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DP and arguments over my shoes

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cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:05

Hi MN, hoping for some advice/support here or maybe some of you could point me towards a middle ground for us both!

For context, me and DP of 2 years have quite different styles. I’m early 20s, quite conventionally attractive with a good figure(if I can say so myself!) but I like to dress in a more indie way, think loose jeans or long maxi dresses/skirts if I’m dressing up! This is quite different to what I believe is his “type” who are the instagram model types, short dresses, think Oh Polly and just generally very girly outfits. I’ve always had this particular 80s-indie/manic pixie dream girl style (I was a bit of an emo kid at school!!)

The issue here is my shoes. I’ve recently found out that he HATES my doc martens (which I wear with pretty much everything, and have been since we met), and he’s said he “wishes I wouldn’t ruin a lovely outfit with a pair of trainers or boots”. Basically, he wants me in high heels, short dresses, and just generally to look a bit girlier. I’m a bit hurt because I LOVE those boots and would wear them everywhere, I think they go with everything but he vehemently disagrees.

Before I get absolutely flamed on here, I am a feminist and yes I know I can wear what I want and am well within my rights to tell him to fuck off!! But, he takes me on lovely holidays, out for dinners, day trips - all of which he pays for - and I want to look nice for him. BUT I don’t know where the line is between this and staying true to myself.

I was a bit of an ugly duckling until my late teens so I’m quite insecure - I own several short dresses that I know he’d like but I can’t bring myself to leave the house in them!

I tried browsing for high heels today and I actually almost burst into tears because, although I found some lovely shoes, none of them are ME! Same thing for the short figure hugging dresses, I’d honestly feel so insecure and like everyone was thinking im trying too hard. Plus, I don’t think I could even walk in a pair of stilettos without breaking one or more ankles….

What do I do? Do I just suck it up and buy the heels and dresses and wear them for date nights, then wear what I like to work and out with friends?? Or can I (gently) remind him that my style is part of how I express myself and I’m not willing to change??

Worth noting I am ND and was picked on in school for this and also the way I looked which explains some insecurities.

YABU - suck it up and wear the clothes he likes for date nights
YANBU - stick to my own style and remind him it’s a part of my self expression?

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cocunut · 09/04/2024 19:01

Also the closed toe ones I can wear to work. Trying to force myself not to think too practically!

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cocunut · 09/04/2024 19:02

anon2022anon · 09/04/2024 19:01

They will both be very painful shoes.

Aaargh ok thank you! I don’t think I can get anything right! 😭😭

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Blackcats7 · 09/04/2024 19:03

You lost me when you started saying think blah blah blah. Why not just use words to say what you mean?

Branleuse · 09/04/2024 19:03

Could you compromise and get some pink sparkly Dr martens

MaryFuckingFerguson · 09/04/2024 19:04

What a twat. Even if doesn’t mean to come across as an old-fashioned perv, tell him no-one remotely interested in fashion wears high heels with short dresses any more.

Branleuse · 09/04/2024 19:05

All those high heels look shit.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 09/04/2024 19:07

Many years ago I had a friend whose ex had been like your bf. Bought her things, took her nice places. Let it be known he'd like her to wear her hair up. Then it was skirts and dresses with a nice smart heel, and a nice smart coat. She did all that for him for several years, then he dumped her and married someone from his family's social circle.
When I met her she looked ten years older than she was (early twenties). It was an absolute joy to see her discover her own style.
Which is a long winded way of saying that if you want to extend your footwear repertoire beyond DMs then do it. But do it for you. And I wouldn't recommend killer heels if all you've worn is DMs, you won't be able to walk in them, or feel secure, or comfortable.
My very funky niece wears irregular choice, but there are lots of lace up shoes, flatforms, fisherman's sandals etc that might fit your sense of style.
I have also been almost in tears when I was shopping for a wedding outfit. I finally decided that I didn't have to wear a dress and heels and a fascinator, and I immediately felt better. Don't lose your sense of self, and if he is worth his salt he won't expect you to. If the subtle digs continue, then he is not as nice as he seems.

HopeSpringsInfernal · 09/04/2024 19:07

ArcticOwl · 09/04/2024 19:05

Dazzling Diva Wide Fit | Irregular Choice

this might be a better place to start.

If you're not used to wearing heels, those things will kill you, start small/mid heel

Ooohh I love those!

MartinsSpareCalculator · 09/04/2024 19:08

Why is there no middle ground? Docs wouldn't be appropriate for somewhere fancy but that doesn't mean you have to wear heels surely?!

anon2022anon · 09/04/2024 19:09

The thinner the heel, the more pressure they put on the ball of your foot and the more balancing you have to do.

If you really want to try heels, go for a chunky heel, and a platform at the front gives you more height without putting your foot at quite an angle. Esska are apparently very good.

magicstar1 · 09/04/2024 19:09

I was reading your post thinking “who does he think he is” and then realised I did pretty much the same with my husband. I can’t stand men in slip on shoes etc. just boots, and even on our wedding day he got a great pair of New Rocks to wear, as did I. He doesn’t even own a pair of shoes now.
You can compromise slightly if you want to. You don’t have to go straight for stilettos. Try some heels with a platform sole as the ones you’ve pictured above will hurt after all your years in Docs.
Google rockabilly heels and I bet you’ll find some you love.

