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Should I pay for boyfriend’s pets if I move in?

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LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:26

I have a few questions actually and I am hoping to cover them on this one thread! I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon (we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50). He has a dog and cat and has told me I absolutely don’t need to contribute money towards them, but that he then wants to be able to stick to his schedules with things, he is quite strict with stuff like bedtime and when he goes to bed and does walks and stuff, simply so the dog stays in a routine (he lives in a flat so there’s a few walks for a toilet break) and there’s one before bed, so he has set bedtimes for set shifts and things. It feels quite a lot (we are late 20s, I will add) and we are obviously child-free atm so don’t really want so much structure, I’ve said like can we just relax on that and he says if we do, the dog’s behaviour can be unpredictable with being too hyper or having accidents (if routines aren’t followed) I love his pets and do want them to become mine too and for me to be able to have an equal say in stuff and I said if I can, I’ll of course then contribute to half the costs of them, he says he admits it might be hard to do that as he has had his dog 7 years and knows what’s best for him and would find it hard for me to now come in with a bunch of different ideas and change things up, which is why he says he would never expect me to pay for them. What’s the general opinion on this anyway? Do people split pet costs if they move in with partners that have pets? Like, I have no idea what is even acceptable with that, regardless of this specific situation. I admit I am quite lazy and around full time work I don’t want to be setting my alarm if I’m on a late shift and having to work until the late evening but he will usually still have his bedtime of about midnight and get up at 8! I personally like to relax in bed most the morning until I’m due to get up for work or maybe get up an hour before to do some jobs, I don’t want to be up and out with the dog at 8am, he says I don’t have to be out with the dog but he thinks it’s going to be hard if he is going to bed at say midnight or even 8pm for early shifts (we both do shift work, but are usually on the same, it’s specific shifts hence he has his routines) and then I do completely different and I do agree… is this just a case of us not being compatible? It hurts my heart to think that as I love him loads and he actually makes me really happy and I love his dog and cat, I always wanted pets but my parents never allowed (I moved back in with them to save) so I do genuinely really love his, etc. but I am just a lot less structured and as I have admitted before… lazy lol. So does this then not work? He has said he will stick with his routines with his dog/cat (mainly the dog) around his shifts and I am more than welcome to do what I want that works best for me but that he would obviously like it to align with his the best it can but then I feel I have to do what he does vs what I do because of the dog so not much compromise? My friends and other relatives have had dogs and from my understanding it’s never needed to seem so rigid. I don’t know, feeling a bit deflated and have no idea who to ask on what’s fair

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ANiceBigCupOfTea · 18/04/2024 06:31

Dogs love routine.
During the week I'm usually settling into bed around 9.30-10 and if it goes past this my dogs come up to me like 'right we going to bed or what'.
He sounds like a great dog owner and very responsible, there's no need to change what he's got with the dog. I'm going to guess it's so rigid as he's in an apartment, but it can be a lot more flexible if you do ever move to a house with a garden as the dogs can sniff around there and do their business etc, but anyone I know who has dogs in an apartment do tend to be the same with set walks for the dog to prevent stress and accidents in the house.

ontheflighttosingapore · 18/04/2024 06:32

He has to be rigid because he lives in a flat. That means he has to have set toilet times and I get that. He is a very responsible and. Loving owner that's great. Stup up and help don't be lazy and time to grow up a bit and take o. Some responsibility. If you want kids in the future it won't come as such a shock if you start putting others first now

DuchesseNemours · 18/04/2024 06:33

Dogs like routine. Dogs in flats need it. Their toilet habits become tuned to the routine so you mess about with it and you'll be cleaning the carpet before long.

winterwarmer8274 · 18/04/2024 06:35

I haven't RTF but from what I have read YABU.

You talk a lot about how his routine doesn't fit what you like, and how it's annoying that he's not willing to change it - but you don't seem to be willing to change anything either.

I am a dog owner and I sound very similar to your partner, I will often get up at 5am with her to walk her before work, and therefore would also want to be in bed by 9ish.

My dog has been walked early in the morning for years and years and I cherish that hour in the morning when it's just me and her. If a partner moved in and was moaning at me about getting up early to walk my dog, they would be moving our very quickly.

PickledMumion · 18/04/2024 06:38

It doesn't sound like you both want the same thing tbh. You want to enjoy having no responsibilities while you're young and you don't have kids. He already has significant responsibilities, and he likes his life the way it is.

It's not really fair to say that you're "supposed" to relax and enjoy life when you're young - that's just a preference! If you really do like him, then stay together but keep your own space - a year is not long.

BusyMummy001 · 18/04/2024 06:41

People who live together often have conflicting daily routines - my DH is up anywhere between 530-6 and leaves 30mins later; as a result he goes to bed by 10pm on a work night. I’m a night owl and slip into bed 11-1130pm (later if I have essays/assignments due) and don’t get up until around 7 (to get kids ready for school and deal with dogs who need to go out).

