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Radical Feminsts

351 replies

sticksstones · 19/04/2024 14:20

AIBU in noticing a increase in radical feminism on MN?

I'm not talking regular old feminism where equal rights are the goal, I'm sure we can all agree on that being important.

But there is a level of extremism emerging that goes from dizzying entitlement to outright man hating.

What gives?

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therealcookiemonster · 19/04/2024 21:09

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 21:04

To be honest the last few threads I've seen where ltb was employed were:

Someone whose husband tried to make her cover up if she didn't want sex and tracked her movements, accused her of cheating, sexually assaulted her while she slept so she had to sleep separately.

The ltb was nearly unanimous and warranted.

The other was someone's husband had eaten all the posh Penguins in the biscuit tin. The ltb was again unanimous. Very clearly a joke though.

That tends to be the two main ways ltb comes up, so people who complain about it I assume have no boundaries or no sense of humour.

I'm sorry but men who eat their wives chocolates/food are abhorrent. I have never dated anyone who doesn't safeguard my food and also buys/makes me more food. mainly cookies.

therealcookiemonster · 19/04/2024 21:10

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 19:11

Don’t forget ‘men can’t help acting on impulse’ because our body spray made them do it!

if the ads are anything to go by, lynx body spray turn all women into nymphomaniacs

my radical feminism clearly acts as a shield as I tend to get a massive ick when faced with overly scented gentlemen

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 21:23

therealcookiemonster · 19/04/2024 21:09

I'm sorry but men who eat their wives chocolates/food are abhorrent. I have never dated anyone who doesn't safeguard my food and also buys/makes me more food. mainly cookies.

Episode 9 Joey GIF by Friends

Yes, no one's getting near my food. Especially not dh. One time in 2010 he helped himself to my chips. It still gets brought up on his annual review and does effect his husband credit score.

therealcookiemonster · 19/04/2024 21:31

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 21:23

Yes, no one's getting near my food. Especially not dh. One time in 2010 he helped himself to my chips. It still gets brought up on his annual review and does effect his husband credit score.

as it should. if you stop reminding him, he might do it again and then you would have to Bury him under a new patio. too much work.

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 21:33

Yeah, but obviously I'd make him dig it and buy the slabs first.

BlackForestCake · 19/04/2024 22:03

Dear Mumsnet, today I went out wearing my new Impulse body spray. I was just about to cross the road when a man I'd never met before suddenly appeared and tried to give me flowers. I told the creepy weirdo to fuck off. He seemed bemused. AIBU?

fromaytobe · 19/04/2024 22:17

EmilyTjP · 19/04/2024 15:34

Ooh OP you’ve poked the wasps nest 😂

I understand what you mean though. Some very scary attitudes displayed on mumsnet.

What - the attitudes of women no longer prepared to be treated like lower class citizens by men?

Dear me, whatever is the world coming to?

TheShellBeach · 19/04/2024 22:43

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 20:37

and both female leads realise men a daft and run of together to form a rad fem commune and eat Smarties?

I'd definitely join that.

TheShellBeach · 19/04/2024 23:00

So the OP never came back with the chocolate?

Or my bottle of sherry?

Huh.

VestaTilley · 19/04/2024 23:09

Radical feminism does not equal man hating.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:37

VestaTilley · 19/04/2024 23:09

Radical feminism does not equal man hating.

Ok if you say so, but there's a damn fine overlap though.

therealcookiemonster · 19/04/2024 23:53

BlackForestCake · 19/04/2024 22:03

Dear Mumsnet, today I went out wearing my new Impulse body spray. I was just about to cross the road when a man I'd never met before suddenly appeared and tried to give me flowers. I told the creepy weirdo to fuck off. He seemed bemused. AIBU?

YABVVVU you should have lied down right there and let him take you

TheShellBeach · 20/04/2024 00:00

Does anyone know if Caramilk tastes like Caramac?

Asking for a friend, obv.

TheShellBeach · 20/04/2024 00:01

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:37

Ok if you say so, but there's a damn fine overlap though.

Oh no there isn't.
I'm a rad fem and I don't hate men.
I bet most of us don't.

DrSpartacular · 20/04/2024 00:14

For the poster who earlier made erroneous claims about radical feminism and biological essentialism. This might be helpful.

Radical Feminsts
SnakesAndArrows · 20/04/2024 07:44

TheShellBeach · 20/04/2024 00:00

Does anyone know if Caramilk tastes like Caramac?

