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DH pressuring me to find a job

834 replies

Macadamiamama · 07/04/2024 09:30

Need some context otherwise I’ll definitely be unreasonable.
DH is a well paid lawyer in London, whatever that means nowadays.
I’m not from the UK, I went to uni and started working in my country but since moving here I only ever did a few jobs here and there and stopped since having babies.
I have been supported by my DH for about 9 years now and he’s probably had enough of that. I need to add: he works long hours, is often very stressed. He doesn’t have much time for the kids, he helps with bath when he’s home otherwise it’s only me. I understand.
Now our youngest is about to go to reception in September and my time is ticking as he wants me to start contributing financially. I don’t feel able to find a good job in the hours I have or skills. I worked from home last year and it was a disaster I had to quit as I had no time to do anything around the house and the kids.
We have no luxuries apart from not checking prices at the supermarket. We never go on holiday. We own a flat and would like to buy a house soon.
The idea of work is nice but I feel stressed as I think I already do so much, I also wouldn’t get much money so it’s not very appealing. I have my ambitions, just don’t feel it’s worth at the moment when we have no debt and live a reasonably comfortable life.
He won’t change anything in his life when I start double shifting (work+kids) apparently I’ll have so much free time I won’t know what to with myself!
He mentions jobs in retail, waitress, receptionist. No disrespect for people doing that but he’ll go out the house in his suit and tie and I’d be going out in a uniform.
I’m not saying he needs to support me forever but I don’t feel confident enough to get a job atm. He won’t pay for further education either as that’d be taking money from the kids. Am I being too superior?

OP posts:
cellfish · 07/04/2024 17:05

I’m still laughing at ”decent breakfast” and
”decent packed lunch”.

Canthave2manycats · 07/04/2024 17:08

NameChangeAgainAdvicePlease · 07/04/2024 16:04

"having a break from work whilst having children"

should read

"Working constantly to ensure the house, husband and children are looked after"

😂

Ihearyousingingdownthewire · 07/04/2024 17:08

I think you need to work, but he expects you to do any old shit, and do literally everything else as well. Which is bullshit.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/04/2024 17:09

cellfish · 07/04/2024 17:03

You have got to tell me you are kidding. Running a home? You mean running a flat in London. Or even if it was a house, I mean ffs…😂 This is not 1824.

All these excuses for not wanting to work are absolutely hilarious.

OP seems to be a bit princessy and doesn’t want to demean herself for working for less than she’s educated to, but has left the rat race so harder to get back into work and then wants a magic job so she can do drop off and pickup as doesn’t look like DH will do it (lawyers aren’t known for their work life balance), and also it looks like even if she did get her job she’s educated for she’d not be pleased with paying for childcare if she couldn’t do school runs. I don’t think her DH is unreasonable at all.

She really needs to speak to DH about him pulling his weight more around the house and with DC or outsourcing cleaning/childcare etc so she can work or even thinking about further education for her.

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 17:10

JFDIYOLO · 07/04/2024 17:05

Have you done a full breakdown of what your job of sahm actually entails, a timetable highlighting the hours, the responsibilities, the logistics - and had the conversation with him around how you will be equally sharing these tasks, once you're out at work earning?

And you may also need to pay for services such as cleaner, ironing, garden etc - has he factored that extra expense in?

Having said that, refinding some independence may be wise. Remembering how to earn, save, build a pension.

Regain self confidence as an individual other than wife & mum.

Because they'll be off before you know it, and building this up is sensible so it doesn't come as too much of a shock.

Sahm housewife isn’t a job. It’s tasks. And over describing tasks in minuatie doesn’t elevate it’s complexity or significance
By your logic anyone who works and is a parent therefore has two jobs the paid role and the home role as chef,cleansing operative and childcare

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 17:12

cellfish · 07/04/2024 17:05

I’m still laughing at ”decent breakfast” and
”decent packed lunch”.

Indeed. Obvious inference is the working slatterns have indecent lunch and breakfast

badhappenings · 07/04/2024 17:12

YANBU
How many DCs do you have?

He does sounds quite selfish not allowing you to retrain and he's probably clueless about what it really takes to run a household and look after young DCs.

Will he take 6 week's off in the summer holidays to look after your DCs or leave work at the drop of a hat to pick them up from school if they're poorly?

You need to enlighten him and talk this through. otherwise your current workload is going to double.