We slip in and out of bed very quietly and very quickly adapted to not fully waking when the other goes to bed/gets up. It’s no different to the early days, before kids and dogs, when one of us went out with mates and came home very late (and a bit drunk). It’s no different for people where one or both work shifts.

Ironically, it’s not your DP’s rigidity (responsible attitude towards a dog living in a flat) that may be the problem here. I don’t think you are really in the headspace to move in just yet. I’d wait a while.

muddyford · 18/04/2024 06:44

I'm out with my dogs before 7.00, a bit later in the winter. And in bed by 9.30. Dogs like routine. And I wouldn't expect someone moving in with me to pay towards them. They are absolutely MINE!

BusyMummy001 · 18/04/2024 06:48

muddyford · 18/04/2024 06:44

I'm out with my dogs before 7.00, a bit later in the winter. And in bed by 9.30. Dogs like routine. And I wouldn't expect someone moving in with me to pay towards them. They are absolutely MINE!

It’s funny, but my dogs have been known to ‘tell’ me they want to go to bed! By 930/10pm the give me the tells, but fortunately they will trot off with DH if I’m not ready yet!

StMarieforme · 18/04/2024 06:52

LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:40

I can stay in bed but he’s then on a completely different routine to me, he’s going to bed way earlier for the shifts than what I would, I also like to nap after an early but in his world naps aren’t allowed. Don’t get me wrong, he says I can if I really want to but that it’s just ruining our time together and how we function together at home… it’s just so stressful! Finally think you’re in a good relationship and then things like this, that you don’t even think about end up feeling like a problem, but surely they don’t need to be! I feel his pressure of routine is causing the strain

I think you need to not live together. I don't see how your different approaches to life are compatible.

KTSl1964 · 18/04/2024 06:56

It’s all control - it’s his way or the highway. I’ve never met anyone who “manages” the dog the way he does. It’s NOT NORMAL - no flexibility!!! RUN

user1492757084 · 18/04/2024 06:58

Let the dogs keep their routine.
Logically then, your boyfriend has the routine.
Can you not just have your own routine and agree to spending lots of time together when he is not attending to the pets and when you are not asleep?
Is there room in your home for you to have your own bedroom? Could that room be a pet free zone? Thus, no pet routine in there.

RedRobyn2021 · 18/04/2024 06:58

It sounds like he is a lark and you are a night owl to me

EdithArtois · 18/04/2024 07:03

I think he sounds quite controlling and wants you to move in and fit in with his timekeeping. Not allowing naps?? ‘Preferring’ you to match his timetable.that is all subtle pressure to do things his way. You say you don’t feel relaxed coming back from work. That tells you everything you need to know.

Planesmistakenforstars · 18/04/2024 07:03

Don't move in with him. He may be right to have the routine he has for the reason he has it, but that doesn't mean yours is objectively worse, and if his is going to completely dictate your life then you will be miserable.
It will never feel like your it's your home too.
He will probably be guilting/nagging/scowling about your naps and the time you get up. He has already started doing that. The bedtime part I can understand, but he shouldn't be trying to control whether you take a nap or not, especially when you work shifts.
He can be a responsible dog owner and also a knob head.

VestibuleVirgin · 18/04/2024 07:06

LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:40

I can stay in bed but he’s then on a completely different routine to me, he’s going to bed way earlier for the shifts than what I would, I also like to nap after an early but in his world naps aren’t allowed. Don’t get me wrong, he says I can if I really want to but that it’s just ruining our time together and how we function together at home… it’s just so stressful! Finally think you’re in a good relationship and then things like this, that you don’t even think about end up feeling like a problem, but surely they don’t need to be! I feel his pressure of routine is causing the strain

His routine is not causing the strain. Your expectation that he will change his routine to fit between the times you are wating a nap/to be lazy/entertained, is causing the issue.
Find someone who has no ties - pets or kids- someone who likes your lifestyle, and have a good time with them until you are ready to understand that other people's commitments cannot always be changed to suit others
Don't force someone to change. It will only cause resentment all round

Lillers · 18/04/2024 07:06

OP, on the one hand it’s frustrating to read your messages because it does feel like quite a “young” attitude to an adult relationship. On the other hand, I will give you kudos for really thinking about this before jumping in.

You’ve fixated on the pets, but they are symptomatic of what I think your deeper concerns are: you’re worried that this man doesn’t love you enough to make room for you in his life. You’ve recognised that he’s happy to have you around, but there’s no real push to find a way to make your lives work as a partnership. And that’s not a criticism of either of you: he has a routine and lifestyle that works for him, but he needs to be honest with you about whether he really wants to build a new life with you or if he’s just (ironically) going with the flow in the relationship and hoping you’ll adapt to his life.

