Liz Truss - what's going on there?

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Just watched her recent interview with Chris Mason on Newscast. Something is most definitely 'off.' Not just what she says, but her hand and facial expressions are peculiar - as if she's possibly medicated or drunk? She is in total denial - no surprise there - but just so odd. It's actually quite disturbing to watch. AIBU?

Only an extremely high does would make her sound like she does.

She's not going to be the first PM with a problem with alcohol and she won't be the last. Only a teetotal PM is safe. I'm not a Truss fan but drinking heavily often comes with the job.

Possibly Cluster B personality disorder?
One of the features: " has a style of speech which is excessively impressionistic but lacks detail"
A trait which also shows in Meghan Markle, her and Ms.Truss could talk for hours on end about absolutely nothing, the former with such confidence, no doubt thanks to her acting skills.

Botox I'd say!

And yes totally and utterly unhinged.

Word salads. They all do it.

She's drunk on the power she perceives to be coming her way.. Silly fucker that she is, she's sidled up to Bannon and his white supremacy agenda. Check out the alignment with all of that. The thing is, she is a woman so will get chucked under the bus as soon as she is no longer useful. Fuck you, Liz, you venal waste of oxygen.

She’s not in the PM job though. She was only in it for forty-odd days or so. Not enough time at being prime minister to get alcoholism really entrenched… having said that, she’d need a decent level of intoxication to help her maintain the delusional state she’s clearly in.

Churchill
Eden
Wilson
Thatcher
Johnson

All very heavy drinkers, if not certified alcoholics. I mean heavy drinkers is relative in Westminster

I don't know whether substances are involved, but she seems like someone who is howling internally at how much she's selling herself out.

She doesn't believe in the shit she's spouting. She used to be a fairly middle of the road, remain supporting realist. Now she's on a far right bucking bronco seeing if she can hang on to some dregs of reputation by courting nutjobs. She knows they're nutjobs, but they're all she has left.

I would imagine now and then she catches her own eye in the mirror and shudders a bit.

She is just going where the money is. I mean they all are. The middle of the road Tory is dead and buried.

I think you're giving her far too much credit. She seems to me to utterly lack self awareness and also to be enjoying every minute of this shitshow. She always seems high as a kite, I genuinely think she is drunk most days.

Language!!!

Of course Sunak doesn't drink at all. I'm not sure being stone cold sober is helping him at the moment.

Help him. Or, indeed, help us!

She appears really drunk in that video. She looks as though she's just a few minutes away from saying something really bad.

I don’t think she seemed this unhinged 5 -10 years ago. She was slurring her words and it’s quite a jump from Remainer to Trump/Farage supporter.

I think she has retreated to an alternative reality.

Agreed

I am a person of colour and I would rather have a decent person of colour to be first PM of a white majority country than Rishi Sunak or likes of Priti Patel or Suella. But yeah maybe with him, we would have avoided damage to the economy caused by Liz Truss.

She’s just confirming what we already knew, which is that she’s someone unburdened by ethics or competence, who shouldn’t be trusted with any position of responsibility at all, let alone one in government.

Almost all the Tories have always been like this underneath, I don't know why people are so surprised. As to how she got there, well, just look at the people who voted her in. Not to mention there are masses of dirty old men out there (our next door neighbour being one of them) who have been fantasising about Thatcher their entire lives and thought all their birthdays had arrived at once when the pound shop Maggie turned up. Their mortgages were all nicely paid up thanks, they didn't care that she wrecked the economy with her stupid pie in the sky obedient carrying through of whoever it was that actually came up with those stupid ideas.

I did have to laugh at the Penny Mordaunt anecdote though - isn't that the type of thing most people would use for their voting criteria these days? Never mind the policies, let alone their effects, what about that sword??

I have met a lot of politicians in my lifetime and it always amuses me the gloss that people give them (actually regarding them as better than they are) due to their status. In reality they are usually exactly as they were all those years ago at university when they were the spotty lot in the junior conservatives/politics society/young Labour nerds association.

A genuine few I have met are really extraordinary dedicated people. Most are not.

I thought nothing would shock me about the British public seeing as they decided Brexit was a good idea but I was wrong: a while to go yet but Truss is widely predicted to keep her seat at the next GE.
Perhaps they are right and we do get the politicians we deserve.

Can you blame Brexiters for Truss if she was a Remainer?

I agree that it takes a particular kind of person to want to do all the council meetings and campaigning - and then you have to develop a really thick skin to survive, which probably reduces your ability to listen to opposing views and leads to cognitive bias.

But she does seem to be unusually unhinged. Leaving aside policy, she doesn’t seem to realise that she only had the support of a small group of Conservative Party members, who themselves are rather detached from reality. She blames ‘North Londoners’ instead of facing the fact that she never had the democratic or parliamentary party support she needed to be PM.

It's all relative. Without putting down names of individuals I think it is quite hard for people to see politicians are they really are. They work very hard to avoid showing those elements which are unattractive in any way.

Truss is unusual is as much as she is appearing not to bother at all. But she is being rewarded for that by someone, and that is why. I am unconvinced that it is new. People do not change that much

Can you blame Brexiters for Truss if she was a Remainer?

This is a bit of a conundrum. Truss was co-author of the Brexiter's bible, Britannia Unchained, which advocated throwing off what the authors imagined were the chains of EU membership. At the same time though, she took a rare moment to consider what this might actually mean for people, in particular her daughters;

“I don’t want my daughters to grow up in a world where they need a visa or permit to work in Europe; or where they are hampered from growing a business because of extortionate call costs and barriers to trade.”
“Every parent wants their children to grow up in a healthy environment with clean water, fresh air and thriving natural wonders. Being part of the EU helps protect these precious resources and spaces.”

So was she really a Remainer or a Brexiter? Her various statements in 2016, delivered with her usual 100% sense of certainty, were contradictory.

Did she initially support Remain because of the concerns she expressed regarding her daughters' futures, or did she back Remain because she thought that this would be the winning side?

Did she very suddenly and very decisively change sides because she actually believed that Brexit was the best course (having stated the complete opposite just weeks earlier) or was she only thinking of furthering her own career?

Is she having a very public meltdown because even she can see that everyone has cottoned on to her arrogance, incompetence and ignorance? Or is she uncomfortable because having taken the money she now has to dance to whatever tune her paymasters tell her to?