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DD angry at mature student for inappropriate email

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KeepCalmPlease · 09/04/2024 23:11

NC just in case.
Daughter is angry this eve as a mature student on her course has mistakenly replied all to the class, instead of just her lecturer. In the email, apparently they brag about finishing their assigned work early, and then flirt about a shared hobby with lecturer. Daughter wants to bring this up formally with the institution along with other friends of hers. I haven't seen the email so I'm not sure what "flirting" is but I suspect the mature student, being older, just shares a hobby with lecturer (and likes being teachers pet).
My advice to her is just ignore the mistake, keep your head down and make sure your own work is done. AIBU?

I'm not sure why DD is so exasperated by this. I'm sure many emails fly about all day in academia.

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Rainraindontgoaway · 10/04/2024 19:47

Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 19:43

One of four things is true.

Your pension is crap.
You live off someone else.
You will be paying it back.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.

What you are not doing is retiring with a good pension and not paying a loan back.

Righty oh! You know best about my finances, thank god I have you to put me right 😂bye bye

Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 19:57

Rainraindontgoaway · 10/04/2024 19:47

Righty oh! You know best about my finances, thank god I have you to put me right 😂bye bye

It’s not whether I know about your finances, it’s like saying I’m going to claim a pension of £60000 and not pay tax. No you aren’t. Just like you aren’t getting a loan and not paying it back with a decent pension.

And the reality is you know I’m right, or you know you don’t know what you’re talking about which is why you haven’t explained to me why I am wrong.

CrazyHedgehogLover · 10/04/2024 19:59

@Otherstories2002 where is it any of your business what the PP does🧐? You sound like the OPs daughter.. another busybody who thinks they know what’s happening in everyone’s lives when in reality you don’t have any idea what pension this poster will receive (not really any of your business anyway🤷‍♀️).. whether they LIVE WITH SOMEONE not OFF someone else..
Whether or not they will actually have to repay the student loan back.. AND I’m sure this poster will have looked into what she will need to pay back.. how and with what.. so why the need for your stupid comments?

you just sound jealous that this poster is clearly excited and has ambitions for when retiring..

missshilling · 10/04/2024 20:01

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Rainraindontgoaway · 10/04/2024 20:04

Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 19:57

It’s not whether I know about your finances, it’s like saying I’m going to claim a pension of £60000 and not pay tax. No you aren’t. Just like you aren’t getting a loan and not paying it back with a decent pension.

And the reality is you know I’m right, or you know you don’t know what you’re talking about which is why you haven’t explained to me why I am wrong.

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You could not be more wrong in the assumptions you have made and I don’t need to explain myself to a random person like yourself. Like I have said previously it really has nothing to do with you.

KeepCalmPlease · 10/04/2024 20:13

CrazyHedgehogLover · 10/04/2024 19:59

@Otherstories2002 where is it any of your business what the PP does🧐? You sound like the OPs daughter.. another busybody who thinks they know what’s happening in everyone’s lives when in reality you don’t have any idea what pension this poster will receive (not really any of your business anyway🤷‍♀️).. whether they LIVE WITH SOMEONE not OFF someone else..
Whether or not they will actually have to repay the student loan back.. AND I’m sure this poster will have looked into what she will need to pay back.. how and with what.. so why the need for your stupid comments?

you just sound jealous that this poster is clearly excited and has ambitions for when retiring..

Please don't offensively bring my DD into your separate row !

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Abbimae · 10/04/2024 20:15

If reply all shows all emails it’s GDPR

Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 20:20

Rainraindontgoaway · 10/04/2024 20:04

You could not be more wrong in the assumptions you have made and I don’t need to explain myself to a random person like yourself. Like I have said previously it really has nothing to do with you.

Edited

Aka you don’t know what you’re talking about.

ASighMadeOfStone · 10/04/2024 20:20

Abbimae · 10/04/2024 20:15

If reply all shows all emails it’s GDPR

It's been explained upthread why, in this instance, it isn't.

