Free Movement with EU for young people?

[Kendodd]

Would you support?
YANBU = Yes
YABU = No

BBC News - EU proposes some free movement for UK young people
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046

That is what the UK decided to put in the Brexit Agreement

Under the Brexit agreement, British citizens who had settled in an EU member state before Brexit had the right to remain in that country but did not have the right to return to the UK with an EU spouse without being routed through the visa system.

A huge amount of that was achieved by Soviet Russia too, far more than the UK for example. Seems weird that you would cherry pick a certain time in history and only accept that as a gauge of the character of other countries. If they did that then the UK could be characterised as a colonising, genocidal, thieving destroyer of cultural heritage.

I support this proposal, it's a move in the right direction

People under 25 didn't vote for Brexit.

I might have misunderstood but from what I heard this morning, it wouldn't be free movement throughout the EU, as we had before, but the chance to live in one EU country for up to four years.

What a terrible situation we inflicted on this country with Brexit, particularly for young people who had no say in the matter.

For everyone, please! I had always planned to retire to Spain, where my pension would go much further and my bones would be warm. It was my dream. I will now retire in the UK with little more than state pension. I will have to move because I currently live in a village that requires a car to get anywhere but won’t be able to afford a car on my pension. My fault for not building a pension pot in the UK and dreaming of sunnier climates.

Good idea. Expect more of these cuddly deals offered by the EU.

Which EU countries have high youth unemployment and will free movement of those people help solve the problems that caused unemployment?

I think allowing all EU member states to come on a youth mobility visa like we currently have with Canada is a great idea.
But they should pay the NHS surcharge that the current participants pay.

The EU is trying to have its cake and eat it. The UK is not opposed to negotiating individual deals with EU countries but the EU is trying to stop that. This would risk some countries flooding the UK with people which the UK Gov and Labour are trying to avoid.
It’s better to negotiate individual deals with the more developed EU countries for the UK.
secondly the EU want the NHS surcharge to go and EU students to get home fees but EU students are still international.
Therefore it is better for UK interests to cherry pick deals with individual EU countries than having to apply the same rules with all of them, even if it won’t be to the UK’s advantage to have deals with some less developed EU countries.

It's about our young people going to EU though, not theirs coming here.

Agist

Are you sure? I imagine it would be reciprocal surely?

How about we just admit Brexit was a massive failure and we try to negotiate re-entry? I would like to see freedom of movement back for all not just young people.

It may be in the UK's interests to cherry pick, but the EU doesn't do that. There are no circumstances in which individual members negotiate with foreign countries. The EU aren't going to make an exception for the UK. Why would they? The UK thought they could do this during the Brexit negotiations and were surprised when told that's not how it works. Why would they think anything has changed?

Agree

Sorry to hear that Potato, but please take heart, it is not sunlit uplands in Spain. There is unrest with the government, the droughts have hit hard and they turn off the water at properties so they cant flush the toilet and imagine the smell in the heat 😝there's so much youth unemployment, lots of issues with immigration, protests etc.

You never know we could have a blinding summer here like we did in 2022 and that will help your bones.

Same question here as I’m not sure

Also wondering why Labour are reluctant

Yes, good idea.

That's the whole point of Brexit right there. A degree of free movement makes good sense. But our elected government should decide the terms of the arrangement, not some inaccessible distant bureaucracy blindly devoted to whatever ideology it wants to inflict on people with little thought for the consequences.

Labour is being somewhat timid with its bomb proof approach to the election and not risking upsetting anyone. But its denial is pretty wishy washy and nothing in it actually says it won't agree something like this.

Would absolutely 100% support this, I want my kids to have freedom to travel and live wherever they chose, not just be trapped on this tight little isle.

"they did that then the UK could be characterised as a colonising, genocidal, thieving destroyer of cultural heritage."

Can you imagine..... 👀👀

Do you feel the same about the other countries we have youth mobility visa schemes with?

Oh don’t be so ridiculous. Look what happened in the pandemic. All those bloody “in it together” countries fled for the hills and only thought about themselves. And not all oooold people voted for and not all youngggg people voted stay. This is such a boring boring argument and I can’t even believe we’re having it. And the same people who are so anti brexit (often people who have no actual understanding of the true history and politics behind it all) are the same ones who will say Ohhhh Scotland should be free and allowed to rule themselves! What a bunch of hypocrites

What a selfish attitude. You would really deny young Brits the chance to work, travel and seek better opportunities because of a fear that they would be "poached"?

I count myself in the ‘older’ category. I was vehemently against Brexit and spent a lot of time on here arguing with dumb arses who were voting for Brexit to hurt London (logic wasn’t their strong point) I lost, however, those who never had a chance to vote should have the opportunity to have their rights restored.