tolerance to womens concerns. Its not such a huge leap to think it possible that some of these posters are men themselves, surely? If they're not and they care they only have to say so. The thing that I find more interesting is how few posters are actually declaring themselves as men on a thread about the type of issue that typically gets them into a bit of a tizzy.

You don't see it like that because you aren't the one being called a male in an attempt to silence them...

I don't see it that way

Well, you wouldn't, would you. As it's not happening to you you're blind to it.

Because in the UK in particular we have a press encouraged culture of there are pedos around every corner so men, like me, do tend to stay away from these conversations as we are scared that even having an opinion may lead us to be classed as a paedophile.

I even worry about calling my great niece pretty. Yesterday I walked past a senior school girl who was in tears....why because I don't want to be considered a risk, or to be grooming.

What a fucking shit world we live in when the op worries that someone changing a shitty nappy is having a hand shandy over it.😔

If that’s what the parents/guardians would prefer, then yes!

I've been asked if I'm a man. I'm typically assumed to be a woman. Only I know which is true, and people only know what i claim, so its all a bit meaningless. I've also had attempts made to silence me in other ways, I've been told I'm a misandrist, bitter, unable to see any view point but my own and called stupid. It's all water off a ducks back to me.

Good luck to them with that. The majority of nurseries and other early years settings such as Reception have very few men.

One of my dad's often repeated jokes is that statistics mean children should be brought up by lesbians they don't know.

Not necessarily. They are in a position of trust, midwives changed my newborn's nappies when I was incapable after giving birth.
Midwives also do lots of intimate care for women, potentially including underage teenage mums. It's not a suitable job for sex offender of any sort.

Sex offenders shouldn't be in any position of trust in the community even if there's no direct childcare. They can't be a cleaner or caretaker in a school for example.

Murder isn't even in the top 10 causes of child deaths. Why do people make this stuff up? The leading causes are cancer, genetic conditions, other diseases, accidents

Most children are not at any risk of murder at home. They are at risk of falling or drowning in the bath perhaps.

I find these threads so interesting. So many women entirely convinced that men are much, much better at caring for children than women - in fact, the very best nursery worker they've ever seen is a man! And the statistics about men abusing children aren't alarming, they can instance one woman who's been convicted so, you know. And it's literally the very worst kind of prejudice is linking the idea that predators seek out work in places that gives them access to their preferred victim group.

In my view, have all the suspicions you want about anyone, particularly men, who have access to your children and don't apologise for it ever.

What an interesting take.

So many women entirely convinced that men are much, much better at caring for children than women
Has anyone actually said that, as I don't think anyone has said anything of the sort?!
They've said men are just as capable of looking after children than women, that they can be just as good and caring, and that they've had good experiences/ lovely nursery key workers...

Yeah..um... a different one for sure.

You obviously don't understand "risk". Or the concept of relative risk. There's obviously no way to reduce the risk to zero.

Do you also think that because no car seat can prevent 100% of deaths resulting from road collisions, there's no point bothering with a car seat?

Or that because the batteries in a smoke alarm may fail, there's no point having a smoke alarm?

The risk of abuse of a child is only cared for by females is much lower than if they are only looked after by males. There may of course be other advantages of men being involved in childcare. It's a matter of weighing up the benefits, not just ignoring the issues because the risk will never be zero.

In my view, have all the suspicions you want about anyone, particularly men, who have access to your children and don't apologise for it ever

Of course, I agree here! I don't think anyone has said otherwise either? I certainly haven't anyway
If you've got doubts or suspicions on somebody, always go with your gut.
If you're basing that solely on the fact that they're a man, .... that's prejudice and discrimination and not OK. It's rightly not ok doing that if someone is Muslim, gay, or black, and it's not here either just because it might be someone you feel justified in discriminating against.

It really isn't. Men are far, far away the risk profile. By a staggering degree across religions, across cultures, across place and time. The most common factor in abuse of children maleness. Pretending that understanding this is unthinking and baseless prejudice is ridiculous.