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Right wing thugs 'protecting the flag' on St George's Day

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newnamethanks · 23/04/2024 22:41

Cruella's boot boys out on the street again protecting our British freedoms in their usual brutish fashion with violent disorder. She must feel very proud.

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Sofiabella · 02/05/2024 09:15

goodluckwiththat · 02/05/2024 07:15

Most of your comments on this thread.

Well that's an absolute cop out, could you back up your accusation please?

goodluckwiththat · 02/05/2024 15:07

Sofiabella · 02/05/2024 09:15

Well that's an absolute cop out, could you back up your accusation please?

Of course. Suggesting the abhorrent behaviour of a subsection of a race is inherent to that entire race, is racist.

Doing the same for the behaviours of a subsection of a culture or religion is equally bigoted.

HTH.

Sofiabella · 02/05/2024 16:47

I didn't do either of those things.
I said that it is ridiculous to blindly deny there is a cultural aspect to sexual assault in the cases where the "men" state that white women deserve to be raped.
You have accused me of saying that all black/brown/Muslim men behave this way, which is an outright and ridiculous lie.

EasternStandard · 02/05/2024 16:49

Sofiabella · 02/05/2024 16:47

I didn't do either of those things.
I said that it is ridiculous to blindly deny there is a cultural aspect to sexual assault in the cases where the "men" state that white women deserve to be raped.
You have accused me of saying that all black/brown/Muslim men behave this way, which is an outright and ridiculous lie.

I get the distinction and don’t think you’ve done the latter

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 08:20

Sofiabella · 01/05/2024 09:40

These "men" literally say they rape and attack white women because they're worthless and good for nothing but sex...how is there not a cultural or religious aspect to that?

Please can you link to a source where these men have been proved to have said that?
If you also have a source that shows that these men assaulted these girls because they were Muslim and the girls weren't then that would be very helpful as well

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 10:18

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 08:20

Please can you link to a source where these men have been proved to have said that?
If you also have a source that shows that these men assaulted these girls because they were Muslim and the girls weren't then that would be very helpful as well

Look up the Rochdale grooming scandals, survivors tell of being called "white slags" as gangs of Asian men raped them.
Look up the NYE attacks where gangs of Arab men hunted white women down, ripped their clothes off and penetrated them with their hands in full view of police.
Look up the white journalist who went into "the jungle" in Calais in order to interview those seeking asylum in the UK and was gang raped.

Just take off your liberal leftie blinkers and accept what is staring you in the face.

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 10:29

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 10:18

Look up the Rochdale grooming scandals, survivors tell of being called "white slags" as gangs of Asian men raped them.
Look up the NYE attacks where gangs of Arab men hunted white women down, ripped their clothes off and penetrated them with their hands in full view of police.
Look up the white journalist who went into "the jungle" in Calais in order to interview those seeking asylum in the UK and was gang raped.

Just take off your liberal leftie blinkers and accept what is staring you in the face.

So you dont have a legitimate source then?
As for me being a liberal lefty you have no idea what I am.
I know that men can treat women very badly and I know that some cultures are much more misogynistic than others BUT as I would rather walk past a mosque on a Friday afternoon that past that lot in the photo at the beginning of this thread.
I have been sexually assaulted, jeered at etc but 99% of the time it was by white men, despite me growing up and now living in multicultural areas.

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 11:41

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 10:29

So you dont have a legitimate source then?
As for me being a liberal lefty you have no idea what I am.
I know that men can treat women very badly and I know that some cultures are much more misogynistic than others BUT as I would rather walk past a mosque on a Friday afternoon that past that lot in the photo at the beginning of this thread.
I have been sexually assaulted, jeered at etc but 99% of the time it was by white men, despite me growing up and now living in multicultural areas.

Edited

So you're dismissing the experience of hundreds and hundreds of young girls as not legitimate while expecting me to take your experience as one woman as important evidence? Okay then 😬

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 11:53

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 11:41

So you're dismissing the experience of hundreds and hundreds of young girls as not legitimate while expecting me to take your experience as one woman as important evidence? Okay then 😬

Please can you point to the part where I dismiss anyones experience of male violence?

Idontfinkso · 03/05/2024 11:59

I’m not English. If you want your flag back from racist twats and right- wingers then you need to claim it. Starting with a national holiday - as the other nations have.

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 12:25

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 11:53

Please can you point to the part where I dismiss anyones experience of male violence?

I shared a direct quote from the victims that they were called "white slags" as they were raped.
You replied that this was not a legitimate source. Then went on to share your own experience as though this should hold more weight.

MarioIa · 03/05/2024 15:04

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 10:29

So you dont have a legitimate source then?
As for me being a liberal lefty you have no idea what I am.
I know that men can treat women very badly and I know that some cultures are much more misogynistic than others BUT as I would rather walk past a mosque on a Friday afternoon that past that lot in the photo at the beginning of this thread.
I have been sexually assaulted, jeered at etc but 99% of the time it was by white men, despite me growing up and now living in multicultural areas.