For this reason, you need to have a real, adult conversation about your relationship. Do you have the same goals and desires? Do you want to work in partnership to build your lives together? If yes, then you can absolutely fine ways to make your routines work together. If not, it means reviewing whether this relationship works for you both long term. Being honest when you love someone is hard because of the fear of losing them, but if you’re not honest, you’ll never really have them in the first place.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 18/04/2024 07:11

I would only stay a couple of nights a week and not move in yet. I can’t work out if he’s telling you you can’t go to bed later or not? If he’s not telling you what to do then I don’t see an issue. He likes his routine and it works for his pets.

Needtocleanupdogsick · 18/04/2024 07:12

There are 3 issues here….

he is a morning person, your not!
he likes routine and structure, you don’t!
you are lazy, he is not!

he sounds like a responsible pet owner and will choose his pets over you!

you are not compatible!

Cherrysoup · 18/04/2024 07:13

Hand on heart, I couldn’t stay up til 2am and not put the dogs for toileting, but we’re not in a flat. It seems you aren’t compatible with routines. Him going to bed at 8 for earlies is crazy, how much sleep does he need? Maybe I’m prejudiced, my DH will go to bed at 11 to get up at 5 and he doesn’t go to bed ‘for a few hours’ after earlies, he might snooze after dinner for 15 minutes. I don’t see when you’re going to spend time together.

You don’t need to pay for the pets, you do need to pay if you’re there most of the time, but he won’t change his routine and you shouldn’t be disrupting his and offering to take out the dog when you feel like it isn’t really on. He’s used to a certain routine and should be sticking to it.

My conclusion is that you won’t cope longterm with his grownup routine, don’t move in.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 18/04/2024 07:18

You shouldn't move in together. You're not compatible. He wants you to move in, but on terms that don't suit you. It's not about who pays for the pets.

With his unshakeable routines and you spending so much time with him that you might as well move in, what's your social life like? Do you have a social life together with other friends? Do you have an independent social life? Or is it all just work, family and him?

You've only been together a year. If I were you I wouldn't dump him but I wouldn't move in either, and I would plan to spend more time at my own place and with/making my own friends.

he was also very quick to constantly tell me how living in your own place is very different and that I wont fully understand if I’ve been with my parents a lot but that he can “help me to understand” type thing which I think is making it all so much worse. I’m not much younger, he’s only 2 years older but I do feel like I haven’t had as much life experience as I have been heavily saving while he has obviously put that money into a much more stereotypical adult lifestyle

OK, scrub what I said above. He's an arsehole. Dump him now.

Sunnydays1974 · 18/04/2024 07:25

Hè needs to run a mile!

Tygertiger · 18/04/2024 07:25

He is a very responsible pet owner and putting them first. When there are threads on MN from women saying “should I move in with my bf if he doesn’t agree with my pet care routine”, invariably the chorus is always that the pets were there first and the OP’s primary responsibility. It’s hard work juggling a dog in a flat while doing shift work and he sounds like he makes the dog his priority, which is absolutely right.

However, you don’t sound generally compatible. He obviously loves routine and it’s important to him and you like to be more relaxed - both of those are valid positions, they’re just always going to clash. Think longer term - if you live with him and have children, is he going to want similar routines in a way you will find difficult and restrictive?

In all honesty I think if you move in with him you’ll both be miserable. Either this is a relationship which always needs separate houses (in which case what is your future going to look like?) or you should part ways now.

Nicole1111 · 18/04/2024 07:27

At first when I read this I thought perhaps this was an issue with your “laziness” and your readiness for the mundane routine of adult life. As I read it though I started to get an off feeling about your partner, as while he says he’s fine with you doing certain things, it seemed he’s subtly critical of you and condescending when you don’t adhere to his routine and way of doing things. For example, if you work an early shift I don’t think it’s appropriate for him to make you feel bad about having naps. Have you noticed any other indicators he’s controlling? How does he feel about what you wear? Your habits? Who you’re friends with? Your family etc?

fieldsofbutterflies · 18/04/2024 07:28

I'm finding all these comments about dogs needing such a strict routine a bit baffling as mine has never really had a routine for anything and he's absolutely fine, lol.

Having said that, if your partner wants to have a routine and it works for him, then it's not really your place to come in and demand he changes all that.

Anameisaname · 18/04/2024 07:29

There's some adjustment needed if 2 people move in together but this sounds like you are very incompatible.

He likes structure and routine and has pets so he likes to stick to this. You want to be free and easy and go with the flow.

Neither is wrong but this is not going to work I'm afraid. You just are not in the same phase of life here. He's had to move on from youthful carefree because of his pets and you don't sound ready to move on right now. Unless there's a real need to move in together I'd stay separate right now

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