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AIBU for paying child caused damage out of wedding gift money?

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Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 13:33

Let me start by saying i will absolutely always offer or even insist to pay for damage that my child (or I, I‘m clumsy) caused. But this one i thought was unnecessary.

My DC accidentally broke a plate - a regular, plain, rented plate, nothing fancy, no family heirloom - at a wedding. I apologised and cleaned it up. I did not offer to replace it because it was just a plate at a wedding venue, i thought those damages were kind of included.

Additional info: I know the groom was trying to safe every penny in advance of the wedding while the bride wanted everything extravagant and chic and the pair asked for money as gifts. The wedding was at an expensive instagram-worthy location(castle) but they saved money on everything regarding the guests like low budget food(not even enough) and few drinks.

The groom asked me to replace the plate in front of all the other guests. I was honestly a bit taken aback as i still had the envelope with enough money to more than cover my meal in my purse.
So i reached into my purse, took the envelope, took one of the two 100£ notes out and handed it to him saying „This should cover it, you can give me the change later.“

So basically everyone including the groom realised that i just reduced his gift money. Was i being unreasonable?

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phoenixrosehere · 17/04/2024 19:02

AssassinsEyebrow · 17/04/2024 18:32

I think its says far more about him that he rang you to apologise the next day than his original faux pas.

The first was understandable given the pressure he felt / circumstances even if it was uncalled for, but very few people in life apologise when they're wrong, let alone give a prompt and genuine one or provide it while emotions are still high.

Decent bloke, I think.

I agree and also agree with the wife. If my child had broken something even accidental, I would have offered to pay, not just assumed they had insurance. Could have been handled better and is good that he apologised.

OP’s disdain for this wedding is what caught my attention more than anything. Could have chosen not to go if it was such a nuisance to attend.

surreygirl1987 · 17/04/2024 19:02

JamesPringle · 17/04/2024 13:36

I think you're a fucking hero for doing that. I wouldn't have had the balls.

Same! You're amazing!

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 19:02

AssassinsEyebrow · 17/04/2024 18:32

I think its says far more about him that he rang you to apologise the next day than his original faux pas.

The first was understandable given the pressure he felt / circumstances even if it was uncalled for, but very few people in life apologise when they're wrong, let alone give a prompt and genuine one or provide it while emotions are still high.

Decent bloke, I think.

He‘s still a cheapskate for other reasons as well but people aren‘t black and white and he‘s definitely not all bad. His mother made him apologise and he might be hoping for the rest of the gift money. he also blamed it on his mental health and i can‘t say if thats an excuse or true. I‘m not quite sure what to make of it but while i may or may not give him the rest of the money i‘m not super keen on meeting him and his wife in the future if it can be avoided i think..

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ThanksItHasPockets · 17/04/2024 19:11

I hope you changed a few details, OP, as this scenario will be instantly recognisable to anyone who was there - especially when if this thread is picked up by the press.

Pickled21 · 17/04/2024 19:11

He apologised and quite rightly so I'd let it go now. I don't have any issues with how you behaved. I do think poorly of people who care about how their wedding looks over making sure their guests are well fed. If money is an issue then you budget accordingly even if that means having fewer people.

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 19:11

phoenixrosehere · 17/04/2024 19:02

I agree and also agree with the wife. If my child had broken something even accidental, I would have offered to pay, not just assumed they had insurance. Could have been handled better and is good that he apologised.

OP’s disdain for this wedding is what caught my attention more than anything. Could have chosen not to go if it was such a nuisance to attend.

there were some issues leading up to the wedding. They made everyone in the family help out, take vacation days, made a Whatsapp group to borrow stuff for their wedding and asked DHs aunts to prepare desserts and appetizers to safe on food costs(they only bought the main dish from the caterer), talked endlessly about that wedding on xmas, easter and every birthday leading up to the event. Nothing too bad but all a bit cheeky and ungrateful to then ask for a plate to be replaced.

So you’re right, there was absolutely a bit of disdain from my side, i propably wouldn’t have had the courage to speak up if i hadn’t already been worked up about it in a way.

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Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 19:12

ThanksItHasPockets · 17/04/2024 19:11

I hope you changed a few details, OP, as this scenario will be instantly recognisable to anyone who was there - especially when if this thread is picked up by the press.

sure did ;)

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GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 17/04/2024 19:16

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 19:12

sure did ;)

It was two €500 notes rather than £100 ones wasn't it? 🤣💶💶

penjil · 17/04/2024 19:16

JamesPringle · 17/04/2024 13:36

I think you're a fucking hero for doing that. I wouldn't have had the balls.

Ha! Yes, it was a bloody brilliant move, wasn't it?! 😂❤️😂

easylikeasundaymorn · 17/04/2024 19:17

honestly given your update I wouldn't bother giving the extra £100.

£100 is already generous for a cousin, he doesn't have to pay for the plate out of it (unsurprising the company didn't charge for one broken plate, I'd be surprised if they even would have known about it if he hadn't told them, are they really going to be counting back every single plate?).

