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Brother is blackmailing me. wwyd?

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Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 13:24

My brother and I grew up in the 70s, this is relevant because he says our childhood is ‘normal’ and ‘fine’ and just like everyone else’s childhood at that time.

To be clear my father hit my mother, and was very violent from my earliest memory. He would lock me in the loft, or stand over me pummelling my body with his fists as a very young child. He would fly into a temper at the slightest provocation, and we all lived in total fear of him. The police and neighbours came to our house on more than a few occasions.

My father said repeatedly that he never wanted kids, and we didn’t have a relationship at all as we grew up. He hated spending any time with us. We spent most of our childhood trying to stay safe and avoid his violent outbursts.

I developed anorexia as a teenager due to his unkind comments about my body, and later tried to commit suicide because I found it hard to imagine continuing and I could see no way out. I recovered in time and grew into an healthy (ish) happy (ish) adult, and made a life for myself.

Fast forward to now I have had extensive and very helpful therapy for a few years, and after my father started to make my own children cry by humiliating them and calling them horrible names, I finally found the courage to cut contact with him.

My psychotherapist at the time said he is unwilling and unable to change and I must prioritise my dc. I understood I could not allow my dc to suffer in the same way I did. It hurt so much, but I took the decision to keep them safe from him.

My brother stopped talking to me around this time. He said I am being ‘cruel’ to my father by refusing to see him. That he is getting older and cutting him off is unforgivable of me. I am evil apparently.

I have now lost almost all of my family. My mother barely keeps in contact bar a daily text and I occasionally visit her alone or with dc. My brother continues to abuse me by email saying he ‘hates’ me and why can’t I just ‘put up with it’. My aunt now has family gatherings but doesn’t invite us.

I am being made to feel like the unreasonable person here, despite my therapists and my dh and all of my friends saying what happened to me is child abuse.

It’s been such a high price to pay to keep my children safe, and I feel broken by my brother’s relentless efforts to emotionally blackmail me into contact with my father (my abuser) or he will continue to ignore me as he has done for the last few years. My brother has given me an ultimatum- accept my father back into mine and my children’s life or be exiled by the whole family basically. I do not want any contact with father, my brother disregards this.

My mother has enabled all of this, but I see her as a victim of DV although he doesn’t hit her anymore - he is cruel in other ways, she has said she will never leave him. So she has made her choice, and it’s to stay with him.

What would you do?

OP posts:
Couldyounot · 03/04/2024 15:20

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

Another vote for this. So far as I can see with your brother, the apple hasn't even fallen off the tree.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/04/2024 15:21

I'm so sorry your family is like this.

I would cut your brother off, and anyone else who doesn't respect your decision to keep your children safe.

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 15:21

My father gets a kick from being criel. Luke target practice. I can’t believe my brother even takes his children there. My mum is sat shaking and jittering waiting for his next blow up. I feel sorry for my niece and nephew reliving my life.

OP posts:
KomodoOhno · 03/04/2024 15:21

Honestly op losing them isn't much of a loss. You have done absolutely the right thing, protecting yourself and your children.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/04/2024 15:23

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 15:21

My father gets a kick from being criel. Luke target practice. I can’t believe my brother even takes his children there. My mum is sat shaking and jittering waiting for his next blow up. I feel sorry for my niece and nephew reliving my life.

How old are your niece and nephew?

Poettree · 03/04/2024 15:23

Sadly I think you have to block your brother. Well it won't actually be sad because once you aren't living in dread of his messages appearing you'll be happier.

Right now, in the nicest possible way, you're enabling him. It doesn't do him any good to bully you. So really, blocking him is the kindest thing you can do to, as it may force him to grow up.

If people are abusive bullies, even if they are family, they have no right to expect access to you. I know it's tough and you will feel horrible but your own kids need you to be well and happy.

Hartley99 · 03/04/2024 15:24

Your children come first. I wouldn’t have anything to do with a scumbag like that even if I didn’t have children. This is a man who beat you and drove you to a suicide attempt. Most people wouldn’t have a man like that within 10 miles of their kids.

Popetthetreehugger · 03/04/2024 15:24

O my love , stay strong , block . Nothing your brother can say is worth putting your children in harms way . You and they are worth a happy life . Walk away and don’t look back 💐

Whatifthehokeycokey · 03/04/2024 15:25

How tragic. It's not uncommon in dysfunctional/abusive families for different siblings to have completely different memories of childhood. It's really sad.

You have done the work, as an adult. Your brother has not done the work. Often as the only adult to have done the therapeutic work, you leave the rest of the family behind, still trapped in the toxic cycle and you are cast as the problem.

Its really sad, but you can't control your brother or his decisions or behaviour. You can only control your own behaviour and the environment you make for your children.

angeldelightisyummy · 03/04/2024 15:26

I’m sorry to read this.

I suspect your brother was abused or at least affected by your ‘normal’ family life - but this is no excuse for his current behaviour.

He either comes round to your way of thinking or its NC with him.

Does your Aunt (maternal or paternal?) know what went on way back? Or is she trying to sweep the DV under the carpet like your brother?

Perhaps keep on the daily texts with your Mum - she too is a victim and wasn’t strong enough/able/blind to help you in the past. Even if you only talk about the weather.

