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Should I pay for boyfriend’s pets if I move in?

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LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:26

I have a few questions actually and I am hoping to cover them on this one thread! I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon (we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50). He has a dog and cat and has told me I absolutely don’t need to contribute money towards them, but that he then wants to be able to stick to his schedules with things, he is quite strict with stuff like bedtime and when he goes to bed and does walks and stuff, simply so the dog stays in a routine (he lives in a flat so there’s a few walks for a toilet break) and there’s one before bed, so he has set bedtimes for set shifts and things. It feels quite a lot (we are late 20s, I will add) and we are obviously child-free atm so don’t really want so much structure, I’ve said like can we just relax on that and he says if we do, the dog’s behaviour can be unpredictable with being too hyper or having accidents (if routines aren’t followed) I love his pets and do want them to become mine too and for me to be able to have an equal say in stuff and I said if I can, I’ll of course then contribute to half the costs of them, he says he admits it might be hard to do that as he has had his dog 7 years and knows what’s best for him and would find it hard for me to now come in with a bunch of different ideas and change things up, which is why he says he would never expect me to pay for them. What’s the general opinion on this anyway? Do people split pet costs if they move in with partners that have pets? Like, I have no idea what is even acceptable with that, regardless of this specific situation. I admit I am quite lazy and around full time work I don’t want to be setting my alarm if I’m on a late shift and having to work until the late evening but he will usually still have his bedtime of about midnight and get up at 8! I personally like to relax in bed most the morning until I’m due to get up for work or maybe get up an hour before to do some jobs, I don’t want to be up and out with the dog at 8am, he says I don’t have to be out with the dog but he thinks it’s going to be hard if he is going to bed at say midnight or even 8pm for early shifts (we both do shift work, but are usually on the same, it’s specific shifts hence he has his routines) and then I do completely different and I do agree… is this just a case of us not being compatible? It hurts my heart to think that as I love him loads and he actually makes me really happy and I love his dog and cat, I always wanted pets but my parents never allowed (I moved back in with them to save) so I do genuinely really love his, etc. but I am just a lot less structured and as I have admitted before… lazy lol. So does this then not work? He has said he will stick with his routines with his dog/cat (mainly the dog) around his shifts and I am more than welcome to do what I want that works best for me but that he would obviously like it to align with his the best it can but then I feel I have to do what he does vs what I do because of the dog so not much compromise? My friends and other relatives have had dogs and from my understanding it’s never needed to seem so rigid. I don’t know, feeling a bit deflated and have no idea who to ask on what’s fair

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Pheasantsmate · 18/04/2024 16:47

SouthPotty · 18/04/2024 16:32

Am I the only one that finds this man's behaviour around his pets totally weird? I mean I had dogs for years and it would never occur to me to set my daily routine around them - obviously apart from walks and food, these do need to happen around set times.

But to go to bed at set times because it would interfere with a pet's routine? Hell no, you train your dogs to fit in with your lifestyle and not the other way round.

I have a feeling this man is telling you it's his way or the highway with him. Is he inflexible in other aspects of daily life as well? You may find that his established routine is way more important to him than creating a relationship, which in my opinion should be based on compromise.

I think he basically is saying that to settle the dog for the night it goes out for a wee. He’ll do that before he goes to bed- but if OP wants to stay up til 2am she’ll need to settle the dog. I think it’s fairly normal that most people let their dog wee before bed.

what I do find odd is staying round a boyfriends house and not going to bed together, but staying up to watch TV or whatever. This isn’t her home or anything- I might be a bit off the norm here- but if I stay round a boyfriends we are heading bed together.

fieldsofbutterflies · 18/04/2024 17:08

He goes to bed at 8pm though @Pheasantsmate - I'm not really surprised she doesn't want to join him just to lie there in silence while he snores Grin

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 18/04/2024 18:12

well surely as she does not live there, then on the nights when he needs to go to bed at 8 pm when he goes to bed she should be going home...

home as in where she actually lives

she doesn't live there, and isn't contributing to living there - which is what he wants and has asked for in a roundabout way...

alwayslearning789 · 18/04/2024 18:12

MariaLuna · 18/04/2024 01:34

<I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon>

Darling, do not do this. Stay single and solo. You'd just become a mum to him and his pets.

