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Re my parents and childcare

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Theroadnottravelled · 21/04/2024 19:30

I think I’m going to get blasted for this but my lovely parents are being frustrating imo. Me and DH moved from London to the south coast to be near them. We have 2 girls, 2 and 4. Both in nursery 4 days a week as we both work FT. My parents do a day for us, have done for a year. They offered and I’d never expect more. I am grateful. My dad has now said it’s too tiring for them to do all day so will do half. So we have no cover and can’t really afford more nursery. We get by but I felt that as there are two of them, almost 70 but very fit, play golf most weeks and are very active that it’s disappointing they won’t do the whole day once a week plus DD1 goes to school in sept.

OP posts:
jannier · 24/04/2024 17:06

Iwasafool · 24/04/2024 14:41

How did I get to 70 and not know that going to the loo was different if you are 70.

So you're a 70 year old who can run up and down the stairs like a 20 something with no bladder issues despite that too being a known complication of aging a true specimen of uniqueness.

ClareBlue · 24/04/2024 17:11

Theroadnottravelled · 22/04/2024 19:19

I feel we may have strayed from my point somewhat. I wouldn’t deny my parents anything and do help them where I can. We’re a family. But it does raise something else. The sense of a village when raising kids. To me, that includes extended family. Their help is so important but most seem to think going it alone is better, to not be a burden even if struggling. This thread has made me a bit sad tbh.

How were you brought up. Did the village nurture you whilst your mum commuted to a stressful long hours city job to earn enough to house your family. And how much do you contribute to the village between the commutes and stress.

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 17:18

jannier · 24/04/2024 16:07

I haven't told my 30 year old all my health issues I haven't told them about my knee locking like it's dislocated and the agony it can be to straighten it or my fingers no longer bending without me clicking them straight in the morning....why would I need to burden them with their dad's aortic aneurysm until we need to?
Why do you assume the ops parents are not the same? They have said it's too much should they produce a GP letter to confirm it?

No we don't discuss our health issues either. Why burden them.

jannier · 24/04/2024 17:20

App13 · 24/04/2024 16:07

Paying for nursery for 4 full days for 2 children is crippling. For most people. I do it for 1 dc and that amounts to £1800 a month- boom.

Not sucking it up until September, Im afraid is selfish. Especially if per OP's admission they are very fit and very active.

My mother is 73, a widower and she minds my 2 yr old toddler a whole day , other 4 days shes at nursery. She does this because I have no cover whatsoever and cant afford to pay £2166 for 5 full days. My mother isnt very fit or very active, shes just ok. And she certainly doesnt play golf:)

She keeps dd safe. clean and fed and watered. they dont leave the house for the day most times.

This is why I think its selfish. OP cant afford to put both of them in nursery for an additional day.

But you decided to have 2 children did you not look at costs first? Was the plan always to use mum regardless of her health?

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 17:23

A compromise would be for the grandparents to pay for that extra day. If their income allows

jannier · 24/04/2024 17:24

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 17:18

No we don't discuss our health issues either. Why burden them.

Exactly so if the op is told it's too much for us the immediate thought should be about what is happening about their health not omg the selfish T...S now I've got to pay....that is very selfish

JMSA · 24/04/2024 17:26

Comedycook · 21/04/2024 19:42

So we have no cover and can’t really afford more nursery

What would you do if your parents weren't around at all?

Or if they still lived in London Confused

JMSA · 24/04/2024 17:37

femfemlicious · 22/04/2024 05:59

Literally beg them to do it till September. Explain your financial situation. If they understand they are likely to continue or pay for it

Why the bloody hell should they pay for it?!

JMSA · 24/04/2024 17:38

I do hope you get it sorted though, OP. I understand that it's stressful and expensive.

jannier · 24/04/2024 17:48

Iwasafool · 24/04/2024 14:48

You do realise that there is a wide range of health among people of all ages? My husband was told he would be disabled and unable to work for the rest of his life in his 40s when our baby was 10 days old. His ability to care for a young child was to do with his disability not his age. I'm fitter and more able to care for a young child at 70 than he was at 40.

This site is so ageist.

With national statistics showing health by age reporting that prior to COVID 40% of 65 plus people were living with limiting health conditions it's not agest but fact to say health deteriorates with age....there are no stats on stamina but it's known ill people in general have lower stamina than when healthy.
Yes we all know stubborn older people who refuse to admit it and carry on even if they can't manage, but no caring adult would coerce their parents to risk their health and the safety of the child to save money.

jannier · 24/04/2024 17:59

Iwasafool · 24/04/2024 14:45

Well having a 2 year old in a buggy and a 4 year old you can't trust in reins isn't something that just applies to 70 year olds. I used both 50 years ago. Do you just let 2 year old run down the road? How dangerous. If that's what people do no wonder they can't cope.

I'm saying being nearly 70 doesn't mean you can't care for a child, if you don't want to then don't but don't blame it on age as plenty of us can do it and want to do it. Some people might not want to do it at 50, others are happy at 70 it isn't all down to age.

No you use reins on the 2 year old. Child development has come on a long way in 50 years.
I'm saying you can't say just because I'm Dorian Grey no other person ages either....look at the national statistics for Health ....your lucky not everyone is....all my kids grandparents were dead before 70, I bet they were just selfish in not doing childcare until the last day.
Empathy is a quality many should practice rather than saying I'm okay so everyone else must be lazy and selfish.

jerkchicken · 24/04/2024 18:06

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 17:23

A compromise would be for the grandparents to pay for that extra day. If their income allows

Why?

