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Ostracised by group of friends - blaming the Childminder

137 replies

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 19:33

I met my friend ‘Janet’ at the GP surgery when our daughters were babies. Janet’s daughter a few months older.
I was new to the neighbourhood and Janet introduced me to a lot of mums.
I used to be invited to regular outings, coffee mornings, afternoon teas, picnics, birthdays, play dates, nights out without children etc etc

Fast forward Janet goes back to work full time and one of the mums becomes Janet’s (unregistered) childminder.
Nothing changes except I only meet Janet at the weekens / her days off. I still hang out with the group.

Fast forward the other day when some of us go to a trip to the museum by coach organised by the church.
The childminder is there with her own child and Janet’s daughter. All good.

Janet’s daughter is being potty trained. On the way back she needs to go to the toilet but no toilet in the coach. I was sitted on the other side of the corridor, paralel to the childminder. I offered a nappy she refused. All good. All the time she is comforting Janet’s daughter and encouraging her to hold.
The the girl asks for her pacifier. The childminder says no as the pacifier is only for sleeping time.

We get back to the church and the childminder takes the girl to the toilet immediatelly. Happy ending. Phew! No accidents.

Fast forward the following week and Janet is at mine for a playdate. We get talking about the trip to the museum and she comments what a great job the childminder is doing with the potty training. I agree. The Janet says that the childminder is so attuned to her daughter’s need that she even offered and gave the girl a pacifier to add some comfort and take the girl’s mind off the urge to wee.

I must have made a confused face, Janet asked me what was wrong.

I explained I was right there and told my version of the story. Janet said that it was weird as she is not very strict about the pacifier. Then she said she would ask her daughter what happened.

We changed the subject and playdate carried on as normal.

Fast forward a few days, I realised I was removed from the whatsapp group and the childminder and the majority of other mums removed me from their FB and IG.

My friendship with Janet remains the same but I am not ready to ask her or the few mums who didn’t ‘cancek’ me if they know / heard anything… or if Janet comfronted the childminder or heard her daughter’s side of the story (and how reliable can a toddler’s story be)?

Feeling lonely now but I will start working soon so I will have less time to meet anyway, but it is just sad that I’m now out of the group and god knows what is the gossip circulating about me.

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Picklesjar20 · 08/04/2024 20:32

Ugh why are people so petty. 🙄 i never understand how you can have hearsay and then judge people on a scenario you know nothing about and didn't even witness..

This happens a lot..always over such trivial rubbish. In your case a pacifier. Oh lordy.

Its annoying as often you can never defend yourself as its always behind peoples backs.

Hope you get somemore friends back at work that are worth it x

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 20:42

Thanks
I think the problem is that the childminder was caught lying and I was the one who outed her.
Wondering if I shouldn’t have told my friend tue truth - but I find it concerning someone lying about something so trivial

UGH my original post is full of typos and grammar errors 👾

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MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 20:45

Not really sure why you got yourself involved, tbh

ButterCrackers · 08/04/2024 20:46

You need friends who are happy to know you. These people sound like a group of sheep following their leader. You’ll meet new people and make new friends.

BananaSpanner · 08/04/2024 20:47

Why did you need to give a version of the story for such a trivial incident. It meant literally nothing. It’s obviously caused a bit of friction between Janet and childminder and everyone has shot the messenger. Very extreme reaction by them. Possibly more to it? Have you gossiped before?

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:01

BananaSpanner · 08/04/2024 20:47

Why did you need to give a version of the story for such a trivial incident. It meant literally nothing. It’s obviously caused a bit of friction between Janet and childminder and everyone has shot the messenger. Very extreme reaction by them. Possibly more to it? Have you gossiped before?

It was very unexpected - couldn’t control my face maybe when I heard my friend praising the childminder for something that she didn’t do. She asked, I told my version as I’m not good at lying.

No, I absolutely hate drama and gossip and I’m not getting involved anymore.

Glad I’m out of the group but surprised too since never had a problem with any of tjem before.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 08/04/2024 21:09

It all sounds like a fuss about not much, but I wouldn't have told Janet that her other friend lied to her. It was such a trivial thing, and I can see why she and her other friends thought you were being spiteful and making trouble. Also I can picture the face you were making, and I feel there was an element of "I know something you don't know...ask me! Make me tell you!" and enjoying tattling.

BusyCM · 08/04/2024 21:12

If a child only has a dummy for sleep then she may not have had it on her and.was gently distracting the child, offering it to her later when she could.

Regardless, nobody likes a gossip which unfortunately is how you came across.

