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Free Movement with EU for young people?

273 replies

Kendodd · 18/04/2024 23:05

Would you support?
YANBU = Yes
YABU = No

BBC News - EU proposes some free movement for UK young people
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046

OP posts:
Raquelos · 18/04/2024 23:44

Why just young people though? There are plenty of people who would want this and who would benefit that are over 30!

AIstolemylunch · 18/04/2024 23:46

I fully support this. One of the main things that pissed me off about brexit was our young people ple not being able to work in Europe.

SheepAndSword · 18/04/2024 23:46

I agree but I'd want that too!

GrumpyPanda · 18/04/2024 23:55

Sounds like more cherry-picking. How about fixing things for that poor couple, married 30 years, husband Brit, both whole career and taxes paid in UK, moved to France for a few years to look after the wife's dying mum and now can't move back to the UK for retirement because it's disrupted settled status.

deragod · 18/04/2024 23:58

GrumpyPanda · 18/04/2024 23:55

Sounds like more cherry-picking. How about fixing things for that poor couple, married 30 years, husband Brit, both whole career and taxes paid in UK, moved to France for a few years to look after the wife's dying mum and now can't move back to the UK for retirement because it's disrupted settled status.

EU does not have power to dictate and change UK's policy.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 19/04/2024 00:00

You have forgotten to enable voting, so your final question is unanswerable.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 19/04/2024 00:01

Sounds great. Should be extended to everyone though. And we need to rejoin the single market.

Lancrelady80 · 19/04/2024 00:01

One of my biggest (of many) resentments about Brexit is the difficulties it has caused to travel, be it holidays or working and moving abroad.

But I wouldn't support this. It's trying to poach the UK's young talent.

Yetigain · 19/04/2024 00:02

Absolutely I’d support it. The UK deserves to have its talent poached!

blackpear · 19/04/2024 00:02

I would absolutely support this. Really miss the EU students on campus. They brought such an interesting dimension. Bring it on.

Lancrelady80 · 19/04/2024 00:07

So where will we all be if our future business leaders and money-makers have all left because the country has gone to the dogs, everything is falling apart, and we don't even have decent weather?

I thought EU students still had arrangements in place to study here, via student visas?

minipie · 19/04/2024 00:13

Would support any return of free movement even if age limited

I notice that the main argument against seems to be “all the talent will leave”. If a country can only survive by preventing its people from leaving, what does that say?

Haruka · 19/04/2024 06:09

If a country can only survive by preventing its people from leaving, what does that say?

Agree. We know how well that panned out for Eastern Germany.

KrisAkabusi · 19/04/2024 06:43

GrumpyPanda · 18/04/2024 23:55

Sounds like more cherry-picking. How about fixing things for that poor couple, married 30 years, husband Brit, both whole career and taxes paid in UK, moved to France for a few years to look after the wife's dying mum and now can't move back to the UK for retirement because it's disrupted settled status.

Cherry picking by whom? If they can't move to the UK, that's the UK's fault not the EU's.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 19/04/2024 06:58

I’d support it. I want my kids to have more options. This freedom should apply to anyone who was below voting age at the time of the 2016 referendum, so 26 years of age and below.

Its unfair to trap young people here in order for them to pay for pensions and social care for older people who voted to take their rights away and damaged the economy.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 19/04/2024 06:59

Lancrelady80 · 19/04/2024 00:07

So where will we all be if our future business leaders and money-makers have all left because the country has gone to the dogs, everything is falling apart, and we don't even have decent weather?

I thought EU students still had arrangements in place to study here, via student visas?

Anyone who can is finding ways to go anyway, because the country is going to the dogs, in not a small part due to Brexit. Not only the economic fall in gdp but the time and money taken up with it that could and should have been spent improving this country. Most young people used free movement to work in the EU for a short while before coming home with a wealth of experience. I've told my kids to find ways to leave. And I never thought I'd do that when they were born. I'm disappointed if Kabour have said they have no plans for that. I hope they are calling people's bluff. Surely everyone but the most ardent brexiteers realise what they have done?

BloodsOk · 19/04/2024 07:01

Having seen the nightmare some young language uni students have had arranging their year in Europe (expensive visa bureaucracy hell) I would support anything that makes life easier. Brexit made things so tough for them.

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 07:07

Yes, I would definitely support this. I'm still so cross that these rights were taken away from our young people.

But it would be much better if we just restored freedom of movement for everyone.

CurrentHun · 19/04/2024 07:19

We should ask to rejoin and be an EU country again!

Brexit is a total failure, loads of people were shamelessly tricked and lied to to get them to vote for it. Remember the NHS bus? It has completely failed to benefit ordinary people in the UK.
I can’t name any way in which UK life is better now than pre-2016 because of Brexit. It’s worse. So yes please, give anyone of any age free movement, until rejoining can happen.

SpinyNorma · 19/04/2024 07:21

Makes sense. It will take incremental steps to fix the mess of Brexit and this is a reasonable starting point. Hopefully we'll have a less swivel eyed government in place soon which can engage sensibly with the proposal.

EasternStandard · 19/04/2024 07:21

The article is a bit light but it seems the gov were looking at individual country deals on movement, the EU said all would be better as a bloc. Labour are a no on youth movement atm

‘It says it is open to extending that to individual EU member countries, rather than throughout the EU.

Downing Street says it prefers country-by-country deals to an agreement that would apply across all 27 member states.

And Labour has said it has "no plans for a youth mobility scheme" if it wins the general election later this year.’

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 19/04/2024 07:23

Totally support it but what a crock of shit that this has to happen at all when we pissed away our free movement for our “sovereignty”, whatever the fuck that means 🤬. Brexit is such a fucking joke and it makes me sad and angry that the Tories did this to us just to make them and their mates richer.

ColourfulSeasons · 19/04/2024 07:24

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MumChp · 19/04/2024 07:24

Lancrelady80 · 19/04/2024 00:07

So where will we all be if our future business leaders and money-makers have all left because the country has gone to the dogs, everything is falling apart, and we don't even have decent weather?

I thought EU students still had arrangements in place to study here, via student visas?

@Lancrelady80

Yes but study fees went up after Brexit for international students so tbh I wouldn't choose UK.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 19/04/2024 07:25

CurrentHun · 19/04/2024 07:19

We should ask to rejoin and be an EU country again!

Brexit is a total failure, loads of people were shamelessly tricked and lied to to get them to vote for it. Remember the NHS bus? It has completely failed to benefit ordinary people in the UK.
I can’t name any way in which UK life is better now than pre-2016 because of Brexit. It’s worse. So yes please, give anyone of any age free movement, until rejoining can happen.

People weren’t tricked and lied to, that’s giving them an easy out. They were seduced which is different. Everyone had access to the same information, however, the Leavers wanted to hear what they were being told even though it made no sense.

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