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Right wing thugs 'protecting the flag' on St George's Day

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newnamethanks · 23/04/2024 22:41

Cruella's boot boys out on the street again protecting our British freedoms in their usual brutish fashion with violent disorder. She must feel very proud.

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user411966691966 · 25/04/2024 16:42

The point is though that when they started pouring in from France on The Channel and we couldn't do anything about it, the numbers went through the roof. Before Brexit there was no use doing it because they'd be sent straight back. The channel crossings were barely an issue before Brexit.

@User135644
You are naive to state this. They used to smuggle themselves in lorries, but we changed the way we checked vehicles both here and in France and drivers were fined.

Why did they start pouring into France? The issue ramped up in 2015 when Angela Merkel accepted randoms with no checks and sent an invitation out that the EU (and ultimately the UK) will welcome with open arms. There's no borders in the EU, but I wont derail this St George's thread anymore.

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 16:43

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 16:38

It definitely wasn't small numbers but I'm glad we agree on the violent thugs part.

If that’s what you took from that … okay

MarioIa · 25/04/2024 16:45

The previous poster quoted a whole section about Muslim men when she had original said it’s black/brown men who commit far too much sexual violence. What she actually meant was Muslims which is a religion and not an ethnicity.

No, I quoted the victims who described the perpetrators as 'dark skinned' amongst other descriptions.

Why are you so desperate to sweep these sex crimes under the rug?

MarioIa · 25/04/2024 16:45

And are you suggesting that most Muslim men are actually light skinned/white?

MarioIa · 25/04/2024 16:47

And yet not a single reply to the inconvenient statistics I've posted....

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 16:50

MarioIa · 25/04/2024 16:41

I'm just providing data in support of my first point on this thread that it's a complex matter and xenophobia doesn't just happen in a vacuum, even if these movements no doubt do attract troublemakers and those just looking for a fight.

Hirsi-Ali (who lived in the Netherlands) mentions that only 55% of the immigrants arriving in the 90s were working 15 years later, despite the Dutch government spending upwards of 16 billion euros on integration programs.

Statistics like this are not going to endear them to the working class nationals in times of austerity and predictably it's this working class demographic that seems to be the most resistant to immigration.

Then when we add mass sexual assaults of thousands of women in one evening and a swathe of smaller but similar events coupled with the police and the left actively downplaying it, it's not particularly hard to see why some feel they should 'take matters into their own hands'.

I would never down play sexual assault - I worked for Rape Crisis for 20 years

but it’s not going to stop if we ban immigrants

AS can not legally work so maybe speed up the process

newnamethanks · 25/04/2024 16:50

Has Laurence Fox already been mentioned on here? The Laurence Fox who is going to have to fork out £138,000 in a libel award against him. That one. Mayoral candidate and potential Saviour of the Nation. Thanks judge,we all need a laugh.

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ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 16:51

MarioIa · 25/04/2024 16:47

And yet not a single reply to the inconvenient statistics I've posted....

I replied - you must have missed it

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 16:52

newnamethanks · 25/04/2024 16:50

Has Laurence Fox already been mentioned on here? The Laurence Fox who is going to have to fork out £138,000 in a libel award against him. That one. Mayoral candidate and potential Saviour of the Nation. Thanks judge,we all need a laugh.

Yes the working class hero !

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 16:56

@newnamethanks the discussion seems oddly to have been —derailed— side tracked into a discussion of BLM protests and sexual assault being an immigrant issue - odd that no one wants to discuss the behaviour of white right wing thugs without a whole lot of whataboutery - no idea why

Hoppinggreen · 25/04/2024 16:57

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 16:56

@newnamethanks the discussion seems oddly to have been —derailed— side tracked into a discussion of BLM protests and sexual assault being an immigrant issue - odd that no one wants to discuss the behaviour of white right wing thugs without a whole lot of whataboutery - no idea why

Yep
Deflection and attempts to distract from the issue being discussed.

