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Radical Feminsts

351 replies

sticksstones · 19/04/2024 14:20

AIBU in noticing a increase in radical feminism on MN?

I'm not talking regular old feminism where equal rights are the goal, I'm sure we can all agree on that being important.

But there is a level of extremism emerging that goes from dizzying entitlement to outright man hating.

What gives?

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 19/04/2024 18:07

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 18:02

In the nineties Yorkie was specifically not for girls. Has that changed and can feminists have them now?

Guessing op forgot the bags for life and is having to precariously balance our snacks across the car park.

Either that or op is a flake. (Or 99s as they were known in my day before col crisis!)

Why were they called 99s? They didn't cost 99p.

"D'you want a flake in that, luv?" is still a catch phrase in our house, since the fabulous Boddingtons ad of the ?1980s. Youngsters, look it up & thank me later.

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 18:10

A small five cream with a flake cost 99p in my day. Obviously this dates me. Carbon dates me.

kkloo · 19/04/2024 18:11

You ask what gives?
What do you think gives?

Why do you think you're seeing this increase? and why do you think some women are being more vocal about this and why are some women being more honest about this?

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 18:20

What gives?
Well, women are not being given Milk Tray these days. We've swapped Milk Tray and a bunch of flowers for stupid things like maternity leave and bank accounts. Naturally this makes us ladies very angry.

Hence the radicalness. That's why we're so grateful for op volunteering to do the sweetie run.

Lion400 · 19/04/2024 18:59

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 18:20

What gives?
Well, women are not being given Milk Tray these days. We've swapped Milk Tray and a bunch of flowers for stupid things like maternity leave and bank accounts. Naturally this makes us ladies very angry.

Hence the radicalness. That's why we're so grateful for op volunteering to do the sweetie run.

You might not believe this, I could hardly believe it myself. But last month we had a box of cadburys milktray. Incredible. I even found the old ads on line to show our daughters. They found them hilarious.
We have very intense lives.

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 19:11

Don’t forget ‘men can’t help acting on impulse’ because our body spray made them do it!

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 19:21

Lion400 · 19/04/2024 18:59

You might not believe this, I could hardly believe it myself. But last month we had a box of cadburys milktray. Incredible. I even found the old ads on line to show our daughters. They found them hilarious.
We have very intense lives.

Well the lady does love Milk Tray.

Myself I like a Crunchie on a Friday. Got that Friday feeling. I assume op hasn't come back because I keep adding to the order. Can't wait for the return. I expect Cadbury will see a huge boost in their profits this week.

Lion400 · 19/04/2024 19:22

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 19:11

Don’t forget ‘men can’t help acting on impulse’ because our body spray made them do it!

Oh yes! And the men who put themselves in danger all because the lady loves milk tray.

Lion400 · 19/04/2024 19:23

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 19:21

Well the lady does love Milk Tray.

Myself I like a Crunchie on a Friday. Got that Friday feeling. I assume op hasn't come back because I keep adding to the order. Can't wait for the return. I expect Cadbury will see a huge boost in their profits this week.

😂

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 19:46

I now feel like I want to write a 'Trapped in the Closet' style song about Ops escapades.

What bother and what strife
Forgot my bags for life
Stacked the rad fems snacks up so nice
Even the awkwardly shaped white mice
Oh god, what the hell is this
The Yorkie took a tumble
Fuck that was for Bumble
Now it's all falling on the floor
I'm scrabbling around, shit the Smarties bag just tore.
Oh, shit, fucking hell, balls
I'll disappoint those radicals...

In my minds eye this is definitely happening

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 19:48

@BabbityBumble that's fab

MeMyselfAndMyEye · 19/04/2024 19:48

TheShellBeach · 19/04/2024 17:26

I've actually found Smarties in my bra before now.

Me too! And not in a Holywood romcom way, more like a scene from Miranda.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 19/04/2024 20:23

Online echo chambers + lack of critical thinking = radicalisation.

kkloo · 19/04/2024 20:27

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 19/04/2024 20:23

Online echo chambers + lack of critical thinking = radicalisation.

I'd say with a lot of current issues it's more like
Critical thinking + attempts by others to shut down that critical thinking = radicalization

Gender ideology for one.

People try to express fears related to say rapists with penises going into womens jails, they are shut down with PC nonsense, it's incredibly frustrating and infuriating so that leads to radicalization.