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 18:08

jerkchicken · 24/04/2024 18:06

Why?

Love.

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 18:23

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 18:08

Love.

No, greed on the part of the grandchildrens' parents.

jerkchicken · 24/04/2024 18:30

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 18:23

No, greed on the part of the grandchildrens' parents.

It seems this “love” only goes in one direction…. not a bit of love, consideration or empathy for the grandparents!

notacooldad · 24/04/2024 18:54

My mother is 73, a widower and she minds my 2 yr old toddler a whole day , other 4 days shes at nursery. She does this because I have no cover whatsoever and cant afford to pay £2166 for 5 full days. My mother isnt very fit or very active, shes just ok. And she certainly doesnt play golf:)
So what are you doing to do if your mum has a stroke heart attack or dies suddenly?

Kitkat1523 · 24/04/2024 21:03

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 17:23

A compromise would be for the grandparents to pay for that extra day. If their income allows

Nah…..that would just make OP a greedy twat…..you sort out your own childcare …..and if that means paying for it then so be it…..you don’t leech off people🙄

RememberTheTorch · 24/04/2024 22:24

App13 · 24/04/2024 15:20

OP is talking about HER very own parents, not yours , not mine.

She is in good stead to comment on her parents as she has done. And from which it has been inferred they are colossally selfish.

I'm not inferring anything. All we have is OP's assessment of them. I think her parents know themselves and their capabilities even better than she does. It's also possible OP is not aware of all their personal details and issues. Even if she thinks she is.

RememberTheTorch · 24/04/2024 22:28

jannier · 24/04/2024 16:07

I haven't told my 30 year old all my health issues I haven't told them about my knee locking like it's dislocated and the agony it can be to straighten it or my fingers no longer bending without me clicking them straight in the morning....why would I need to burden them with their dad's aortic aneurysm until we need to?
Why do you assume the ops parents are not the same? They have said it's too much should they produce a GP letter to confirm it?

I knew all about my father's aortic aneurysm (now fixed). It's important family medical history and I appreciated being able to support him at the time. Just hearing how his appointments went really.

RememberTheTorch · 24/04/2024 22:31

App13 · 24/04/2024 16:07

Paying for nursery for 4 full days for 2 children is crippling. For most people. I do it for 1 dc and that amounts to £1800 a month- boom.

Not sucking it up until September, Im afraid is selfish. Especially if per OP's admission they are very fit and very active.

My mother is 73, a widower and she minds my 2 yr old toddler a whole day , other 4 days shes at nursery. She does this because I have no cover whatsoever and cant afford to pay £2166 for 5 full days. My mother isnt very fit or very active, shes just ok. And she certainly doesnt play golf:)

She keeps dd safe. clean and fed and watered. they dont leave the house for the day most times.

This is why I think its selfish. OP cant afford to put both of them in nursery for an additional day.

That's not her parent's issue to resolve. They took care of the care of their children, OP takes care of the care of hers. If she's very lucky, she has help available. She doesn't because they're not capable. If you can't afford childcare, you consider having a SAHP for a bit (even if it's tighter and you can't afford as much) or you find work that fits with your life. I doubt she gave her parents a say in whether these children were born, so they aren't their responsibility.

GLo1971 · 25/04/2024 00:08

I think your parents maybe got caught up in the excitement of you moving and thought looking after the grandchildren was going to be a bit of a fairytale experience. They probably feel terrible at having to say they can't manage. I think it is understandable for you to feel a bit disappointed. The offer came from them and you worked your jobs and move around that. Of course you care about your parents, but it has kind of knocked you off balance financially as well as everything else. Ignore the haters out there. They will pick at any tiny detail to cause an argument. I am a parent and grandparent. Maybe when one of the children goes to school you could maybe ask if they would be willing to try again, the one day a week. You can only ask and see what they say.

jannier · 25/04/2024 14:20

RememberTheTorch · 24/04/2024 22:28

I knew all about my father's aortic aneurysm (now fixed). It's important family medical history and I appreciated being able to support him at the time. Just hearing how his appointments went really.

They will be told when we have a date and in time for themselves to be checked but I'm not making them stressed for weeks before

Charlie2121 · 25/04/2024 18:04

justasking111 · 24/04/2024 18:08

Love.

I’d be both ashamed and embarrassed to ask a relative to fund my childcare.

RememberTheTorch · 25/04/2024 23:01

jannier · 25/04/2024 14:20

They will be told when we have a date and in time for themselves to be checked but I'm not making them stressed for weeks before

I can't say I ever found it stressful. I knew the risk was low, even if there. I'm glad my parents told me so I could hear over the following years how my father was going and share with him. But I know not everyone is as open with their medical things, and that's up to each patient obviously. I just don't see why your children would be particularly stressed by it. Not criticising your choice, because that's personal, but I'd have been disappointed to not be able to support my father, even if it was just listening to progress updates.

jannier · 25/04/2024 23:04

RememberTheTorch · 25/04/2024 23:01

I can't say I ever found it stressful. I knew the risk was low, even if there. I'm glad my parents told me so I could hear over the following years how my father was going and share with him. But I know not everyone is as open with their medical things, and that's up to each patient obviously. I just don't see why your children would be particularly stressed by it. Not criticising your choice, because that's personal, but I'd have been disappointed to not be able to support my father, even if it was just listening to progress updates.

Mil died on table, her mother ruptured in her kitchen so it's not straight forward

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