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DH doesn't understand why this is rude, AIBU?

319 replies

Pony67 · 13/04/2024 10:17

Me and DH are out all day today (not together but both working all day).

My parent was coming over to ours to look after our young child.

I have just found out that my husband has told his ex its fine to drop his son off at our house so she can go out (he is 12). He has also told SS that he can have a friend over too.

Aibu to think this is so SO rude when he knows my parent is at home (and is likely the reason he said it was fine to drop him off).

My parent doesn't really know SS well at all, they aren't close, not like a grandparent / grandchild relationship at all.

SS is a good kid but pretty immature in some ways I.e. I imagine there will be lots of asking for food instead of just getting it himself or drinks or asking if he and friend can go to the park or wherever. All of which I don't feel my parent should need to deal with and is unfair to expect them to especially with things like asking to go out. It shouldn't be on my parent to check they are back in time, check where they are going etc etc...

DH doesn't think it's a problem because he's old enough not to need "loads of care". I disagree and think if he knew my parent was there to care for our DC he should have asked.

My parent hasn't said anything other than to tell me SS and friend had turned up and did I know. But they wouldn't do because they are too nice. I feel like husband has taken advantage a bit.

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 13/04/2024 14:46

GnomeDePlume · 13/04/2024 14:43

Weaponised infantilisation: how can you even think of leaving our 144 month old to fend for himself

Incredibly bad manners by the husband. He owes the parent a full and unequivocal apology. Plus a solemn commitment to never be as thoughtless again.

Won't happen though. The arrangement suited him so he can't see a problem. You can see why he has an ex wife. I wouldn't want to be married to such a selfish arse.

Interesting isn’t it ? In these types of threads, the OP’s nearly always inadvertently reveal at least one of the contributing factors to the break up of the previous relationship !!

Greyat · 13/04/2024 14:49

DH should have let your parents know, but a 12yo should feel free to go to his father's home anytime, regardless of who else might be there IMO. Presumably 12yo would have been OK to go to the empty house.

pam290358 · 13/04/2024 14:49

Needmorelego · 13/04/2024 14:03

Wouldn't a 12 year old have their own front door key to their home though?
This child has 2 homes.
Surely he could just go there and let himself in? It's his home.

OP has already said he’s not left alone in their home all day - and clearly not when he’s with DM either, so the issue is not whether or not it’s his home, it’s whether he’s trusted to be alone in it. And it would appear not.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 13/04/2024 14:51

Greyat · 13/04/2024 14:49

DH should have let your parents know, but a 12yo should feel free to go to his father's home anytime, regardless of who else might be there IMO. Presumably 12yo would have been OK to go to the empty house.

Not according to the OP’s update. She and DH don’t leave him alone at home, and clearly his DM doesn’t either, or there would have been no need for her to drop him off in the first place.

Ohnodontwantthiscrush · 13/04/2024 14:52

Oh my god this is exactly the sort of thing my DH would do when my youngest DSD was that age. And her older really obnoxious sisters too.

I could be spending the day with my mum, going to a girls' boozy brunch or heading to yoga and I'd hear him shouting up 'the plans' to them in their rooms.

Any arrangements taking place with my extended family were suggested to his kids even when I wasn't there. He would have 100 percent done this.

And no he wasn't an idle Disney dad. He couldn't get enough time with them and if he had to be parted for whatever reason (eg was at work) honestly thought the whole world would be nothing short of thrilled to get some time with his girls. They in turn assumed the same which really didn't make the prospect anymore attractive.

In one way (theoretically only tbh) it was sweet of him but in another it was really problematic. He'd gush about how good they were, how funny, how they were no bother. In reality my siblings or parents sometimes didn't want a teenager they barely knew coming out for the day with them and their own kids especially if I wasn't even there. And given I'd been childfree up till meeting him my social engagements often involved alcohol and unsuitable adult conversation.

Sorry but your DH needs to be told loud and clear that (it's not a reflection of his son but)any minding falls under his remit.

Alondra · 13/04/2024 15:00

This place can be a hoot. We have many threads saying "grandparents shouldn't have to provide childcare" ...except if they are step kids without much of a relationship. Then is the fault of the step parent because it's also the child's home.

Got to love AIBU 😁

HesterPrincess · 13/04/2024 15:06

Your poor parent, I'd be absolutely furious to have that level of responsibility dumped on me without notice. I'm a grandparent with a step grandchild and I would want to be ASKED to look after him and have the responsibility of a friend as well, knowing how difficult his mother is.

He needs to get his arse home and relieve them, pronto. And grovel. What entitled behaviour.

BakewellGin1 · 13/04/2024 15:12

Regardless of whether full siblings or step siblings GP should still be given a heads up who they are having/expecting.

My own parents are informed if one child or both will need looking after/will be sleeping etc as regardless of whether they are hard work or not it's courteous

diddl · 13/04/2024 15:13

Instead of saying to his ex, "Sorry, I'm not at home to take care of him", he thought it'd be perfect for your parent to give free childcare.

That sounds about right doesn't it?

Otherwise there's no need to ask about dropping SS off as he would have a key & come & go as he pleased.

Depending on where his friend is it might also have been more convenient to stay at his Mum's.

