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He wants me to transfer the money. AIBU to be put off now?

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whatasneezeyone · 13/04/2024 22:02

Had a date. Went for sushi 🍣

I got a few dishes and he seemed to be counting his coming through. I got some strawberry cheesecake mochi and he said 'that looks nice. I'll try it maybe one time. Spend enough today ahahaa'

Went to tap the card as we agreed to split the bill

I did my half and my card got declined. I said to the waiter, quick as a flash, I'll need to insert my pin because I've probably tapped too many times now

The man I was with on the date said 'let me just get this, please'

And he tapped.

He's now messaging this evening saying 'can you transfer your half? As we did agree to go half. It's Santander xxx yyy lll'

The followed up straight away with a link and saying 'fancy this next week?'

So I have. And haven't replied back to say it's done

AIBU to not be interested now? Just seems a bit petty.

I personally would've just left it if the shoe was on the other foot

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Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:37

Janetime · 14/04/2024 08:34

Agree, the op should have offered to pay him back immediately or said no that’s fine I will put my pin in.

if a man behaved as the op did there would be outrage.

Actually no, if a man posted saying we'd agreed to go halves, my contactless was declined because I needed to put my pin in, I was about to put my pin in but then the woman I was on a date with said oh no don't worry I'll get it. Then she messaged me and asked for half of it back.

I'd think the same of her!

peacocksuite · 14/04/2024 08:39

I wouldn't go ahead either. It feels petty. If he likes you most blokes would write off £30. I wouldn't want to have such a transactional relationship.

It could also suggest indecisiveness, ie in the moment he was happy to pay but then doubted the decision.

Or there is the earlier point of him wanting to look like the big man to the waitress, only to then to send a mealy-mouthed request for the money later.

It's a shame as you say but none of these are great qualities.

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:39

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 14/04/2024 08:37

All the people telling OP to go on another date with him or otherwise defending him are somehow making me more certain the OP shouldn't! Grin

I'd pay for the whole meal in order to never end up in a relationship with anyone that didn't know that there's a limit on the number of contactless transactions you can have. It's a basic anti-fraud measure. If you don't know about that, what other basic information do you lack?

I can only assume that people who don't know this are fellow tightwads who have never used their contactless enough the same day to have it happen to them.

Bookworm1111 · 14/04/2024 08:40

RhapsodyinBlue2 · 14/04/2024 08:37

What interests me is whether or not a tip was left for the waitress you mentioned. I suspect not, given the odd amount of the bill, in which case you are both being unreasonable.

I'd also be interested to know how much of the bill was actually her share, given it sounds from the OP that she ordered more dishes than him. Say £40 of the final bill was hers and the rest was his, she's the U one expecting him to cover it all. She's been asked, but hasn't said, which makes me suspect that's the case. Him then going halves would actually be a nice thing.

Minniliscious · 14/04/2024 08:40

@Plumeface Exactly! It happened to me on holiday recently.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 14/04/2024 08:40

Flocke · 14/04/2024 08:35

Yeah I would use declined.
I actually now get a notification on my app when I use contactless and it doesn't work and it says "declined"
But I have plenty of money in there and it works as soon as I put the pin in. But my card is a dick and makes me enter my pin far more often than it should im sure. I also find in sainsbury's that if i hold the card near the machine longer it is more likely to work first time. So maybe it's just me moving the card away too quickly. I don't know.

Yep, you can definitely screw up a transaction by taking the card away too soon. Just like if you took the card out too early after putting the pin in, during a chip-and-pin transaction.

BronwenTheBrave · 14/04/2024 08:42

OP offered to pay half. Date ended up paying full amount due to computer glitch. OP didn't immediately say she would transfer the money. Date had to ask for it. Date is probably thinking OP is a tightwad.
Imagine if the genders had been reversed…

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 14/04/2024 08:42

Cost of living vibes- gives me the ick.

Transfer him is half, you agreed to go halves before your card was declined? I wouldn’t see him again as it sounds like money is very, very important to you and that he doesn’t have enough or is tight. You aren’t on the same page, it’ll be a constant battle. Totally agree! @BronwenTheBrave

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:43

BronwenTheBrave · 14/04/2024 08:42

OP offered to pay half. Date ended up paying full amount due to computer glitch. OP didn't immediately say she would transfer the money. Date had to ask for it. Date is probably thinking OP is a tightwad.
Imagine if the genders had been reversed…

Ffs it wasn't a computer glitch, all OP had to do was enter her pin which she immediately offered to do.

I'd say exactly the same if the genders were reversed.

Zanatdy · 14/04/2024 08:44

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:12

It's not that she's annoyed he didn't pay for the first date, it's that he offered to pay and then backtracked later.

Are people deliberately being obtuse or are they unable to read?

She said she thinks he’s tight. Why would she think that if she didn’t expect him to pay for the first date.

Tiny2018 · 14/04/2024 08:44

Another one here who thinks he was probably embarassed so panicked and offered to pay then and there with the expectation of you paying him back.

