Male Nursery Staff

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My child is in Nursery after my return to work. They nursery chain have been hiring make staff recently. My child's nursery has 3 male staff.

My daughter's nappy was changed by a male member of staff. For my own personal reasons I feel upset about this but not sure if I can even say or do anything. I just don't like it.

And access to females when you look at the hideous male behaviour happening towards them in these war torn situations.

You can spam the thread with statistics all you like, it doesn't change the fact that it is discrimination to discriminate against nursery workers /teachers based just on their sex.
If you don't want your kids around men, move nurseries or school.

Spamming with statistics? Bastard numbers and truth and reality 😁😁😁

I do agree though that the reasonable solution is for the op to move her child.

Have you verified your sources thoroughly is the site non biased or does it have a view to promote?

Oh, for crying out loud, those resources are only collated by a source you consider biased, did you read those studies?

Anyway, life invades. I'll leave you to it.

That is what wives of many peadophiles thought too.

Statistically a child is more likely to die at the hands of a woman than a man...

And lots of the time that woman is either their mother or a nurse...

But please keep saying women are safer for children to be around

the stats that you report here, don't support your assertions

nursery staff are 'someone that they know'

the rest of the figures don't address sex of abuser. but it makes total sense that the very rare sexual abuse in nurseries would be committed by females, because as you say, staff are overwhelmingly female. if you had more male staff then abuse numbers would increase. and if staff were 50/50 Mae/female then you would see 95% of abuse would be carried out by male staff. if staff were male then your abuse numbers would increase 1900%

(what is the source of your information? I tend to mistrust studies if the conclusions are prefaced by 'FACT', it tends to indicate none scientific)

Which tells you entirely about how much time women spend as mothers, childcare workers and paediatric nurses compared to men.

More children are killed by dogs than lions. Who would you rather leave your kid in a room with?

He broke my waters. He seemed a nice man to us and actually started my labour better than the female midwives did.

Which is not to say women are to dogs as men are to lions but that there is a risk of all humans hurting children but it's the ones who spend the most time with them who are more likely to harm them. What's remarkable is when that doesn't fit the pattern, with csa.

I agree. It frustrating but more than that, it's really concerning that people genuinely think women pose as much risk as men. men commit sexual violence 1900% more than women. but I think we have explained it in every way possible and people still think it's discrimination to not want men working with babies. I don't know if it's wilful misunderstanding...but WHY?

Well yes. That's why I said I'd significantly lowered the risk not eradicated it.

If you recognise the risk there though you should recognise how bonkers it is to increase that risk with multiple unknown males.

Some of my friends chose to only have mum change the nappy for a number of reasons safeguarding included. That's fine.

Some home educate to lower that risk. Again their choice.

At no point did I, or anyone say that risk assessment has to end in no risk. But low risk is the aim and males commit most sex offences. By limiting how many males provide intimate care you automatically lower that risk. No it's not zero, women can abuse. It's much lower numbers though so it's what I deem an acceptable amount of risk for the benefit of nursery in a verbal child.

This is a combination of me using national statistics to support my decision, personal circumstances and preferences. It's not the only way.

Obviously you can send your child to a nursery that employs numerous men. But statistically your child will be less safe than mine. That doesn't mean something will happen. It just means it's more likely.

All the wishy feels in the world aren't going to change the facts.
You do you though.

that is because it depends what study you look at. it ranges between ,80-98%. 95-98% being the most common

You now sound like you're complaining women spend more time doing childcare?

Dogs and lions are both dangerous and I wouldn't leave a child alone with either... (although I would think the dog is more likely to attack the child unprovoked)

Which tells you entirely about how much time women spend as mothers, childcare workers and paediatric nurses compared to men

Then when some men try to break away from that, and challenge stereotypes/want to make a difference to a child's life, they're treated with suspicion and that they must be paedos.
No wonder women do so much of the childcare when there's still some in society who can't comprehend men wanting to look after children too.

I'm not complaining? 😕 Why do you keep making this about feelings?
This is a statement of fact that women are the majority carers and professionals around children.

Jesus, I'm explaining. I couldn't give a shit about stereotypes. Children are better served being cared for by women from a purely statistical perspective.

Keep the women at home doing the childcare, as that's where they belong looking after the kids, as they're "caring."
Men wanting to help are potential paedos and should stick to the "man" stuff.
Are we in the 50s?!.
Some of these attitudes certainly are.

I don't know 🤷

not true about lions not attacking unprovoked either!!!! you seems determined to come to incorrect decisions regarding safety 🤣

Well, I said that children are at less risk being cared for by women. Can you explain how that statement is demonstrably false using actual statistics and not your hurt feelings?

My feelings aren't hurt though?!
I just think the attitude that women are the carers and should be at home looking after the children and men have no place looking after them in a professional setting as they are incapable or potential paedophiles is outdated and harmful.

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight

I think it’s right that there should be male nursery staff. I work in a nursery with one and he is great. Yes - he provides a good role model.

When it comes to changing children, he does so in the presence of others or will defer to a female member of staff.
I’ve also worked with male teachers in KS1 - but in all cases, they deferred to a female to change a child, or left the class if girls were changing for PE.
As a parent, probably based on my own experiences (growing up/as a teen) I would have not wanted an unknown male member of staff to change my child’s nappy. It would have influenced my childcare choice. I can understand the OP’s reservations and think she should have a choice - similar to requesting a female doctor for an intimate examination. Ideally I think it should be a key worker who you build a trusting relationship with.