Presumably his Mum knows that his dad won't be there?

bows101 · 13/04/2024 15:16

Ah, another classic step child thread.
Your husbands child.
Should be accepted into your household regardless.
Like your DH said, he is 12 and going out with a friend, self sufficient for a few hours. I don't see an issue. Yes it would have been polite to make your parent aware he was going to be dropped off, but it's not like your parent needs to watch him.
I would say YABU.

Lavenderflower · 13/04/2024 15:22

I think your husband is rude. That being said

Maray1967 · 13/04/2024 15:24

I’m a strong believer in SDC being created as part of the family, but your H should have checked that your parents were ok with looking after 3 kids not one!! They might have made plans for the younger child eg park trip, but wouldn’t know what to do when the older ones appeared. I wouldn’t want to just leave them in the house on their own. Your Dh should have asked first.

NoWayRose · 13/04/2024 15:25

It’s a running theme on Mumsnet that Dads who have their kids part time rope in someone else to care for their kids. Their mum, a new partner, new partner’s parents … and to not even ask!

Maray1967 · 13/04/2024 15:25

If your parents were not needed to actually supervise the older two, why couldn’t they stay at the mum’s house? That does not make sense.

SamBeckett · 13/04/2024 15:27

@Rosscameasdoody that look says if you remove me from my ladderi will remove some of you skin .

pinkyredrose · 13/04/2024 15:27

What happened Op, did your parent look after all 3 kids?

Nanny0gg · 13/04/2024 15:28

PrimalOwl10 · 13/04/2024 14:24

Hes not a little kid that requires care he's a 12 year old boy very much entitled to be in his father home. He's still part of that household and shouldn't be treated ant differently from his sm parents. Many boys that age won't be home alone. I'm thankful my son is treated with kindness and respect from all family members not an unwanted outsider.

Even if were my ACTUAL grandchild I'd bloody expect to be asked!

I have three DC. So if DC1 asked me to look after Matilda in their house I wouldn't expect DC2's Henry to just be dropped off without a by-your-leave or a would-you-mind.

Let alone with a friend in tow

Anameisaname · 13/04/2024 15:28

Pallisers · 13/04/2024 14:43

The step child thing is a complete red herring.

If I asked my parents to mind my 5 year old thinking my 12 year old was away for the day and then I was asked to change the plan so 12 year old and his friend were at my house instead, of course I'd call my parents to check in and ask if it was ok. Who wouldn't in those circumstances? They might have made plans to go out with the 5 year old or order lunch or whatever. Most people would pick up the phone and say "sorry about this mum but 12 year old and friend are planning/hoping to come home - is that ok? they'll mind themselves" Then the parents can ask if it is ok to go to the park and leave the 12 year olds on their own/do they need lunch/whatever. It is just common courtesy that OP's DH lacks.

Exactly this
The step child thing is a red herring. It's courtesy and politeness and also ensuring the responsible adult in the house knows what to expect and who to contact in an emergency

Nanny0gg · 13/04/2024 15:31

Oh, and if I was the GP in question I would be having words with my DD's partner (out of earshot of the children)

So he wouldn't pull that one again

mumedu · 13/04/2024 15:37

This is incredibly rude and really not OK behaviour on your husband's part. He cannot just volunteer your parents' services without asking permission.

mumedu · 13/04/2024 15:41

bows101 · 13/04/2024 15:16

Ah, another classic step child thread.
Your husbands child.
Should be accepted into your household regardless.
Like your DH said, he is 12 and going out with a friend, self sufficient for a few hours. I don't see an issue. Yes it would have been polite to make your parent aware he was going to be dropped off, but it's not like your parent needs to watch him.
I would say YABU.

I disagree with this. The parents will feel responsible for them if they're there. If nobody needs to watch them, why didn't they just hang out by themselves at the mum's place?

PhoenixReincarnated · 13/04/2024 15:43

It's all very well saying 12 year old don't need supervision butt you can guarantee if anything we're to happen the OP's parent(s) would be held responsible by at least some probably including CF DH

OP tell your parent(s) to take the little one to the park/out somewhere and tell your DH that that's what they're doing leaving the two 12 year olds home. See how he reacts.

RocketsMagnificent7 · 13/04/2024 15:48

Reallyneedsaholiday · 13/04/2024 13:16

I think it’s really rude to do this to ANYONE and he owes your parent a sincere apology.
on another note though, why does your parent not have a good relationship with your SS? I find that really sad.

It's not sad, it's quite obvious to work out.

OP and her husband don't have the stepson full-time, so the OP very likely sees her family on the occasions they don't have her stepson in order to use the time they do to see his family. It's perfect normal.

Needmorelego · 13/04/2024 15:54

Ok apologies......I missed that the Dad and the Mum don't want him unsupervised and home alone.
Anyway....... maybe I am a "more the merrier" type person because I (if I were the Grandparent) wouldn't have an issue with this at all.
But it's not my family....so 🤷

Alondra · 13/04/2024 15:58

Maray1967 · 13/04/2024 15:25

If your parents were not needed to actually supervise the older two, why couldn’t they stay at the mum’s house? That does not make sense.

That's a very good question.