You're young enough. Take time to find out what you want from life. Follow your own dream, not someone else's.

Yup

Mum to him and his pets

Don't do this OP,.too young for this crap.

Red Flag Central.

Waltwaky · 18/04/2024 18:14

alwayslearning789 · 18/04/2024 18:12

Yup

Mum to him and his pets

Don't do this OP,.too young for this crap.

Red Flag Central.

What are people reading? He's literally said the pets are his, he doesn't want her to pay for them at all when she offered, pays a dog walker so she doesn't have any responsibility and he will be sticking to his routine IF she wanted to move in. Which it doesn't even sound like he asked her to do. So weird.

alwayslearning789 · 18/04/2024 18:26

Waltwaky · 18/04/2024 18:14

What are people reading? He's literally said the pets are his, he doesn't want her to pay for them at all when she offered, pays a dog walker so she doesn't have any responsibility and he will be sticking to his routine IF she wanted to move in. Which it doesn't even sound like he asked her to do. So weird.

"I have a few questions actually and I am hoping to cover them on this one thread! I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon.(we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50)...."

In the OP

And yes you are correct - "He has a dog and cat and has told me I absolutely don’t need to contribute money towards them, but that he then wants to be able to stick to his schedules with things, he is quite strict with stuff like bedtime and when he goes to bed and does walks and stuff, simply so the dog stays in a routine"

Still worth thinking about by the OP - so not weird, but an alternative point of view for her to consider.

Waltwaky · 18/04/2024 18:30

alwayslearning789 · 18/04/2024 18:26

"I have a few questions actually and I am hoping to cover them on this one thread! I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon.(we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50)...."

In the OP

And yes you are correct - "He has a dog and cat and has told me I absolutely don’t need to contribute money towards them, but that he then wants to be able to stick to his schedules with things, he is quite strict with stuff like bedtime and when he goes to bed and does walks and stuff, simply so the dog stays in a routine"

Still worth thinking about by the OP - so not weird, but an alternative point of view for her to consider.

The weird part was the 'mum to him and his pets' comment as it made zero sense. The man couldn't seem to take his responsibilities more seriously if he tried and not in any way after a 'mother'

Catsmere · 18/04/2024 22:22

Maybe the dog would prefer it at the exact times he is used to but I really don’t see it being a huge deal

You don't know much about animals if you're framing it as the dog preferring it. It's not a matter of preference, it's a requirement - and being about urination, it's about his health. Please keep away, you're not suited to care for animals with zero experience and this attitude.

Catsmere · 18/04/2024 22:32

Waltwaky · 18/04/2024 18:30

The weird part was the 'mum to him and his pets' comment as it made zero sense. The man couldn't seem to take his responsibilities more seriously if he tried and not in any way after a 'mother'

Yes, and everything OP has written says she is absolutely not ready to be responsible for pets. She hasn't the experience and doesn't seem to take it at all seriously.

JayJayj · 19/04/2024 18:17

I can completely understand where he is coming from in regards to the routines with the dog. My house only has a yard and my dog will not do his business in it. So we do have specific times he goes on walks. If we are late then it will cause accidents. If we had a proper garden then it wouldn’t be needed.

As for bedtime etc it sounds like you are maybe not compatible. It is a shame that he won’t do any compromises as it shouldn’t all be down to you to make them. Maybe time to rethink the relationship

RetirementIsGreat · 19/04/2024 18:27

LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:59

I do really appreciate all the insight, it’s really helpful to hear opinions on this as I sit thinking about it a lot

Why would you move in with a guy that just wants to share the bills? I would only move in if he says he loves you and wants to be with you all the time. Sharing the bills is more like moving in with a friend

HoppingPavlova · 19/04/2024 18:38

@RetirementIsGreat Why would you move in with a guy that just wants to share the bills? I would only move in if he says he loves you and wants to be with you all the time. Sharing the bills is more like moving in with a friend

Not sure it’s that he ‘just wants to share bills’. By OP’s admission she is there pretty much full-time and pays no rent or bills. She contributes to food. If this were reversed and she was a man doing this, she would have 100% of Mumsnet telling her to get rid of the cocklodger. So, a female version essentially, staying virtually full-time and not paying her way. The boyfriend is wise to this and has basically said as she is there full-time anyway, how about actually paying fair share of rent/bills which is not unreasonable.

