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Guy lied about which university he went to

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Snoopy104 · 10/04/2024 17:30

We were talking about our backgrounds etc. And he told me he'd been to the 'uni of' of the town, which has a good rep.
I live pretty much next door to that uni so I asked him if he'd lived in halls close by.
He said no he'd lived in an area in the South of the city as his campus was based there.
The area he mentioned is a very nice, affluent neighbourhood and I had a look at the campus.
It turns out the 'uni of' doesn't have a campus there, it's the 'poly' that has a campus there.
I couldn't care less what uni he went to or even if he went to uni, I went to one of these so-called 'lesser' unis for my masters and I think in the grand scheme of things nobody really cares where you went, the right people wouldn't anyway.
However, the lying is a red flag for me. I get it was maybe to try and impress me or that he felt embarrassed, but the lying makes me uncomfortable. Would you say this is a red flag?

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OVienna · 12/04/2024 15:23

Have been thinking about this and I'd 100% want to know if someone was lame enough to lie about where they'd been to university. It would be a red flag.

These people aren't just insecure - they are showing they are likely to judge others too, IME. They might be snobbish or embarrassed or whatever. But ultimately they think it's important to go to the 'right' place, important enough to lie about it. I would definitely not want to be in a relationship with someone like that.

allypally33 · 12/04/2024 22:18

HouseofHills · 12/04/2024 10:19

“they may want people to think they are cleverer or higher achieving than they are”

It’s people with this attitude that makes people feel they need to lie or cover up with university they went to. In reality, it has nothing to do with intelligence or how how high achieving you are and everything to do with class background.

I studied 4 A-levels and got 3 As and a B. I went to a polytechnic because at the time I didn’t even know there was any difference between a redbrick or former-polytechnic. I just looked up universities that did the course I wanted and went with the one I liked best on open day. My parents didn’t go to university and weren’t in a position to guide me and my comprehensive sixth form college gave no information or guidance either.

I’m in a profession where many of my peers went to Oxbridge yet they’re in the same job as me and get paid the same.

The same applies to my husband who went to a very non-prestigious medical school because it was near his family home but it is now at the top of his field.

What attitude is that, exactly?
Factually, the difficulty of courses, calibre of the intake as a whole etc is generally higher in research-intensive/highly ranked universities. Whether you like it or not.

UK universities aren't the Ivy League with legacy admissions/sports scholarships/whatever so someone having gone to one implies that they were academic high achievers at the age at which they went to university. Even if they had external advice, tutoring etc they still managed to not only get the required grades, but graduate, so they must be capable.
That doesn't mean that someone who has gone to a 'lower-ranked' university isn't intelligence/high-achieving. Rather, this is not so obviously inferred.

Instead of thinking that people are 'looking down' on other grads. Those from red-brick universities are 'looked up' to. Everyone else is looked at a 'normal' level, rather than 'down' if that makes sense.

As an aside, there's no such thing as a 'non-prestigious' medical school in the UK. All Medicine courses are extremely competitive! Sure, in the world of competitive speciality training university name might make a difference but irrelevant to the average Joe.

BTW all the 'judgement' I'm talking about applies to the average Joe as well. In my field , the 'higher ranked' universities have courses that are uniformly difficult. Some 'lower ranked' punch very much above their weight but the majority have courses that are watered down and not very rigorous. Professionally it doesn't really matter to me, everyone has to pass the same tests/interview and if they're capable I don't care where the degree is from. Others might care more however.

GrannyRose15 · 13/04/2024 08:41

Run a mile. Anyone who will lie about something like this will lie about anything and everything. You can’t trust him.

RoseTraybake · 13/04/2024 10:02

I for one haven't seen enough of men treating women decently, and subconsciously men think they need money sometimes to win a woman. You have kids though so you are looking for a father figure and his lie might have made him look immature.

GrannyRose15 · 13/04/2024 17:27

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 11/04/2024 22:14

I once had an interview where the women interviewing me, mentioned seven times that she had been to Cambridge. Luckily I did not get the job.

I have a friend. Known him for years. Every time I see him, and I mean EVERY time he drops it into the conversation that he went to Oxford.

SusieLawson · 13/04/2024 17:57

>>>BTW all the 'judgement' I'm talking about applies to the average Joe as well. In my field , the 'higher ranked' universities have courses that are uniformly difficult. Some 'lower ranked' punch very much above their weight but the majority have courses that are watered down and not very rigorous. Professionally it doesn't really matter to me, everyone has to pass the same tests/interview and if they're capable I don't care where the degree is from. Others might care more however.<<<

So if you acknowledge they all have to pass the same tests, then the courses must be just as good?

allypally33 · 13/04/2024 18:20

SusieLawson · 13/04/2024 17:57

>>>BTW all the 'judgement' I'm talking about applies to the average Joe as well. In my field , the 'higher ranked' universities have courses that are uniformly difficult. Some 'lower ranked' punch very much above their weight but the majority have courses that are watered down and not very rigorous. Professionally it doesn't really matter to me, everyone has to pass the same tests/interview and if they're capable I don't care where the degree is from. Others might care more however.<<<

So if you acknowledge they all have to pass the same tests, then the courses must be just as good?

No. They end up needing to do lots of extra work outside the syllabi.
A lot of content of 'higher ranking' university syllabuses can be gotten for free online, you can even get textbooks and lectures for free.

changeme4this · 14/04/2024 09:49

In recent non Uk times, our DD stayed in private ‘halls’ or accomodation while attending year 2 and 3. So it is a thing.

having said that, I have an uncle who has claimed to have attended some high ranking uni’s (he didn’t) but now his DD’s are starting to get to know the rest of the family, he is laughing it off as a joke….

do your research but I would steer away if you are looking at it from a romantic perspective. My aunt can’t get away because of all the wonderful memories my U has of vast travels.. which is in his recollections as an employee.

eatingandeating · 14/04/2024 09:54

The issue here is not of what or which university (prestigious or otherwise). I've been to six universities for various studies/degrees and to one Poly (the last and the most practical, management skills oriented!). That tells you my age!! However, whenever I fondly mention the Poly I went to, I always add "now of course it's XYZ -- they're are all universities now". The issue is of transparency, especially if one is in the process of forming a presumambly long-term/medium-term relationship. We've all encountered swindlers and fraudsters projectiing a persona that is/may be suspect. Red flag? Maybe not, but making a mental note to verify in due course, certainly, before a potentially harmful pattern of deception takes shape. Based on TV documentaries, more men than women tend to create a false narrative in a developing relationship?

peakygold · 14/04/2024 13:29

I could never see the point of lying about which Uni you attended, because some smart alec is always going to start asking you questions because they went there.

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