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Gynaecologist remark to DH

432 replies

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 14:19

in response to my dh saying he wanted me to have an MRI so he could stop worrying about me “I get it mate, you want to trade her in for a younger model’. We were both 😲

male, 60s and also an oncologist as this was a post-cancer appointment. Im
53 btw.

I feel equally humiliated and outraged
as well as lost for words. It was a quip and I’m sure many will say it’s harmless but I think it speaks to the culture of misogyny in the NHS. For context, I requested an appointment in regards to on-going pain from a serious post-surgery infection.

OP posts:
PissOffCancer · 19/04/2024 17:55

BeaRF75 · 19/04/2024 14:49

Just playing devil's advocate, maybe seeing a husband present means that a doctor assumes that they are a very "traditional" couple? I can't imagine ever choosing to take my husband with me to an appointment, even though he is medically qualified - I would want to be treated as the competent, independent person that I am.
But, yes, everyone is different...

I am a confident and independent person. My husband has been with me for most of my cancer appointments. I wouldn’t have got through this far without him. You are very lucky to have no idea what it is like to be taken into a room and be told the words, you have cancer.

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 17:55

Thank you all for the replies and the support 🌺.
For those who don’t believe me, sadly it’s true.

OP posts:
Newsenmum · 19/04/2024 17:56

There are some seriously weird posters on here. Sad that some women wouldn’t be able to go into such a scary and serious thing with their husbands.

Diamond007D · 19/04/2024 17:57

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

🙄

PinkyFlamingo · 19/04/2024 17:59

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

Eh? Why shouldn't she have her husband with her at her appointment, what a strange remark!

nothingcomestonothing · 19/04/2024 18:00

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 17:41

I’m sorry you doubt me- see below. I wasn’t examined and if I was then a nurse would have been called

I'm sorry it sounded like I was nitpicking, I work in a related field and was trying to make sense of what happened with my work head on. Every part of this sounds so far from standard practice I was thinking out loud, I'm sorry.

A medic has even less excuse to be so completely lacking in the ability to speak to a human than a surgeon does, they spend all day with conscious scared people who need care and compassion.

Otter2 · 19/04/2024 18:00

Letsgotitans · 19/04/2024 17:38

Yes agree to this about surgeons, i had a surgeon telling me the 'offending article has been removed'. He meant my ectopic pregnancy baby 😩

Oh my god there are no words.

LoveHeartsFan · 19/04/2024 18:00

This is all levels of wrong, from moving out of professional mode to you both, failing to model appropriate behaviour to the student present, (so unprofessional with him too), the off-colour and sexist insult offered to you both, and the subtext implication for a cancer patient in particular. He couldn’t have got it any more wrong, really.

So sorry to hear about the way you were treated at this appointment, OP. It’s enough dealing with medical appointments without a lack of professionalism on top.

guineverehadgreeneyes · 19/04/2024 18:02

Pootle23 · 19/04/2024 14:38

Probably the same reason I accompanied my husband to his cancer appointments.

  1. Support my husband through this hellish period.
  2. I am better in medical settings as I work in the NHS and Consultants don’t intimidate me, although they do many others.
  3. Two people remembering all they say can be helpful.
  4. I would ask questions my husband hadn’t thought of.

It really is very normal to take support of a loved one or family or friend to these appointments.

Indeed. My local hospital encourages patients undergoing cancer treatment or attending post-cancer operation follow-up appointments to bring their partners to appointments.

TheBerry · 19/04/2024 18:05

He probably thought he was being funny and lightening the atmosphere.

Maybe after he said it he felt mortified.

Still, by age 60 I thinks most people would have learned to take a second and reconsider before making a joke like that.

I think your DH should have said something in your defence! I’d be more upset about that.

MarkWithaC · 19/04/2024 18:07

Disgusting. I'd make a massive fuss. I don't know what complaints procedures are, but I'd look into getting it right to the top/being as noisy as possible rather than following a standard procedure that might mean it was sat on/minimised/ignored.