Rainraindontgoaway · 10/04/2024 20:21

Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 20:20

Aka you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Bye bye

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Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 20:22

CrazyHedgehogLover · 10/04/2024 19:59

@Otherstories2002 where is it any of your business what the PP does🧐? You sound like the OPs daughter.. another busybody who thinks they know what’s happening in everyone’s lives when in reality you don’t have any idea what pension this poster will receive (not really any of your business anyway🤷‍♀️).. whether they LIVE WITH SOMEONE not OFF someone else..
Whether or not they will actually have to repay the student loan back.. AND I’m sure this poster will have looked into what she will need to pay back.. how and with what.. so why the need for your stupid comments?

you just sound jealous that this poster is clearly excited and has ambitions for when retiring..

Nothing wrong with having ambitions to take out loans with no intention of paying them back is not ok. It actually places the ability to access university for low income students at risk. It’s not ok. That’s the bigger picture.

Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 20:22

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She literally stated loans and not paying it back. There’s a bigger picture here.

Bellyblueboy · 10/04/2024 20:28

Why does it matter that the student is mature?

your daughter sounds a bit immature! This is why I would never be a lecturer or professor! Having to listen to all this faux outrage and drama over the silliest things.

Calliopespa · 10/04/2024 20:31

Bellyblueboy · 10/04/2024 20:28

Why does it matter that the student is mature?

your daughter sounds a bit immature! This is why I would never be a lecturer or professor! Having to listen to all this faux outrage and drama over the silliest things.

Sounds a bit like mumsnet at times 🙊

CrazyHedgehogLover · 10/04/2024 20:40

@KeepCalmPlease this thread created by yourself is about your daughter.. this person on here is literally acting no different to how you have described your daughter to be acting over this situation with the mature student..

CrazyHedgehogLover · 10/04/2024 20:41

@Otherstories2002 and that’s your problem how exactly? Whether she plans to pay it back or not really doesn’t affect your life.. your boring.. move along 🤣😴😴

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Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 20:44

CrazyHedgehogLover · 10/04/2024 20:41

@Otherstories2002 and that’s your problem how exactly? Whether she plans to pay it back or not really doesn’t affect your life.. your boring.. move along 🤣😴😴

you might view individual behaviours as isolated issues but I do not.

If I am boring might I suggest don’t engage with me? I didn’t ask you to.

Crispynoodle · 10/04/2024 20:47

Tell her to catch herself on! Mature students tend to think of lecturers as being their peers the rules are different but no lecturer that I know should be on any social media account with their students such as WhatsApp it goes against SM policy!

CupversusMug · 10/04/2024 20:51

Otherstories2002 · 10/04/2024 20:22

Nothing wrong with having ambitions to take out loans with no intention of paying them back is not ok. It actually places the ability to access university for low income students at risk. It’s not ok. That’s the bigger picture.

Don't be silly. What's putting the funding of University courses at risk is the stupid decisions made by our government.

From those that deter foreign students though to the ridiculous method of using the same metrics to assess the employability rates across courses, ignoring the vastly different costs involved between, for example, microbiology & history.

KeepCalmPlease · 10/04/2024 20:53

CrazyHedgehogLover · 10/04/2024 20:40

@KeepCalmPlease this thread created by yourself is about your daughter.. this person on here is literally acting no different to how you have described your daughter to be acting over this situation with the mature student..

There was I thinking we had moved on. My daughter certainly has. She is off to a jazz bar this eve !

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peebles32 · 10/04/2024 22:04

Even if the mature student was flirting. Why does that affect your daughter?

RadoxMoon · 10/04/2024 22:09

Crispynoodle · 10/04/2024 20:47

Tell her to catch herself on! Mature students tend to think of lecturers as being their peers the rules are different but no lecturer that I know should be on any social media account with their students such as WhatsApp it goes against SM policy!

I think almost every WhatsApp I’m on has at least one lecturer in it!

Maybe it’s different if it’s distance learning?

BrownTroutBlues · 10/04/2024 22:45

Emotionalsupportviper · 10/04/2024 17:05

I do not agree with people who are 40plus getting full student loans for fees and maintenance.

That's a different thing entirely.

But in that case perhaps you should be petitioning the government, rather than glaring angry at your neighbours

IME most people who get a student loan don't end up paying it all back. Many (even the young ones) don't pay any of it back.

Who said PP was glaring angrily at their neighbours!
Surely Its more sad disappointment that people would deliberately borrow money with no intention of paying any back!!!

If younger people finishing their degrees at age 21 never earn more than the minimum in their life in order to pay some of their loan back then that is extremely unusual.

Definitely not the norm and certainly not ‘Many’

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