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Large sum of money being given to sibling

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Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 00:31

To set the scene: there is a 12 year age gap between myself and my brother; I am the older sibling. My brother has had a lot of help financially with uni costs (I didn't go) including rent. I was given 5k from my parents for my wedding 14 years ago. However, my brother's rented accommodation has recently been put up for sale and the landlord has offered it to him to buy. He will have a mortgage but it turns out my parents will give him 90k for the deposit. When I say give, I do mean give - not a loan, they won't own part of the house - he is just being given it. It is half of their 180k savings. Both parents are retired. I have been told that when they make a will, it will state that myself and my brother will have half each of what they have BUT it will be stipulated that I will get 90k before the rest is divided up. However, as this may well be in 20 years' time, this doesn't seem at all fair to me. Who knows what their financial situation will be by then. My Dad justifies it by saying that they weren't in a financial position to give me that sort of money when my husband and I bought our house, which I'm sure is true, but surely this is still grossly unfair? We're not exactly living in a mansion and the house we have lived in for over 10 years still needs a new bathroom amongst other things. Would anyone else by severely pied off in this situation? My Dad explained that it isn't because my brother is "the favourite" (he is and always has been) but because he is "high maintenance". I am so hurt, angry and disappointed that I haven't spoken to or messaged my parents or brother since I was told about this 5 or 6 weeks ago. For context, my parents live across the road. They don't even give enough of a sh to contact me and find out why I have stopped visiting (probably because they know). Would anyone else be upset by this situation?

OP posts:
MumblesParty · 18/04/2024 10:17

I can’t believe anyone thinks this OK. It’s blatantly unfair. I’ve got 2 teenagers and it would be like me giving one of them a brand new iPhone for Christmas, and the other one a satsuma and a promise of an identical iPhone in 30 years! And it’s not about the iPhone, it’s about the clear message being sent about favouritism.

curiositykilledthiscat · 18/04/2024 10:17

If you were 10, I would have understood such arguments about equality but as adults we put context in the situation. No way he is their favourite, they are worried for him a little more than you because oh his inability to have a normal life due to his mental health.

Of course he's their favourite. Why did they gift him huge amounts of money to fund his two postgraduate degrees that he didn't need to do, for example?

mrsdineen2 · 18/04/2024 10:17

gettingbackonit23 · 18/04/2024 10:15

if he’s been treated for depression, I suspect that his issues are more profound than you are making out, OP. Your parents don’t sound like they don’t care about you. They wouldn’t have sat down and tried to justify their actions if this were the case. They obviously feel they are making the right (but difficult) choice here. With respect unless you are your brothers doctor or therapist you cannot say whether this is “neuroses being pandered to” or something more serious.

I'm no expert, but surely if his issues were so profound, it would be unwise for his parents to spend £90k on having him live 2 hours away? Shouldn't they be pushing him to move closer if he really is vulnerable?

gettingbackonit23 · 18/04/2024 10:18

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:15

He lives 2 hours away and I'm over the road. We know the answer, don't we!

Well you can refuse to do it, OP. If you are cutting contact with them anyway, you don’t have to provide care for them.

RainIsCosy · 18/04/2024 10:18

MumblesParty · 18/04/2024 10:17

I can’t believe anyone thinks this OK. It’s blatantly unfair. I’ve got 2 teenagers and it would be like me giving one of them a brand new iPhone for Christmas, and the other one a satsuma and a promise of an identical iPhone in 30 years! And it’s not about the iPhone, it’s about the clear message being sent about favouritism.

Though if one of your children needed an expensive technology to help them survive, and the other didn't, it would be a case of fair not necessarily being equal. Presumably your children are equally capable, which is not the case with OP and her brother by the sound of it.

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:18

Acqua · 18/04/2024 10:14

Parent prospective in a similar situation:

I'm a parent of teens and can already anticipate having to help my son much more than my daughter in the future . Not because I play favourites, but I just do my best to help who needs that money more at that time.

Like your brother,my son too is very "sensitive to noise and people and life in general that he woild never consider living anywhere attached." It breaks my heart to see him now and what his future will be - so I know I will have to help him much more financially. I think my daughter knows all this, and I try to be there as much as possible emmotionally and financially as I can for her now. But I can already see it's unfair and hard for her - just as it is for you.

Life hasn't been fair to any of you and I can understand how you feel in all this.

Perhaps your brother has ASD, ADHD or Misaphonia ...all very debilitating. Misaphonia (severe sensitivity to sound) is the cruellest of curses. I don't wish to label anyone - but knowing of these conditions can help us understand why people have very real needs and aren't just being "needy".