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 17:15

badhappenings · 07/04/2024 17:12

YANBU
How many DCs do you have?

He does sounds quite selfish not allowing you to retrain and he's probably clueless about what it really takes to run a household and look after young DCs.

Will he take 6 week's off in the summer holidays to look after your DCs or leave work at the drop of a hat to pick them up from school if they're poorly?

You need to enlighten him and talk this through. otherwise your current workload is going to double.

she doesn’t have a workload,she doesn’t work. She has the chores & parenting that everyone else manages without this much song & dance
She’s faffing about and looking for excuses not to work

rookiemere · 07/04/2024 17:18

badhappenings · 07/04/2024 17:12

YANBU
How many DCs do you have?

He does sounds quite selfish not allowing you to retrain and he's probably clueless about what it really takes to run a household and look after young DCs.

Will he take 6 week's off in the summer holidays to look after your DCs or leave work at the drop of a hat to pick them up from school if they're poorly?

You need to enlighten him and talk this through. otherwise your current workload is going to double.

Most working parents use holiday clubs, and unless DCs are prone to illness an emergency pick up would be rare. I think we had 2 in DS entire time at school and nursery.

Of course things are going to change a bit, but most families have two working DPs, it's not some shocking anomaly.

whatevss · 07/04/2024 17:18

You need to go back to work because he doesn't agree to you being a SAHM.

However, do your absolute best not to get a part-time dead-end job. He won't respect it, and you'll end up a drudge, doing everything and getting nowhere.

Get a full-time job with some prospect of progression. Tell him he'll need to do half of everything regarding the kids/house, including drop-offs and pickups.

If you have to do a second shift, so does he.

Anyotherdude · 07/04/2024 17:19

So he has “supported you for 9 years”? While you have been bringing up his children and looking after the housework (presumably, with laundry and cooking thrown in?) since he only helps YOU with the kids baths?
You need to sit him down, explain how looking after a house and kids is equal to the hours that he does at work, and, indeed, allows him to hold that job!
That being said, if you’re to find paid employment once your youngest goes to school and you are willing to do this, find out FIRST how much it will cost him to pay for a cleaner and childcare once you’re otherwise employed, and enlist his undoubtedly realistic help in getting you a job that will make you both better off, while paying for the domestic tasks that you’ll no longer be able to fulfil, due to having that paid job he so desires for you!

CrispieCake · 07/04/2024 17:20

rookiemere · 07/04/2024 17:18

Most working parents use holiday clubs, and unless DCs are prone to illness an emergency pick up would be rare. I think we had 2 in DS entire time at school and nursery.

Of course things are going to change a bit, but most families have two working DPs, it's not some shocking anomaly.

Unless they have two working parents and only one does any chores or childcare. Then it is pretty shocking (but sadly not an anomaly).

SouthLondonMum22 · 07/04/2024 17:22

penjil · 07/04/2024 16:36

If you are financially.comfortable enough, and it sounds as if you are, then why is you DH making you work?

Just for the sake of it?

What is wrong with being a SAHM/housewife if you can afford to do so?

You could always find a volunteer role to hone your skills or get some experience finding out what it is you want to do.

I don't know many men who would demand their wives work as a waitress, receptionist etc. just for the sake of it. If you are comfortable then you don't need to 'contribute financially'.

I think your DH is a bit jealous of you, and also doesn't understand how much time, energy and effort children and running a house is.

Maybe he doesn’t want all of the financial burden and responsibility any more?

Maybe he wants to lower his hours and spend more time with his children?

Maybe he feels adults should work once children are at school?

I don’t see anything wrong with that at all.

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 17:23

Anyotherdude · 07/04/2024 17:19

So he has “supported you for 9 years”? While you have been bringing up his children and looking after the housework (presumably, with laundry and cooking thrown in?) since he only helps YOU with the kids baths?
You need to sit him down, explain how looking after a house and kids is equal to the hours that he does at work, and, indeed, allows him to hold that job!
That being said, if you’re to find paid employment once your youngest goes to school and you are willing to do this, find out FIRST how much it will cost him to pay for a cleaner and childcare once you’re otherwise employed, and enlist his undoubtedly realistic help in getting you a job that will make you both better off, while paying for the domestic tasks that you’ll no longer be able to fulfil, due to having that paid job he so desires for you!

Yes, do sit down and berate the only working adult. Tell him his financial contributions is equal to her noncontribution. Disregard that he pays the food,accommodation and clothing. Ahh yes tell him he’d be nothing without her. She made him the man and lawyer he is, he owes it all to her.