Two adults and 1 small child (discounting the baby whom I assume didn't eat anything) wouldn't have cost that much to host, particularly stingy portions. I would consider £100 to be more than enough as a present even if he hadn't humiliated you - the fact he apologised (while good) doesn't negate it! Presumably attending the wedding cost you some money as well, in travel/outfits, etc? If they couldn't afford a big wedding they shouldn't have had one, not just cross their fingers and hope their guests give them enough money to pay for it!

neverendingcold · 17/04/2024 19:18

GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 17/04/2024 19:16

It was two €500 notes rather than £100 ones wasn't it? 🤣💶💶

I'm guessing it was a wine glass that was broken

Checkitt · 17/04/2024 19:19

Aren’t you worried about being outed by this thread? It’s a bit odd to take such a niche family tiff about someone’s wedding to a public forum.

You come across the worst in all this. It’s not your fault the plate smashed but do you then need to critique their wedding choices? Should they have hired more expensive plates so your child doesn’t smash them as easy? It’s quite rich to expect to have a second plate of food too - you usually get each meal catered per person so I’m not sure why you’d expect a second serving. Plus what is with the judgement of your “insta worthy commentary?” It’s a wedding, of course it’s going to be picturesque and it’s not unusual for couples to put effort into decor at a wedding. Why does it need to be called “insta worthy” as opposed to nice wedding decor? What’s really the issue here?

there’s no correlation to their budget and your child smashing the plate, but you seem to take being asked to pay for damages as free reign to criticise the entire wedding. It’s weird, deflective behaviour

penjil · 17/04/2024 19:19

I'd keep the other £100 as compensation for any embarrassment at the way he asked you to pay in front of other guests.
👍

Jk8 · 17/04/2024 19:20

🤣 possibly the best responce I've seen to a request for money on mumsnet.

I would have loved to have been there for it 😂

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 19:21

GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 17/04/2024 19:16

It was two €500 notes rather than £100 ones wasn't it? 🤣💶💶

No but you guys almost got me on the £100! How was i supposed to know the english don‘t have such a normal bill? Thanks for scotland and its castles(it was another posh venue btw😂)

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Newestname002 · 17/04/2024 19:24

@Blackcats7

I once went to a very posh wedding where the groom (who was very much a groomzilla and his bride barely got a look in) was well aware my husband and I were vegetarian ( he frequently ridiculed anyone who didn’t live on beef on the bone) but there was no meal for us because he had chosen seafood starter, cottage pie main and suet sponge for pudding.

This is beyond rude. Did he acknowledge his poor behaviour at all either at the dinner or afterwards? I'd really resent having troubled myself with the expenses incurred (including the wedding gift) in attending the wedding of someone so uncaring of my needs. 🌹

EarthlyNightshade · 17/04/2024 19:41

Checkitt · 17/04/2024 19:19

Aren’t you worried about being outed by this thread? It’s a bit odd to take such a niche family tiff about someone’s wedding to a public forum.

You come across the worst in all this. It’s not your fault the plate smashed but do you then need to critique their wedding choices? Should they have hired more expensive plates so your child doesn’t smash them as easy? It’s quite rich to expect to have a second plate of food too - you usually get each meal catered per person so I’m not sure why you’d expect a second serving. Plus what is with the judgement of your “insta worthy commentary?” It’s a wedding, of course it’s going to be picturesque and it’s not unusual for couples to put effort into decor at a wedding. Why does it need to be called “insta worthy” as opposed to nice wedding decor? What’s really the issue here?

there’s no correlation to their budget and your child smashing the plate, but you seem to take being asked to pay for damages as free reign to criticise the entire wedding. It’s weird, deflective behaviour

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I have to assume you are new to Mumsnet.

Squish12 · 17/04/2024 19:42

The groom asked me to replace the plate in front of all the other guests.

If someone did that to me in front of everyone over an accident I'd just trun around a leave 😄 wth was he thinking?!

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 19:43

EarthlyNightshade · 17/04/2024 19:41

I have to assume you are new to Mumsnet.

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Why? I think she‘s making a very good point that you should be careful about what you post.

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tomkat81 · 17/04/2024 19:44

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Noyesnoyes · 17/04/2024 19:44

I totally applaud you OP!

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 17/04/2024 19:46

When I worked in catering we rented cutlery and dishes from an external third party and we were liable for the cost of missing items, this was built into the fee we charged clients so it's possible the venue/caterers wouldn't even ask for a replacement. He sounds unpleasant either way I though.

Zhampagne · 17/04/2024 19:46

mitogoshi · 17/04/2024 14:52

@Toffifee1

There's £100 in England too, it's just few of us ever see them because we use cards.

I like your style op. To be honest every time a couple requests money I deliberately buy a gift card, cannot abide by people asking for money (I'm getting married this year and I've state no gifts at all, I'm not inviting people for them to give me presents, also we have plenty of good food and no castle!)

There aren’t. The biggest denomination in England and Wales is £50: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/current-banknotes

Current banknotes

We have four different notes currently in circulation.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/current-banknotes

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 19:53

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Was it a male cousin or a step sister, a plate or a glass, a castle or a yacht, £ or € or $.. it doesn’t even matter because noone in the family speaks english!
Changes are not important for the moral judgement though.

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kittensinthekitchen · 17/04/2024 19:58

Two things I've learned from this thread....

England don't have £100 notes. Or Google.

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