Your brother's been lucky to find a home that meets his anxiety over noise/people and I can understand why he's desperate to hold on to it (and your parents urge to help).

You have been blessed it seems with more resilience and ability to cope with life than your brother ...that is worth so much more than money. Wishing you all understanding, harmony and health.

Thank you for your reasoned and kind response. Seeing it from the side that your daughter might end up seeing it, please be very careful she doesn't end up feeling hurt and resentful like I do. I'm sure you have thought about how to prevent this, but it's a very real possibility, judging from experience.

OP posts:
RainIsCosy · 18/04/2024 10:19

curiositykilledthiscat · 18/04/2024 10:17

If you were 10, I would have understood such arguments about equality but as adults we put context in the situation. No way he is their favourite, they are worried for him a little more than you because oh his inability to have a normal life due to his mental health.

Of course he's their favourite. Why did they gift him huge amounts of money to fund his two postgraduate degrees that he didn't need to do, for example?

Who's to say OP wouldn't have got the same from her parents if she had decided to go to university? She didn't.

Redpaisley · 18/04/2024 10:19

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:07

"High maintenance" was a direct quote from my Dad actually. I also don't like noise from neighbours, and I also would have liked to have raised my family in a detached house, but we couldn't afford one, so we made do with what we could afford. Sometimes mummy and daddy can't sort everything when you're a grown up. I didn't go crying to my parents for money.

But posters don't know the context of high maintenance, you did when your dad used the woed. You don't like sound, do you also have depression despite counselling and unable to build a relationship and family life?

Sounds like you are equating your wants to his needs. I also don't like sound but I can live with it. Maybe you can live with it too, but some people with mental health cannot deal with it. And if he is really pampered and spoilt, then he is paying the price with his personal life.

What you write here sound similar to when people say depression is an excuse, just get over with it.

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:19

mrsdineen2 · 18/04/2024 10:17

I'm no expert, but surely if his issues were so profound, it would be unwise for his parents to spend £90k on having him live 2 hours away? Shouldn't they be pushing him to move closer if he really is vulnerable?

Exactly, because they aren't that profound.

OP posts:
DoreenonTill8 · 18/04/2024 10:19

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 09:59

Thank you for understanding, yes, it goes far deeper and this feels like the "final straw" so to speak. And again, as you say, care, whenever it is needed, will fall to me as brother is 2 hours away.

It doesn't have to. Remember your parents doing 2 years of childcare for your dc, you have to be absolutely grateful for, and forever pay it back. You should be ready, willing and able to provide endless elder care whenever they want it, and also be happy and grateful they've allowed you to do this for them. 🤨

Acqua · 18/04/2024 10:20

MumblesParty · 18/04/2024 10:17

I can’t believe anyone thinks this OK. It’s blatantly unfair. I’ve got 2 teenagers and it would be like me giving one of them a brand new iPhone for Christmas, and the other one a satsuma and a promise of an identical iPhone in 30 years! And it’s not about the iPhone, it’s about the clear message being sent about favouritism.

In an ideal world, if a parent is lucky enough to have two healthy (mentally & physically) children, then yes 50/50 would be the fairest split. But if one child has very real mental challenges, then as parent you can't just ignore the child that is and will always struggle. It's very sad and hard for everyone.

lola006 · 18/04/2024 10:20

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:15

He lives 2 hours away and I'm over the road. We know the answer, don't we!

Thing is, OP, it doesn’t have to be that way. You can quietly detach yourself from them, go low contact, even tell them that unfortunately you’ll be unable to care for them later on. It’ll be harsh but you’re clearly carrying years of resentment here and maybe it’s time your parents realise just how much it’s hurting you. As you said in your last reply to me, this is the final straw.

How you go about it all, I have no idea. But in some way you may need to make it clear that DB will need to be the one they turn too in 10/20/30 years.

Maddy70 · 18/04/2024 10:20

They are not doing anything wrong. Their circumstances have changed. They're now in a position to help him whereas then they couldnt help you
They are being VERY fair. You will get the same money on their death

You are being grabby and silly

Of coyrse they helped him with uni fees of they could. They would have helped you too if you had gone!

Honestly i hate posts like this.

12345change · 18/04/2024 10:21

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:14

He would not be homeless at all - he could rent somewhere else or buy somewhere smaller. He just won't ever compromise on anything because he has always had things exactly his way.

It's your perception that he has had things "his way". It would be interesting if you said that to him - as my experience with siblings is their views about stuff like this is very different and people have VERY selective memories...also people come on here and paint a particular narrative to get people on their side and confirm their bias.