JupiterBlue · 19/04/2024 20:28

Maybe you should go to a male dominated forum and see the wonderful gender equality going on there. I am sure you police those forums too.

Judellie · 19/04/2024 20:29

There's nothing as good as a Cadbury Buttons Easter egg. Wish they were in the shops all year round. You (I) can get them from Amazon all year round now of course.
I'll have a Yorkie too please, ideally a raisin and biscuit one.

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 20:30

MeMyselfAndMyEye · 19/04/2024 19:48

Me too! And not in a Holywood romcom way, more like a scene from Miranda.

How would it work in a Hollywood romcom?

Jen Aniston it getting passionate with her fiancé, Mathew McConaughey when Smarties tumble from her bra - puzzled he flashes back to a scene earlier when he was talking to neighbour Vince Vaughn, OMG what was he eating? SMARTIES - leading to a hilarious series of misunderstandings

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 20:31

I'll have a Yorkie too please, ideally a raisin and biscuit one.
🤮
Imo anyone who voluntarily has raisins in anything after 1940 should be on some kind of watch list. Especially if you try and sneak them in where chocolate chips should be.

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 20:34

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 20:30

How would it work in a Hollywood romcom?

Jen Aniston it getting passionate with her fiancé, Mathew McConaughey when Smarties tumble from her bra - puzzled he flashes back to a scene earlier when he was talking to neighbour Vince Vaughn, OMG what was he eating? SMARTIES - leading to a hilarious series of misunderstandings

Maybe she just puts certain colours in there like J Lo and the MMs. She's a wedding planner in it. It may be called the wedding planner? She gets a shoe caught in a drain and cops off with a doctor?

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 20:37

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 20:34

Maybe she just puts certain colours in there like J Lo and the MMs. She's a wedding planner in it. It may be called the wedding planner? She gets a shoe caught in a drain and cops off with a doctor?

and both female leads realise men a daft and run of together to form a rad fem commune and eat Smarties?

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 20:40

Yeah, perhaps they have a wedding cake with 'Women Rule, Men Drool' spelled out in Smarties.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/04/2024 20:47

sticksstones · 19/04/2024 15:22

Examples of man hating on MN:

'I don't like men either, and I find this quite hard to reconcile with my conscience, because I have a son who I adore, and I'd cut off any man that said he "didn't like women" - it would be the biggest red flag ever to me, so I don't know why I hate sexism so much but am fine with Misandry'

'They're only any good for shagging really. Warmer than a vibrator. I prefer the company of women, prefer working with women, and most definitely prefer living with women.'

'I don’t like men, even though I’m married to one. I find them pathetically base, like they’re somehow less evolved than us. I don’t like feeling that way, because I know it’s not quite fair, especially now that I have a son, but I don’t know how to overcome it.AllI can do is try not to show it.'

More to follow, I'm just nipping out.

I've not joined that long ago but I felt it was just me noticing hatred like that.

I initiated a thread about the ever s0 easy attitude of leave the other half, often/99% of the time a man - mums netters say "leave the bastard/bitch" aka "LTB" which I had to ask about, ie what the LTB stood for.

fedupandstuck · 19/04/2024 20:58

I wish that misogynist men who hate women, hated them in the way that those posters apparently "hate" men. There would be a lot fewer violent attacks and sexual assaults on women for a start.

And MN has been advising women to LTB for a very long time now, it's not a recent change. In nearly all cases it's reasonable advice, and often other posters give different advice if the OP doesn't want to LTB. Because MN is not a hive mind, funnily enough.

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 21:04

To be honest the last few threads I've seen where ltb was employed were:

Someone whose husband tried to make her cover up if she didn't want sex and tracked her movements, accused her of cheating, sexually assaulted her while she slept so she had to sleep separately.

The ltb was nearly unanimous and warranted.

The other was someone's husband had eaten all the posh Penguins in the biscuit tin. The ltb was again unanimous. Very clearly a joke though.

That tends to be the two main ways ltb comes up, so people who complain about it I assume have no boundaries or no sense of humour.

JWhipple · 19/04/2024 21:07

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 14:46

I don't know much about radical feminism but I do like fluffy kittens.
Perhaps op, you could help by bullet pointing what you perceive to be problematic radical feminism and we can try and use our collective pink lady hive mind to understand. (Everyone, stop thinking about lipstick and prams and concentrate).
Go on op. Dazzle.me.

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