BreatheAndFocus · 09/04/2024 19:10

You can wear what you want, but I think you’re letting your insecurities affect your choices. I love DMs but they look crap with some outfits IMO. Why not try various styles of shoes? There are so many, and lots of them are far more indie than DMs.

Jackiebrambles · 09/04/2024 19:11

I love mumsnet for all the helpful ‘try these heels’ type posts. But fuck me what a bell end this guy is.

BobbyBiscuits · 09/04/2024 19:11

Heels are damaging to your feet. I have osteoperosis aged 42 and falling over or squeezing my bunion addled feet into heels throughout my teens could only have contributed. I honestly think life is too short for you to take sartorial advice from a man when it involves wearing something that's actively harmful. Tell him to get a penis enlargement and a vasectomy, two for one. Turkey's nice this time of year, seeing as he's so keen on 'treating' you?!

softslicedwhite · 09/04/2024 19:11

Jackiebrambles · 09/04/2024 19:11

I love mumsnet for all the helpful ‘try these heels’ type posts. But fuck me what a bell end this guy is.

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DetOliviaBenson · 09/04/2024 19:12

cocunut · 09/04/2024 18:58

More dressier choice!

i think these reach a compromise?

What are you doing OP? I'm sorry to say but you're being weak. Tell him to fuck off!

What's going to happen when you're 8 months pregnant, wearing maternity clothes and have no libido? Are you going to put on a pair of fuck me shoes, lie back and think of England?

How about when you're 2 weeks postpartum, still bleeding, breastfeeding and wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt all the time? Going to dig out the fuck me shoes again because he's complaining?

How about in 10 years, you've got - 3 kids under 10. Work full time, got to get the kids to school, activities, do homework, make packed lunches, feed the kids, put them to bed. You then going to make sure your makeup and hair is done for when he gets home from work?

Do you want to live the life of a controlled 50s housewife?

Send him a link to these. https://www.drmartens.com/uk/en_gb/1460-smooth-leather-lace-up-boots-cherry-red/p/11822600

softslicedwhite · 09/04/2024 19:13

anon2022anon · 09/04/2024 19:09

The thinner the heel, the more pressure they put on the ball of your foot and the more balancing you have to do.

If you really want to try heels, go for a chunky heel, and a platform at the front gives you more height without putting your foot at quite an angle. Esska are apparently very good.

Someone who hasn't seen the real issue at play here

Fannyfiggs · 09/04/2024 19:14

Threelionsandalioness · 09/04/2024 18:24

Absolutely brilliant !!! I think I love you 😆 🤣

Awwww shucks 🤭😁

CultOfRamen · 09/04/2024 19:15

cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:10

It’s hard because it’s not anything along the lines of “I hate your outfit” or anything abusive or controlling, it’s more that the shoes came up in conversation and he admitted that he hated them. We talked about what shoes he’d prefer me to wear and he did say he wants me to feel comfortable but he’d love it if I could wear some heels iyswim?

Making seemingly inoffensive comments that undermine your choices is abusive and controlling.

it’s the slow erosion of your confidence in your choices that inevitably lead to you being trapped in a relationship where you constantly feel your not quite good enough.

you need to do some significant work on yourself and you need to remove this person from your life.

InTheUpsideDownToday · 09/04/2024 19:15

My daughter often wears Leona DMs that have a heel (they are comfortable though) or a Jadan wedge.

Itsdeepitsblue · 09/04/2024 19:15

Hi op, you just need to find a compromise between what you’re comfortable with/your style and being more dressed up. Maybe a pair of boots like this to start? You could wear them with a short skirt but a baggy jumper like the model? So hopefully you won’t feel like you’re trying to hard but will also look dressed up? https://www.asos.com/dune-wide-fit/dune-london-wide-fit-pointed-toe-heeled-sock-boot-in-black/prd/203262531?currencyid=1&browsecountry=GB&affid=28280&_EAIaIQobChMI9-rx_N21hQMVs5lQBh0_NQXoEAQYHiABEgJFa_D_BwE&channelref=product+search&ppcadref=20546713158%7C%7C&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADqFjOBx_dhSfzlBZHdB9oNA939dS&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9-rx_N21hQMVs5lQBh0_NQXoEAQYHiABEgJFa_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

softslicedwhite · 09/04/2024 19:15

Itsdeepitsblue · 09/04/2024 19:15

Hi op, you just need to find a compromise between what you’re comfortable with/your style and being more dressed up. Maybe a pair of boots like this to start? You could wear them with a short skirt but a baggy jumper like the model? So hopefully you won’t feel like you’re trying to hard but will also look dressed up? https://www.asos.com/dune-wide-fit/dune-london-wide-fit-pointed-toe-heeled-sock-boot-in-black/prd/203262531?currencyid=1&browsecountry=GB&affid=28280&_EAIaIQobChMI9-rx_N21hQMVs5lQBh0_NQXoEAQYHiABEgJFa_D_BwE&channelref=product+search&ppcadref=20546713158%7C%7C&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADqFjOBx_dhSfzlBZHdB9oNA939dS&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9-rx_N21hQMVs5lQBh0_NQXoEAQYHiABEgJFa_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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