Robinni · 07/04/2024 17:23

You don’t need to get a ‘good’ job.

You need to get ‘a’ job and work towards getting a good job.

You are being superior and it is unfair to not work.

Regards the house, you pay a cleaner to come, either once or twice a week or once for a longer session every two weeks. DH pays half.

Holidayshopping · 07/04/2024 17:25

What is wrong with being a SAHM/housewife if you can afford to do so?

You can’t be a housewife if the sole-earner doesn’t want to be the sole-earner any more.

TitaniasAss · 07/04/2024 17:25

What other plans do you have when your children are in school? It's not unreasonable for him to want you to contribute financially, but it's not unreasonable for you to want him to do more of his fair share with home/children either.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/04/2024 17:26

Saintmariesleuth · 07/04/2024 16:56

@Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain I agree that working in law doesn't necessarily equate to well paid- it was the OP who said he was 'well paid'. My interpretation of 'well paid' would be a nice lifestyle that stretches beyond being affording only the basics (I appreciate London house prices will require a lot of saving for a large deposit, but 'well paid' indicates you'd be able to enjoy a treat here or there whilst saving up)

I also agree with you that teacher training is unlikely to work for the OP right now, and is unlikely to be particularly family friendly hours wise- the teachers I know all put in extra time at home, even the part time one

He can’t be that well paid if he can only afford to buy a flat in London area. Depending on his fees and how he works he might be working for himself but he’s probably on £72,000 which is average for a London lawyer, which isn’t a huge amount if you’re covering 2 salaries like he’s doing.

I really wouldn’t recommend teaching, most I know have left or are only doing it because they have no choice. I certainly wouldn’t do it. My DM and her friends were primary teachers.

0sm0nthus · 07/04/2024 17:26

WimbyAce · 07/04/2024 16:16

I mean by all means get a job but be very clear that the expectation will be for his life to change too now. So he will need to be contributing to the childcare and day to day running of the house. See how he feels about that.

I agree with this.

Freetodowhatiwant · 07/04/2024 17:29

Can you do something working from home? I haven’t had a job in 20 years but have managed to support myself by selling travel as an independent agent and other things.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/04/2024 17:30

Anyotherdude · 07/04/2024 17:19

So he has “supported you for 9 years”? While you have been bringing up his children and looking after the housework (presumably, with laundry and cooking thrown in?) since he only helps YOU with the kids baths?
You need to sit him down, explain how looking after a house and kids is equal to the hours that he does at work, and, indeed, allows him to hold that job!
That being said, if you’re to find paid employment once your youngest goes to school and you are willing to do this, find out FIRST how much it will cost him to pay for a cleaner and childcare once you’re otherwise employed, and enlist his undoubtedly realistic help in getting you a job that will make you both better off, while paying for the domestic tasks that you’ll no longer be able to fulfil, due to having that paid job he so desires for you!

I think what’s happened is they had a discussion when DC were born about her being a SAHM/W to save on nursery fees and being good for the children and she’s agreed to this without thinking it through rationally, she doesn’t say if she’s had help with housework eg a cleaner but as a pp says a flat doesn’t require much cleaning.

Are DH’s parents in a position to help out with some childcare?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/04/2024 17:31

Freetodowhatiwant · 07/04/2024 17:29

Can you do something working from home? I haven’t had a job in 20 years but have managed to support myself by selling travel as an independent agent and other things.

She says she tried that last year but it was impossible, presumably because she didn’t have childcare in place or children in nursery/preschool.

DriftingDora · 07/04/2024 17:32

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 17:15

she doesn’t have a workload,she doesn’t work. She has the chores & parenting that everyone else manages without this much song & dance
She’s faffing about and looking for excuses not to work

And probably won't be back, because it's not going the way she'd like. But then if it takes 2 hours to make breakfast, then anything's possible...😂

StormingNorman · 07/04/2024 17:35

He’s not asking you to do anything millions of other mum’s don’t do. YABU because you feel entitled to live off his money when he’s telling you he’s not comfortable with that, and you want a bigger house. Maybe he feels that with the pressure of his job and the long hours, he’d like a few of the luxuries the family goes without so you can stay home.

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 17:36

selfish & entitled to want to be kept with zero financial contribution. Happy for him to be the work donkey whilst she consumes