EasternStandard · 25/04/2024 16:59

Hoppinggreen · 25/04/2024 16:57

Yep
Deflection and attempts to distract from the issue being discussed.

Someone asked for the stats

If it’s asked for no point complaining they’re posted

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 17:00

EasternStandard · 25/04/2024 16:59

Someone asked for the stats

If it’s asked for no point complaining they’re posted

Its not the stats they'd choose to believe. They'd rather stay willfully ignorant to the proof provided.

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 17:05

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 17:00

Its not the stats they'd choose to believe. They'd rather stay willfully ignorant to the proof provided.

Why are you ignoring the two posts responding to that? It’s not X - you can read the views of people outside your echo chamber

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 17:06

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 17:05

Why are you ignoring the two posts responding to that? It’s not X - you can read the views of people outside your echo chamber

Have you replied to every single comment on this thread? No, you've chosen the ones you wish to interact with. That's the point of a forum.

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 17:07

EasternStandard · 25/04/2024 16:59

Someone asked for the stats

If it’s asked for no point complaining they’re posted

Apparently I asked for stats - I mean I didn’t but I guess someone may have

people have responded to them

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 17:08

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 17:06

Have you replied to every single comment on this thread? No, you've chosen the ones you wish to interact with. That's the point of a forum.

But you are saying people didn’t respond/ ignored the stats and that is a lie isn’t it - like the one saying I asked for them?

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 17:12

I still don’t understand why, when discussing the specific behaviour of white right wing thugs black people even need to be dragged into it - very odd

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 17:12

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 17:08

But you are saying people didn’t respond/ ignored the stats and that is a lie isn’t it - like the one saying I asked for them?

I never said you asked for them, sorry I don't police others on this thread or report comments I don't like.
And I said you and others would prefer to be wilfully ignorant than accept that black/brown men commit a disproportionately large percentage of sexual crimes.
Stand by everything I've said.

Hoppinggreen · 25/04/2024 17:18

EasternStandard · 25/04/2024 16:59

Someone asked for the stats

If it’s asked for no point complaining they’re posted

I wasnt talking about Stats, I was talking about the way that a thread talking about a specific group of people behaving in a specifc way turned into a list of things brown and black people do thats bad.
The people in the photo that was the start of the thread were white, attempts to divert the discussion in to a list of the faults of non white people were pretty blatant

Newcex · 25/04/2024 17:29

"Gammon" would that be used for a Muslim? Or is that racist and offensive?

RidgeBBQ · 25/04/2024 17:32

Hoppinggreen · 25/04/2024 17:18

I wasnt talking about Stats, I was talking about the way that a thread talking about a specific group of people behaving in a specifc way turned into a list of things brown and black people do thats bad.
The people in the photo that was the start of the thread were white, attempts to divert the discussion in to a list of the faults of non white people were pretty blatant

turned into a list of things brown and black people do thats bad.
The people in the photo that was the start of the thread were white, attempts to divert the discussion in to a list of the faults of non white people were pretty blatant

So true. Depressing as hell.

ghostyslovesheets · 25/04/2024 17:32

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 17:12

I never said you asked for them, sorry I don't police others on this thread or report comments I don't like.
And I said you and others would prefer to be wilfully ignorant than accept that black/brown men commit a disproportionately large percentage of sexual crimes.
Stand by everything I've said.

Ah so again you missed that I responded to the stats point - I await your apology

Sofiabella · 25/04/2024 17:33

Newcex · 25/04/2024 17:29

"Gammon" would that be used for a Muslim? Or is that racist and offensive?

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Someone up thread referred to white men as a collective as "fat, balding, ruddy faced and subpar in bed."
Not a whisper from the liberals.
The double standards are - as always - astounding.

RidgeBBQ · 25/04/2024 17:34

Newcex · 25/04/2024 17:29

"Gammon" would that be used for a Muslim? Or is that racist and offensive?

Edited

Do you know that white people can be muslim? Just checking.