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To have had it with friend’s selfish attitude?

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CherryShirt · 13/04/2024 15:40

I have a friend, Sarah, who I’ve known since uni. We’re from the same city originally, so continued to be close after uni, as we both moved back.

I moved to London several years ago now and, while I still see Sarah, I don’t feel as close to her as I once did. She still makes a massive deal of us being best friends, to the point that she once got quite huffy when I introduced her to someone as “one of my oldest friends” instead of my best friend.

Sarah has always had a selfish streak, but I’ve put up with that because she’s a good friend in other ways. However, it’s started to get worse in recent years. Examples:

When I go home for the weekend, she always wants to go out on Friday night, which means either I have to book the afternoon off work to travel or go out straight off the train, taking my bag with me and not getting home until after my parents are in bed, which is unfair on them. There’s no reason we could meet on Saturday - she just really loves her nights out, so gets excited as soon as the weekend hits. Then she goes too hard on Friday night and is too hungover to meet on Saturday. A couple of times when we have agreed to meet on Saturday, she’s cancelled at the last minute because of “a touch of flu” or similar (which is always miraculously cured by Sunday when she calls hoping I’ll come out then instead 🙄). Then she complains she hardly sees me!

She invited me to join her at her aunt’s holiday home in Spain - which is a lovely gesture, but just wasn’t practical at the time. I was about to change jobs and didn’t have any annual leave left; the only way I could have gone was if I’d been able to negotiate unpaid leave. She couldn’t believe I wouldn’t go; she kept saying “It’s free. Who turns down a free holiday?!” She wouldn’t get that losing £600 in wages, before I even considered flights, was hardly free…

I'd gone to our home town for another friend’s birthday party and to see an art trail that was on. Because of the party, I couldn’t meet Sarah in the evening, but asked if she wanted to come on the art trail. I got the whole “Awwh, but I want to go OUT out though” routine. I said I’d already made a commitment. She had a massive strop later when she realised the party was for someone she very vaguely knew (they’ve met twice). She wanted to know why I hadn’t asked her to go along and said she was “hurt”.

Anyway, I think the straw has arrived that will break the camel’s back. Sarah wants to come down to London for bank holiday weekend. I currently have another friend, Kate, staying for a while as she’s split from her partner. As Sarah hadn’t mentioned booking a hotel, I wondered if she’d just assumed she could stay with me, so messaged her saying if she hadn’t got somewhere to stay that she was welcome to my sofa, but that Kate was using the spare room.

I got a reply saying “Great; see you then. Going to need that spare room though! Am too old to be sleeping on sofas! Lol.”

I just find the selfishness of this appalling. I haven’t gone into great detail about why Kate is staying, as it isn’t my place to do so, but Sarah knows it’s going to be for a few weeks - surely she can work out that Kate didn’t just fancy a change of wallpaper? Even if it was just “Sorry, Kate’s staying that weekend”, it would be tough luck - the room is in use and that’s that!

I haven’t even replied yet. I just know I’ll get a whole “But I’m your best friend” guilt trip. But I feel like I’m finished with enabling this crap.

OP posts:
FakeMiddleton · 14/04/2024 20:25

Oh, OP. I wish you hadn't replied to her! She's nuts and you're better off without her. Does she have any other friends?

Please don't message her back if she replies, or just give any of her BS guilt trip horrible messages a thumbs up emoji and block the cow.

Janetime · 14/04/2024 21:43

I think your response was good op. You gave your boundaries and options. I don’t agree with the pp urging you to ghost her and ignore her, you’re clearly better than that, that’s just immature.

howver I don’t like your friends manipulative response.

pictoosh · 14/04/2024 21:58

She's very manipulative isn't she?
Glad you set her straight and stuck to your guns.

lightmuller · 15/04/2024 08:09

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RainStreakedWindows · 15/04/2024 08:40

@CherryShirt did you hear back from her?

CherryShirt · 15/04/2024 16:37

Not yet. I think she’s waiting for me to crawl to her. I have learned my lesson on that!

OP posts:
Redpaisley · 15/04/2024 20:46

CherryShirt · 14/04/2024 09:29

Morning all 🙂 So I got a predictably guilt-trippy reply:

”I am disappointed. I was looking forward to a nice weekend together, but it seems like you’re not really bothered about whether I come down or not. Oh well”.

I sent back: “It’s nothing to do with not being bothered - I simply don’t have a spare room for you to sleep in. I’m not telling Kate that she’s got to give up her room; it isn’t fair”.

I can see she’s read the message, but she hasn’t replied. I’m in no rush to chase her up.

Just send a short reply -

So you expected me to kick Kate out of spare room? Sorry, that won't happen. Oh well.
and the don't engage further

Redpaisley · 15/04/2024 20:46

Sorry just you had sent a message after hers. Don't engage with her anymore.