Ultimately you whining and moaning about this and keeping score is not going to help the situation. If your parents have made up their minds - as others have said their money their decision. You need to move on and not let it ruin your relationship with your family. What's the alternative - fall out with all your family and/or carry on as you are in bitterness..

Contraversialcate · 18/04/2024 10:22

Totally empathise with you OP I have had similar with my parents. It’s really hard and unfair. I try to console myself by reminding myself I don’t need their pity / help and am proud of my independence but yea it stings.

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:22

MumblesParty · 18/04/2024 10:17

I can’t believe anyone thinks this OK. It’s blatantly unfair. I’ve got 2 teenagers and it would be like me giving one of them a brand new iPhone for Christmas, and the other one a satsuma and a promise of an identical iPhone in 30 years! And it’s not about the iPhone, it’s about the clear message being sent about favouritism.

Exactly. Goes much deeper than finances. I mean, they are of course entitled to love him more - they feel what they feel, but at least hide it a bit better!

OP posts:
GuinnessBird · 18/04/2024 10:23

I love how some posters are contorting themselves to find acceptable reasons for the brother to be given £90 fucking grand!

Yes OP had £5K for her wedding and free childcare for one day a week, term time only for a maximum of three years, that in no way equates to £90 fucking grand!

The parents are idiots, they've destroyed relationships and decided that the brothers 'wants' are worth destroying relationships for.

Also, they've lost half of their savings.

If this was my parents then I'd be absolutely livid.

RainIsCosy · 18/04/2024 10:23

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:18

Thank you for your reasoned and kind response. Seeing it from the side that your daughter might end up seeing it, please be very careful she doesn't end up feeling hurt and resentful like I do. I'm sure you have thought about how to prevent this, but it's a very real possibility, judging from experience.

Or maybe, like my own child, they will be understanding and supportive of their sibling, knowing how fortunate they are not to have those needs? Mine came to me and suggested I disinherit them to help the other child. I haven't done that but boy am I grateful for their understanding.

Redpaisley · 18/04/2024 10:24

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 07:52

He hasn’t been in a position to achieve because he studied until he was 30 to avoid getting a job. He only stopped because he couldn’t study beyond a Phd.

That's your assessment. A lot of people do PHDs and it is not to avoid working. Because PHD is as much work as working in many jobs. You are being very unfair to your brother. I hope you don't say these things to him.

Laiste · 18/04/2024 10:24

For my SIL, the childcare MIL gave in the early years meant she kept her career on track and her earnings stayed high and have continued to rise now the kids are in secondary school. SIL's career took no financial hit from having them due to MIL being there for that day or 2 a week/when they were sick.

MIL sometimes loved it and sometimes felt the strain.

SIL kept her 50k a year job. Worth a lot more than the sum of the individual days MIL had the kids.

Something to remember.

RainIsCosy · 18/04/2024 10:24

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:22

Exactly. Goes much deeper than finances. I mean, they are of course entitled to love him more - they feel what they feel, but at least hide it a bit better!

You equate love with money? Where did that come from? I equate love with time.

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:25

Noyesnoyes · 18/04/2024 10:12

@Iwasafool looking after ailing parents without pay is also very hard work......

The DB has got his money, at least OP won't be obliged to be unpaid carer to her parents in their older years!

Nor is she obliged to continue the care of her DB, once the parents have gone.

The parents have ensured that the OP and her DBs relationship is over. They may well have handled this differently and felt safe in the knowledge that if the DB does need any help OP may have stepped up, but I doubt she will now.

I think they've made a big mistake.

This. I won't have contact with him again. I have glossed over many things in the past for the sake of harmony, but enough now.

OP posts:
curiositykilledthiscat · 18/04/2024 10:26

RainIsCosy · 18/04/2024 10:19

Who's to say OP wouldn't have got the same from her parents if she had decided to go to university? She didn't.

That's irrelevant. The point is they CHOSE to gift him all that money for his postgrad degrees when they didn't need to. They could have gifted OP the same money, or put that money in trusts for OP's children, but they clearly favour the brother, hence all this inordinate gifting and enabling.

Redpaisley · 18/04/2024 10:26

Zippy27 · 18/04/2024 10:22

Exactly. Goes much deeper than finances. I mean, they are of course entitled to love him more - they feel what they feel, but at least hide it a bit better!

Thatsñ Christmas gift of brand new iPhone is not comparable to your situation Op. It's your choice, you want to see your parents in this way. They have done things for you which they didn't for your brother like childcare. It's not about equality, it's about equity.

Bloopp · 18/04/2024 10:26

We have a similar situation in our family and it has caused a massive rift that has been going on for years now. You should probably have a frank conversation with all of them so everyone knows where they stand. It might not change anything but I think confused communication really made everything worse for us.

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