I don't know whether you met him through online dating or not but a lot if women still expect men to pay for everything. If a bloke gets a date every weekend, that ends up being expensive. Women wanted equality, we got it so it's only fair that we to split bills on dates too. Can't have it both ways.

BronwenTheBrave · 14/04/2024 08:45

It’s definitely the man’s fault.

TunaCrunchy · 14/04/2024 08:46

OP why didn’t you offer to transfer him the money straight away, you’d already agreed to go halves? You seem like the tight one?

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:46

Tiny2018 · 14/04/2024 08:44

Another one here who thinks he was probably embarassed so panicked and offered to pay then and there with the expectation of you paying him back.

I don't know whether you met him through online dating or not but a lot if women still expect men to pay for everything. If a bloke gets a date every weekend, that ends up being expensive. Women wanted equality, we got it so it's only fair that we to split bills on dates too. Can't have it both ways.

I hate to contradict you but women do not have equality.

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:47

TunaCrunchy · 14/04/2024 08:46

OP why didn’t you offer to transfer him the money straight away, you’d already agreed to go halves? You seem like the tight one?

Because she thought he was offering to pay, otherwise he'd have just let her put her PIN in.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 14/04/2024 08:49

Zanatdy · 14/04/2024 08:44

She said she thinks he’s tight. Why would she think that if she didn’t expect him to pay for the first date.

Because he (at least seemingly) offered to pay and then backtracked? If you make an offer and then retract it, it usually makes other people think less well of you than if you'd never offered at all.

gannett · 14/04/2024 08:49

I'd be very unimpressed by him leaping in waving his card around when it's perfectly commonplace that one card doesn't work and you need to use another. Definitely wanted to look like the big man paying to the waitress (who certainly wouldn't have given a shit). In the moment I hope I'd have been able to say "no, you don't need to do that" but if the OP was taken by surprise that's understandable.

However if the OP is really refusing to pay then the tight one is her. The original agreement was (correctly) to go halves and his weird behaviour doesn't negate that. I'd pay but probably not see him again.

AnotherEmma · 14/04/2024 08:49

Cassidyscircus · 14/04/2024 08:27

I’m a woman but have been the man in this situation before. We’d agreed at the start of the meal to go halves, when it came time to pay his card was declining on contactless so I said ‘don’t worry I can get it’ because I felt sorry for him and didn’t want him to be embarrassed.
his half was about £35 quid which isn’t a lot of money but money better spent on my child/cat 😂 and I’m not super wealthy.

i didn’t ask for it back but that is because I wasn’t confident enough to 🫠

I certainly didn’t offer to make myself look good or save the day etc. I was just trying to be a nice human.

I don't understand why you or the OP's date just jumped in to pay when you didn't actually want to.

As countless PPs have pointed out, it's common for contactless transactions to get declined the first time, and it's not embarrassing. You just try contactless again, or insert the card and type your PIN, or worst case scenario, use another card.

Even if none of those methods have worked, surely the right response is "shall I pay it and you can pay me back?" Or - if you definitely want another date and can afford to cover this one - "shall I get this and you pay next time?"

gannett · 14/04/2024 08:50

And actually the most distasteful element of this whole saga is the OP sneering at "cost of living vibes" in this thread. Gross. Grosser than him waving his card around. Maybe they're suited after all.

TheCatOnTheBedIsAllMineAllMine · 14/04/2024 08:52

Tight bastard

Tiny2018 · 14/04/2024 08:52

Plumeface perhaps not, but enough to be able to earn and pay towards half of a restaurant bill.

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:52

AnotherEmma · 14/04/2024 08:49

I don't understand why you or the OP's date just jumped in to pay when you didn't actually want to.

As countless PPs have pointed out, it's common for contactless transactions to get declined the first time, and it's not embarrassing. You just try contactless again, or insert the card and type your PIN, or worst case scenario, use another card.

Even if none of those methods have worked, surely the right response is "shall I pay it and you can pay me back?" Or - if you definitely want another date and can afford to cover this one - "shall I get this and you pay next time?"

Exactly! Why pay when you don't want to pay, especially when OP clearly said she just needed to put her PIN in. Bizarre behaviour.

SheepAndSword · 14/04/2024 08:52

gannett · 14/04/2024 08:50

And actually the most distasteful element of this whole saga is the OP sneering at "cost of living vibes" in this thread. Gross. Grosser than him waving his card around. Maybe they're suited after all.

Please don't, I'm imagining years of non stop bickering over minor things

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 14/04/2024 08:52

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:47

Because she thought he was offering to pay, otherwise he'd have just let her put her PIN in.

Or maybe panicked and offered to pay. Either way OP’s cost of living vibes isn’t exactly covering herself in glory.
She also comes across as tight.
They agreed to go halves, her card was declined so he used his.

Plumeface · 14/04/2024 08:53

Tiny2018 · 14/04/2024 08:52

Plumeface perhaps not, but enough to be able to earn and pay towards half of a restaurant bill.

Except OP never objected to paying half (and has paid it!). What she was objecting to was the fact he said he would pay and then backtracked.

I'm seriously failing to understand why people are failing to grasp that.

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