Asking for a friend, obv.

I haven’t done a taste test, but I’d say it’s close enough.

Asda do a Specially Selected (or whatever their posh range is called) version which is quite nice.

RedToothBrush · 20/04/2024 07:54

Gonna say this now.

I've just read Hilary Cass's interview in the Times about the response to the report.

There's something glaring about it. There is a clear issue with activist groups. Reading the article Cass makes it very clear that it's associated with the disinformation around the report and her clinical decision to leave out research papers which were substandard and not up to minimum standards to be deemed unbiased and lead her to state that care for children who were identifying as trans is extremely poor and not evidence based.

Throughout this, the underlying desire for gender critical activist groups and on MN in particular has been about the fact that decision making has been based on faith and not evidence lead. The push here has always been centred on the concept and issue surrounding the dismissal of evidence.

As we go forward it's going to become much clearer that we are dealing with extremists who have done everything they can to suppress this evidence and have deliberately acted in a way to intimidate and to abuse women and MNetters in particular.

So the natural path forward is to now smear MNetters as extremists too.

The OP referenced a point made in Jan 23 - which said in essence 'We don't want to become violent like men - look at the stats of male violence. We are better than that. Society should be better than that. Violence is the problem and we should address male violence'.

The OP is not picking up something that's a) a recent trend. It was a comment over a year ago b) not part of a trend c) is completely misrepresented and is just more deliberate disinformation about what is talked about on MN.

The evidence, which you can search, is there for all to read.

The OP is disengenous and malign and has malicious intent. Its not within the spirit of MN. I did report this thread and quite frankly I'm staggered it was allowed to stand.

TeaandChoc222 · 20/04/2024 08:15

ThreeEggOmlette · 19/04/2024 15:03

You will indeed find misandrists out there, trotting out ugly gems like: 'is it a girl or an abortion' but I have NEVER seen one of these loons on MN.

They tend to hang out on twiX with the other extreme crazies.

Interested for the upcoming examples though.

Oh I have. The post where the op was going to abort if a boy on the basis that he might ultimately become a misogynist street thug.

popebishop · 20/04/2024 08:23

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:37

Ok if you say so, but there's a damn fine overlap though.

How have you reached this conclusion? Is it in the same way that racists do, by seeing a handful of individuals, out of millions, that happen to act in a way that could be interpreted as having the hypothesised characteristic?

Theuglynaillady · 20/04/2024 09:21

BabbityBumble · 19/04/2024 21:33

Yeah, but obviously I'd make him dig it and buy the slabs first.

But do you actually NEED a new patio? Its only a bargain (energy saving wise [him digging it]) if you actually need it.

BabbityBumble · 20/04/2024 10:02

Come to think of it no, maybe I'll make it a long term pool complex project. That's plenty of time to prove he won't steal my chips or find some nice tiling to cover him.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 20/04/2024 10:04

TeaandChoc222 · 20/04/2024 08:15

Oh I have. The post where the op was going to abort if a boy on the basis that he might ultimately become a misogynist street thug.

Incredible!!!

BabbityBumble · 20/04/2024 10:04

TeaandChoc222 · 20/04/2024 08:15

Oh I have. The post where the op was going to abort if a boy on the basis that he might ultimately become a misogynist street thug.

Yes, that one totally real on an anonymous website is far more concerning than whole countries and cultures that routinely abort and murder unwanted girls.

Also, not a British example as parents don't find the sex till week 20. No one is going to give birth to a twenty week fetus because it's got a willy. Giving birth is a tad uncomfortable you know.

RedToothBrush · 20/04/2024 10:14

BabbityBumble · 20/04/2024 10:04

Yes, that one totally real on an anonymous website is far more concerning than whole countries and cultures that routinely abort and murder unwanted girls.

Also, not a British example as parents don't find the sex till week 20. No one is going to give birth to a twenty week fetus because it's got a willy. Giving birth is a tad uncomfortable you know.

We've just got a whole scandal where one of the findings identifies that some parents have been unnecessarily medicalising their child for 'being the wrong sex', which radical feminists have opposed and been vilified for doing so as 'extremists'.

Yet we are somehow supposed to be outraged by isolated posts which we don't know the legitimacy or the intent of the anonymous poster.

Yep. MN is the source of all known evil and sexism.

SnakesAndArrows · 20/04/2024 10:19

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 20/04/2024 10:04

Incredible!!!

Literally.