WimbyAce · 19/04/2024 18:07

What a bizarre comment, not at all appropriate or funny. It is good you have witnesses.
Please do complain, it does not have to be like this. My infertility consultant, male nearing retirement could not have been a more kind and compassionate human being.

WearyAuldWumman · 19/04/2024 18:07

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

Why not?

Hospitals tell you that you can take a supporter into appointments.

Noyesnoyes · 19/04/2024 18:08

TheBerry · 19/04/2024 18:05

He probably thought he was being funny and lightening the atmosphere.

Maybe after he said it he felt mortified.

Still, by age 60 I thinks most people would have learned to take a second and reconsider before making a joke like that.

I think your DH should have said something in your defence! I’d be more upset about that.

I think OP has explained that her DH was totally taken aback, so why would he think of a retort!

Stop trying to blame him, he is not the issue by any means!

Otter2 · 19/04/2024 18:09

I am so sorry that this happened to you OP. He is a complete fucking twat and you MUST COMPLAIN and take it as high as you can. He needs a bollocking and you need an apology.

For those who think that the NHS does not have an issue with institutionalised misogyny...words fail me.
What about the diabolical maternity care and the endless scandals? The fact that women are not given enough pain relief when they need it (and men are)? That it was only made mandatory in 2022 for trainee doctors to learn about women's bodies? And just think how quickly the NHS switched important cancer messaging to calling us chest feeders and ovary havers...don't recall seeing men called penis wielders or testicle carriers though.

Solocup · 19/04/2024 18:10

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

What a stupid question. Why should he not be? Sucks for you that you don’t have the kind of relationship where you might like your partner that for support/be comfortable having him there.

CasadeCoca · 19/04/2024 18:10

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 17:55

Thank you all for the replies and the support 🌺.
For those who don’t believe me, sadly it’s true.

Men coming on here to post that they do not believe women's experiences of sexism take the Biscuit.

WearyAuldWumman · 19/04/2024 18:10

BeaRF75 · 19/04/2024 14:49

Just playing devil's advocate, maybe seeing a husband present means that a doctor assumes that they are a very "traditional" couple? I can't imagine ever choosing to take my husband with me to an appointment, even though he is medically qualified - I would want to be treated as the competent, independent person that I am.
But, yes, everyone is different...

I accompanied my late husband to all his medical appointments for heart trouble. Every other man there was accompanied by his significant other.

Otter2 · 19/04/2024 18:11

Maybe after he said it he felt mortified

Unlikely since anyone who would even have a phrase like that in their head - let alone say it out loud - is doubtlessly a complete and utter prick.

Otter2 · 19/04/2024 18:12

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 17:41

I’m sorry you doubt me- see below. I wasn’t examined and if I was then a nurse would have been called

OP you have no need to prove yourself to twats on here. Don't give them your time.

Proudbitch · 19/04/2024 18:12

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 14:55

Wow….. speechless at this too

Me too!!!!

I’m so sorry to hear everything you have been through OP. I am glad you have the support of your husband, which it seems other PPs don’t have.

PoppyCherryDog · 19/04/2024 18:13

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

That’s what you took from this post? Seriously!?!?

OP this is awful absolutely awful! I can’t think of a single situation that this is acceptable to say.

londonloves · 19/04/2024 18:15

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

Why is that relevant

wintersgold · 19/04/2024 18:16

I would pursue this and wouldn't drop it until the gynaecologist was appropriately (harshly!) punished. He has no business having a medical license. Appalling, I'm so sorry for you OP.

SaySomethingMan · 19/04/2024 18:16

BeaRF75 · 19/04/2024 14:49

Just playing devil's advocate, maybe seeing a husband present means that a doctor assumes that they are a very "traditional" couple? I can't imagine ever choosing to take my husband with me to an appointment, even though he is medically qualified - I would want to be treated as the competent, independent person that I am.
But, yes, everyone is different...

What about when the wife accompanied the husband? What type of couple are they then? Still traditional?

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