Is your Dad putting pressure on your brother, has he got him under his thumb?

If the shit continues to fly off the fan - walk. All the best

Allofaflutter · 03/04/2024 15:27

Your whole family are in denial because they knew what was going on and let it happen and are responsible for allowing it to continue. They could have stopped it but they didn’t so now they can’t admit it happened or they would have to admit to themselves that they enabled the abuse. So they won’t and it’s easier to blame you.

MissUnicorn · 03/04/2024 15:28

The choice isn't talk to your father or be exiled from the family.
The choice is continue to be taken advantage of and have your children humiliated and crying or spend time cultivating relationships with your friends and have your children in positive uplifting environments.

Not a hard choice is it?

Block your brother. He's just like your dad.
Be well OP

Allofaflutter · 03/04/2024 15:28

I also would call SS and let them know that your niece and nephew are being exposed to abuse too. Otherwise they will get the same abuse.

coastalhawk · 03/04/2024 15:30

Very difficult situation, my sympathies.

BoohooWoohoo · 03/04/2024 15:31

Block them all.

I am in a similar situation and protected my kids from my violent mother. They’ve never met her and I’m very proud that the cycle of abuse ended with me because I went NC. I carried the pain so my kids could be unaware of what that feels like and it feels great.

Churchview · 03/04/2024 15:32

Nobody should have to go through what you suffered as a child.
You have been incredibly strong and brave to get to the place where you are now.
Protect yourself and your children from suffering again.

Your brother's behaviour is absolutely wrong.

You are absolutely right.
Move on and take comfort and hope from your own family.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 03/04/2024 15:33

I'm so sorry you had such a rough upbringing OP.
Please, for your sake and the sake of your children move away from your parents and brother both physically and emotionally. They offer you nothing except pain and I don't really understand why you've continued to have a relationship with them x

vitahelp · 03/04/2024 15:34

I would personally take the hit of losing touch with that entire side of the family in order to keep my children and myself/DH safe. I have also cut contact with my dangerous father 15 years ago but am an only child and wasn't particularly close with my Dad's side of the family so didn't really lose anything in the process, so I realise you are in a more difficult situation than I was.

oakleaffy · 03/04/2024 15:34

@Polishedshoesalways I that fear as a child- It has long standing effects.

Just stick to what you think is right.

Abusers rarely take responsibility for their abuse, or own it and profoundly apologise to their child .

Keep strong.

They are trying to bully you.

Don’t give in unless they admit what your father did was wrong.

He must KNOW he was a bully and a brute to you
🌼

Phoebefail · 03/04/2024 15:35

As @lemongrizzled said on page 1, maintaining contact is making it more difficult for you. You should move away physically, put distance between you.
Your bro is merely following in Father's Footsteps. As he gets older and more set in his ways he will get worse.
You cannot solve the problems of the world. You can safeguard yourself and your DC.
"Do what we can where we can. Do it well. We can do no more".

CactusMactus · 03/04/2024 15:36

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

This.
And tell your brother if he contacts you again you are reporting him to the police for stalking and harassment.

Mulhollandmagoo · 03/04/2024 15:38

You need to block your brother, you spent your whole childhood being abused by your father, you absolutely do not have to put up with it from your brother too! Plus blocking him will really annoy him as he will have lost the upper hand.

Block him and live a free and peaceful life 💐

WallaceinAnderland · 03/04/2024 15:38

My brother has given me an ultimatum- accept my father back into mine and my children’s life or be exiled by the whole family basically.

Choose to be exiled by the whole family.

You can't fix them but you can heal yourself.

tattygrl · 03/04/2024 15:39

Well done OP. You are incredibly strong, even though it's not fair that you've had to be so strong for so long. Right from childhood. You've done an incredible thing in breaking the cycle of abuse. I hope you never underestimate or forget what mighty strength, resilience and fortitude you have inside you. You've saved yourself and your children. Never, ever forget that.

You know that to re-introduce your family, particularly your father, into your life would bring with it all that you've escaped. It is absolutely heartbreaking and unfair that you are faced with the choice to have that abuse in your life or lose your family, but remember, that choice isn't your fault. You didn't make your father abuse you and your family. You didn't make your brother defend him. You didn't make your mother stay with your father. It is them forcing this decision, not you. I believe that your instinct for survival and to thrive is strong, and that you'll walk away from them. You know nothing good lies there.

MILTOBE · 03/04/2024 15:40

I would definitely keep up contact with my mum in that situation. The thing is that your dad deliberately chose a weak woman who he could manipulate and hurt without repercussions. Of course it's appalling that she didn't stand up for you, but maybe she wasn't in a fit state to do that. It's hard for us to think of anyone being so low that they can't stand up for their children, but you say even now she's shaking in the presence of your dad and he isn't hitting her at this point.

Hopefully your mum will live longer than your dad. Would you think of looking around your local area for a suitable place for her to live after he dies? (I'm not sure how old he is and all this is wishful thinking on my part!) I would hate to think of her living near your brother and being forced into parting with all her money and being bullied to death by him.

If she's a few hours away from your brother I doubt he'd see her often. You'd be able to keep an eye on her but wouldn't have to be living in the same house as her.

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