Catsmere · 19/04/2024 18:42

HoppingPavlova · 19/04/2024 18:38

@RetirementIsGreat Why would you move in with a guy that just wants to share the bills? I would only move in if he says he loves you and wants to be with you all the time. Sharing the bills is more like moving in with a friend

Not sure it’s that he ‘just wants to share bills’. By OP’s admission she is there pretty much full-time and pays no rent or bills. She contributes to food. If this were reversed and she was a man doing this, she would have 100% of Mumsnet telling her to get rid of the cocklodger. So, a female version essentially, staying virtually full-time and not paying her way. The boyfriend is wise to this and has basically said as she is there full-time anyway, how about actually paying fair share of rent/bills which is not unreasonable.

Not to mention her attitude to pet care. How well would most people take the “I’ll do it when I feel like it” attitude coming from a man who stayed up till 2am, disrupting the household routine?

pineapplecrushed · 19/04/2024 19:33

LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:26

I have a few questions actually and I am hoping to cover them on this one thread! I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon (we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50). He has a dog and cat and has told me I absolutely don’t need to contribute money towards them, but that he then wants to be able to stick to his schedules with things, he is quite strict with stuff like bedtime and when he goes to bed and does walks and stuff, simply so the dog stays in a routine (he lives in a flat so there’s a few walks for a toilet break) and there’s one before bed, so he has set bedtimes for set shifts and things. It feels quite a lot (we are late 20s, I will add) and we are obviously child-free atm so don’t really want so much structure, I’ve said like can we just relax on that and he says if we do, the dog’s behaviour can be unpredictable with being too hyper or having accidents (if routines aren’t followed) I love his pets and do want them to become mine too and for me to be able to have an equal say in stuff and I said if I can, I’ll of course then contribute to half the costs of them, he says he admits it might be hard to do that as he has had his dog 7 years and knows what’s best for him and would find it hard for me to now come in with a bunch of different ideas and change things up, which is why he says he would never expect me to pay for them. What’s the general opinion on this anyway? Do people split pet costs if they move in with partners that have pets? Like, I have no idea what is even acceptable with that, regardless of this specific situation. I admit I am quite lazy and around full time work I don’t want to be setting my alarm if I’m on a late shift and having to work until the late evening but he will usually still have his bedtime of about midnight and get up at 8! I personally like to relax in bed most the morning until I’m due to get up for work or maybe get up an hour before to do some jobs, I don’t want to be up and out with the dog at 8am, he says I don’t have to be out with the dog but he thinks it’s going to be hard if he is going to bed at say midnight or even 8pm for early shifts (we both do shift work, but are usually on the same, it’s specific shifts hence he has his routines) and then I do completely different and I do agree… is this just a case of us not being compatible? It hurts my heart to think that as I love him loads and he actually makes me really happy and I love his dog and cat, I always wanted pets but my parents never allowed (I moved back in with them to save) so I do genuinely really love his, etc. but I am just a lot less structured and as I have admitted before… lazy lol. So does this then not work? He has said he will stick with his routines with his dog/cat (mainly the dog) around his shifts and I am more than welcome to do what I want that works best for me but that he would obviously like it to align with his the best it can but then I feel I have to do what he does vs what I do because of the dog so not much compromise? My friends and other relatives have had dogs and from my understanding it’s never needed to seem so rigid. I don’t know, feeling a bit deflated and have no idea who to ask on what’s fair

I hate to say it but you are coming across as immature. He is right that he needs to stick to the routine with his dog, especially with living in a flat.

RetirementIsGreat · 19/04/2024 19:45

HoppingPavlova · 19/04/2024 18:38

@RetirementIsGreat Why would you move in with a guy that just wants to share the bills? I would only move in if he says he loves you and wants to be with you all the time. Sharing the bills is more like moving in with a friend

Not sure it’s that he ‘just wants to share bills’. By OP’s admission she is there pretty much full-time and pays no rent or bills. She contributes to food. If this were reversed and she was a man doing this, she would have 100% of Mumsnet telling her to get rid of the cocklodger. So, a female version essentially, staying virtually full-time and not paying her way. The boyfriend is wise to this and has basically said as she is there full-time anyway, how about actually paying fair share of rent/bills which is not unreasonable.