Edited

Here's a link.

The exact quote was: “All white women are only good for one thing. For men like me to fuck and use like trash. That’s all women like you are worth.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/09/newcastle-sex-grooming-network-operation-shelter

Eighteen people found guilty over Newcastle sex grooming network

Four trials find 17 men and one woman guilty of nearly 100 offences including rape and human trafficking of vulnerable women and girls

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/09/newcastle-sex-grooming-network-operation-shelter

goodluckwiththat · 03/05/2024 15:16

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 12:25

I shared a direct quote from the victims that they were called "white slags" as they were raped.
You replied that this was not a legitimate source. Then went on to share your own experience as though this should hold more weight.

But why are you taking the rantings of one rapist as indicative of the feelings of an entire culture / race / religion?

All white men aren't paedophiles because Gary Glitter and Jimmy Saville are.

Plenty of judges / defence barristers have called rape victims slags, albeit in less visceral language, but amounting to the same thing when they question what they’re wearing or how much they’ve drunk or that they willingly went back to hotel rooms etc. We don’t use those fuckwits as representative of all upper middle class white men, do we?

Are the exploits of Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein indicative of all rich white men being predators? They attacked multiple women over decades.

So why do you focus on the ramblings of a nasty Pakistani rapist?

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 15:51

goodluckwiththat · 03/05/2024 15:16

But why are you taking the rantings of one rapist as indicative of the feelings of an entire culture / race / religion?

All white men aren't paedophiles because Gary Glitter and Jimmy Saville are.

Plenty of judges / defence barristers have called rape victims slags, albeit in less visceral language, but amounting to the same thing when they question what they’re wearing or how much they’ve drunk or that they willingly went back to hotel rooms etc. We don’t use those fuckwits as representative of all upper middle class white men, do we?

Are the exploits of Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein indicative of all rich white men being predators? They attacked multiple women over decades.

So why do you focus on the ramblings of a nasty Pakistani rapist?

Why are you blindly pretending it was just one Pakistani man? You are living proof of why and how it was covered up for so long to protect the rapists and it's truly truly disgusting.

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 15:53

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 15:51

Why are you blindly pretending it was just one Pakistani man? You are living proof of why and how it was covered up for so long to protect the rapists and it's truly truly disgusting.

And who has said it's all black/brown/Asian/Muslims? Literally NOBODY has said that FFS, read the thread before you spout your PC bullshit.

goodluckwiththat · 03/05/2024 15:58

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 15:51

Why are you blindly pretending it was just one Pakistani man? You are living proof of why and how it was covered up for so long to protect the rapists and it's truly truly disgusting.

You said that the particular quote was evidence that all Pakistanis / Muslims (not quite sure group you were referring to with “men”) think that white woken are slags / deserve to be sexually assaulted.

I’m asking you why the crimes / words you reference are clear examples of widespread cultural deviance, but the crimes I mention are not.

The only difference I can see is the colour of their skin.

You can deflect all you want, but the fact you think Rotherham proves all Pakistanis are rapists but Jimmy Saville doesn’t prove all white men are paedophiles shows your true colours.

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Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 16:12

I'm going to give you a really really clear example that even you should be able to follow.

Male mental health and suicide is a real issue. But not every male is suicidal.

When a grooming gang of Asian men rape hundreds of white children and call them "worthless white slags" it is silly to claim this is not racially motivated. However not every Asian man is a racist child rapist.

Do you understand now?

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 16:17

Talking about low IQs in the same post as "Sure thing hun."

You know you're wrong, and you're a living example of why the police covered up the crimes for so long because leftist morons scream racism.

goodluckwiththat · 03/05/2024 16:18

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 16:17

Talking about low IQs in the same post as "Sure thing hun."

You know you're wrong, and you're a living example of why the police covered up the crimes for so long because leftist morons scream racism.

Aw, babes. You’re not very good at reading tone, either, are you?

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 16:19

And you know you're losing the argument which is why you're ignoring my points and resorting to attempting to patronise me and failing miserably.

goodluckwiththat · 03/05/2024 16:33

For some reason an image of an undercooked boiled ham just popped into my mind.

Hoppinggreen · 03/05/2024 16:38

Sofiabella · 03/05/2024 16:17

Talking about low IQs in the same post as "Sure thing hun."

You know you're wrong, and you're a living example of why the police covered up the crimes for so long because leftist morons scream racism.

With regards to The Police supposedly covering up these crimes due to not wanting to be accused of Racism are you saying that The Police don't arrest Asian men?
The woman who actually uncovered the Rotherham sex trafficking said the lack of Police action was down to attitudes around poor white working class girls rather than fear of arresting Asian men.
I condem these men absolutely and I do think that the misogyny in their cultures contributed BUT I abhor the attitude that Asian men are somehow more dangerous than white ones.

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