FloofCloud · 16/04/2024 02:23

CherryShirt · 15/04/2024 16:37

Not yet. I think she’s waiting for me to crawl to her. I have learned my lesson on that!

It'll come, stand firm! She sounds like pretty hard work!!

Guavafish1 · 16/04/2024 02:28

Your friend sounds annoying.

Can Sarah and Kate share?

Codlingmoths · 16/04/2024 02:34

If you do offer to meet up on a sat night in your home town and she flakes , you have your reply drafted for you right there.

”I am disappointed. I was looking forward to a nice weekend together, but it seems like you’re not really bothered about whether I come down or not. Oh well”.
redraft:
”I am disappointed. I was looking forward to a night out together, but it seems like you’re not really bothered about whether I come down or not. Oh well”.

Bassetthoundears · 16/04/2024 02:39

Patchworksack · 13/04/2024 15:53

You need to be much clearer about what you want and stop bending over backwards to avoid a strop, then just repeat as necessary. ‘Sorry, the spare room is occupied, you can have the sofa or book a hotel’ ‘I’m driving back after work straight to my parents, I will be free on Saturday afternoon’ ‘thanks for offering the holiday, but I don’t have annual leave to take’
If it causes her to see you less that sounds like a win.

This is great advice^^

IndecentPropolis · 16/04/2024 02:45

She sounds awful. I’d ditch her.

LuckyMum1989 · 16/04/2024 03:33

Great response OP. And no, YANBU at all.

However, I think if you want to have any true friendship with Sarah going forwards, you'll need to have an honest chat with her.

It's very easy to tell people to ditch old friends (or quit their job, or leave their husband, or go NC with a relative) but not always that easy to do!

Next time you meet, (be it this visit or another), could you talk with her about this recent incident? Is there something about this friendship that is worth saving (or trying to) or is it time to walk away?

She may not change (and that's a different kettle of fish, and a different decision) but at least you'd know you'd done your best to re-establish the friendship on the right footing as it's gone off course somewhat.

I'm glad my friends haven't given up on me when I've been selfish, and I have friends who i've had to re-establish boundaries, forgive and move on when they have.

Sometimes people need a good friend to tell them when they're being a bad one!

I hope it works out, and that Sarah sorts herself out - or she will lose a lot of friends 😔 Kate is lucky to have you.

justanotherrandomperson · 16/04/2024 03:41

She was lucky you didn't "accidentally" drift out of contact with her a long time ago like I would've done. She sounds excruciatingly immature.

DaftyLass · 16/04/2024 03:46

It sounds like the friendship has run it course, these things happen, but she sounds like a bit of a dick to be sure.

takealettermsjones · 16/04/2024 04:08

I love reading threads where the OP has actually told the CF no! Bravo.

Topsyturvy78 · 16/04/2024 05:43

Sounds like about 12 why does she think she comes trumps over every else all the time?

Otherstories2002 · 16/04/2024 06:13

She’s an alcoholic I assume?

Bathyspheres · 16/04/2024 06:15

One of my friends was like this, knew her for years and she ditched me without a second thought when I didn’t let her have an item a family member wanted LOL.

Polishedshoesalways · 16/04/2024 06:17

She sounds lonely and like she needs the friendship far more than you do.
This puts her in a vulnerable position, which she is responding to by being highly manipulative.

I imagine she is in this position because she is unreasonable and selfish, and doesn’t consider other people’s needs or feelings.

This isn’t your problem op. If you do continue to see her, tell you her you are not going out on Fridays - you are heading straight to your parents and mean it. You can meet Saturdays only. Start putting in boundaries, as it appears she regularly oversteps. You seem to be way too accommodating of her demands up to now. Start saying no. She will get over herself eventually!

Pigeon31 · 16/04/2024 06:39

Sometimes you just drift away from old friends - it sounds like you have different interests and priorities now. You don't need to be mean or cause a massive scene but absolutely be clear that you're both grown ups now and when you tell her the spare room is taken but she is welcome to stay on the sofa, that was what you meant. Same as when you tell her you'd rather go out Sat than Fri because of the travelling, that's the deal now.

Scarletttulips · 16/04/2024 07:04

You are doing the right thing.

Next time you go home, I wouldn’t let her know what time you are arriving - go Friday night go home and see your parents and then call her Saturday?

You sound too honest with her -

And no Sarah and Kate can’t share - who wants a stranger in their room? People moan about sharing a hotel room let alone your own space?

Twiglets1 · 16/04/2024 07:06

She sounds narcissistic as thinks it’s all about her. Sometimes people like that can be fun when you’re younger as they tend to be outgoing & confident. But less fun as you get more mature and they don’t.

Sounds like your friendship is coming to a natural end and she is making it easy for you to pull away. It will be harder for her to accept once she realises you are serious with your boundaries so you can expect more guilt tripping.

custardlover · 16/04/2024 07:11

You've been more than reasonable.

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