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:14

TheYearOfSmallThings · 08/04/2024 21:09

It all sounds like a fuss about not much, but I wouldn't have told Janet that her other friend lied to her. It was such a trivial thing, and I can see why she and her other friends thought you were being spiteful and making trouble. Also I can picture the face you were making, and I feel there was an element of "I know something you don't know...ask me! Make me tell you!" and enjoying tattling.

Edited

oh yeah of course you do!
because you know me so well😹
please teach me to maintain a neutral poker face when someone tells you something they heard 2nd hand but you were there and know the reality was completely different, in fact the opposite and the cognitive dissonance is strong

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MyFirstLittlePony · 08/04/2024 21:14

You were silly to do the face and the "confession/ your side of the story" as there was no story

Bit harsh they blocked you though.

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:16

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:14

oh yeah of course you do!
because you know me so well😹
please teach me to maintain a neutral poker face when someone tells you something they heard 2nd hand but you were there and know the reality was completely different, in fact the opposite and the cognitive dissonance is strong

If it was something which didn’t concern me; quite easily.

Life is so much simpler when you stay in your own lane.

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:17

BusyCM · 08/04/2024 21:12

If a child only has a dummy for sleep then she may not have had it on her and.was gently distracting the child, offering it to her later when she could.

Regardless, nobody likes a gossip which unfortunately is how you came across.

the point is, the childminder told Janet that she offered the pacifier to comfort the child when in reality she didn’t offer and even denied

why make up stories?

but anyway, I guess Janet likes and trusts the CM so none of my business

however if I’m asked for facts, not sure I can collude with lies

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MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:17

Are you always so black and white?

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:18

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:16

If it was something which didn’t concern me; quite easily.

Life is so much simpler when you stay in your own lane.

Agree and lesson learned

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BusyCM · 08/04/2024 21:19

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:17

the point is, the childminder told Janet that she offered the pacifier to comfort the child when in reality she didn’t offer and even denied

why make up stories?

but anyway, I guess Janet likes and trusts the CM so none of my business

however if I’m asked for facts, not sure I can collude with lies

Contrary to your earlier statement, it seems you absolutely do like drama!

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:20

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:17

Are you always so black and white?

I’m always honest and I don’t lie
Is that what you mean?

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MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:21

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:20

I’m always honest and I don’t lie
Is that what you mean?

But you didn’t need to lie. You didn’t need to say anything at all.

Poppalina37 · 08/04/2024 21:23

You've had a lucky escape!

Grown ass women removing you off Facebook.... oh please!

2chocolateoranges · 08/04/2024 21:23

Op my face would have told the same story as you. So I would have done exactly what you had done.

you don’t need friends like them, however I’d definitely speak to your friend Janet.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 08/04/2024 21:27

I just want to know how other people remember details like this of other people’s lives. I mean even if I vaguely remembered this interaction I wouldn’t count on myself to be paying close enough attention to claim the other person was lying.

Hell I forgot more time than I care to admit the purpose I walked into a room for.

HalebiHabibti · 08/04/2024 21:29

I too am unable to make my face align with whatever the chosen narrative is OP. If someone says something that is a flat lie then my face will show it. I sometimes wish it didn't (I generally realise afterwards that my face has been Wrong) but there it is!

What a weird thing for them to fall out with you over.

nameshame24 · 08/04/2024 21:31

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 20:45

Not really sure why you got yourself involved, tbh

Tbf if I was in the same situation as OP I would have told my friend the truth. And as a parent I would hope that any of my friends in that situation would do the same.

nameshame24 · 08/04/2024 21:33

TheYearOfSmallThings · 08/04/2024 21:09

It all sounds like a fuss about not much, but I wouldn't have told Janet that her other friend lied to her. It was such a trivial thing, and I can see why she and her other friends thought you were being spiteful and making trouble. Also I can picture the face you were making, and I feel there was an element of "I know something you don't know...ask me! Make me tell you!" and enjoying tattling.

Edited
Hmm
TillyKister · 08/04/2024 21:37

I wouldn't be happy if a child minder lied about 'comforting' my child, if they hadn't.

Why the need to lie?

Surely it would have been better to tell the child's Mum the truth? If this unregistered child minder is lying about something so trivial, what else does she like about?

For what it's worth OP I think you're better off out of these groups. Breeding grounds for gossip and tittle tattle most of them.

SergeantDawkins · 08/04/2024 21:41

BananaSpanner · 08/04/2024 20:47

Why did you need to give a version of the story for such a trivial incident. It meant literally nothing. It’s obviously caused a bit of friction between Janet and childminder and everyone has shot the messenger. Very extreme reaction by them. Possibly more to it? Have you gossiped before?

To be fair it’s not gossip, it’s telling someone the truth about the way their child is being cared for. It would be a weird secret to keep.