Ok I get you now. I took it the wrong way. You're right.

GoldEagle · 19/04/2024 19:53

Let him take care of the dog, he knows it's routine.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 19/04/2024 20:31

Dogs in flats need to be walked/let out regularly. Otherwise they get stressed and behave poorly, destroy things, bark, ruin furniture and flooring toileting inside etc. You don’t have to do it but and trying to stop him going to bed when he wants and meeting his dogs needs is awful frankly. He sounds lovely, responsible and considerate. You sound selfish and needy. Also it’s nothing to do with the cat.

Stardustmoon · 19/04/2024 21:17

Generally don't understand the problem here. You want to lay in, he doesn't. You move in together and he can continue his routine. Lots of people like to go to bed at the same every night. You are making this a problem when it doesn't have to be. He says night. You stay up. YABU to expect him.to stay up because you don't want to go to bed.

Whatinthedoopla · 19/04/2024 21:23

Only because you want to pay for things, it does not mean that the dog and cat have to suffer. As with kids, they need to have a routine. If you want to have children, start getting used to doing things you don't want to do, like going for walks at times you don't want to. This will show how to look after pets and children, and strengthen your relationship

OldPerson · 19/04/2024 21:43

You can't change other people.

He evolved his life routines to work for him. The dog is his dog. Sp don't get involved. Because take it as read - the human/dog relationship is sacred. He doesn't want your money and he doesn't want your interference.

But I don't understand, if he's always managed his own dog, why you moving in is a problem for dog walks?

Equally, he can't change you.

You're always going to be a lie in bed sort of person. And happy doing it.

Personally the fact that he's so organised, caring and responsible for his dog and cat, makes him sound like a very decent guy - and good dad material.

You realise right, that children need to get up early, get dressed and ready for school? And the better the daily routine, generally speaking, the happier, more confident and more well-behaved the children.

So just focus on the important stuff, like keeping the home environment as you would both like it and enjoying spending more time together.

If living together doesn't work out or make you happy, chalk it up to experience and move on.

Borrowedtime · 20/04/2024 01:02

Partners living together both need to give and take. This sounds as if he isn't planning to make any adjustments to accommodate what you need and want. He needs to realise that it would become your home too and you should have a say in things. I wouldn't be moving in to his place if he is so set in his ways. I'd be suggesting starting afresh together in a new place, but maybe that's for the future.

meeraraj · 20/04/2024 03:06

Hi there,

You are NOT being unreasonable, only worried.

TBH, this may be a wrong forum as well. Most of us are mothers and appreciate men who understand routine, having lived with men of the other kind for far too long ;)

I totally understand, though. The pets are but a symptom of the deeper things, as you likely know. A word of advice: Let the man and his pets be; don't get involved. He has a good thing going and you get to play with them without the work. You don't get a seat at the table simply by paying half.

While saying that, I feel you. My DH is the same. Thinks my lifestyle isn't great (I am lazy, can't get my exercise routine done, etc.) and maybe little suggestions here and there but largely lets me be. I don't care too much; I think he's too rigid too, and have expressed that. But then we're in our 40s and evolved differently. Now we have about two hours where we are together. Works for us.

If you want to be with him, you'll have to be supremely confident and find schedules that work. It's a lot of work and battling your inner self, TBH.

It's not worth it. As many have said here, you may become like him later, but then, you may not!

noodlebugz · 20/04/2024 04:35

I think for a dog in a flat your BF is right. And if you broke up they’d be his pets. So have a lie in and let him walk the dog if that’s his routine 😛

Angrywife · 20/04/2024 13:08

Think you're over thinking it.
30+ years together and we've never done the synchronised bedtime, get up time thing. That to me is odd.

I like to stay up late, and sleep in late. He is up with the lark, he doesn't need me by his side all morning and I don't need him with me late evening when he's in bed.

If you want to be with someone, you find work arounds, you do what fits, you compromise.

lemming40 · 20/04/2024 15:10

This relationship isn't going to work long term. Might as well end it now.