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Brother is blackmailing me. wwyd?

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Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 13:24

My brother and I grew up in the 70s, this is relevant because he says our childhood is ‘normal’ and ‘fine’ and just like everyone else’s childhood at that time.

To be clear my father hit my mother, and was very violent from my earliest memory. He would lock me in the loft, or stand over me pummelling my body with his fists as a very young child. He would fly into a temper at the slightest provocation, and we all lived in total fear of him. The police and neighbours came to our house on more than a few occasions.

My father said repeatedly that he never wanted kids, and we didn’t have a relationship at all as we grew up. He hated spending any time with us. We spent most of our childhood trying to stay safe and avoid his violent outbursts.

I developed anorexia as a teenager due to his unkind comments about my body, and later tried to commit suicide because I found it hard to imagine continuing and I could see no way out. I recovered in time and grew into an healthy (ish) happy (ish) adult, and made a life for myself.

Fast forward to now I have had extensive and very helpful therapy for a few years, and after my father started to make my own children cry by humiliating them and calling them horrible names, I finally found the courage to cut contact with him.

My psychotherapist at the time said he is unwilling and unable to change and I must prioritise my dc. I understood I could not allow my dc to suffer in the same way I did. It hurt so much, but I took the decision to keep them safe from him.

My brother stopped talking to me around this time. He said I am being ‘cruel’ to my father by refusing to see him. That he is getting older and cutting him off is unforgivable of me. I am evil apparently.

I have now lost almost all of my family. My mother barely keeps in contact bar a daily text and I occasionally visit her alone or with dc. My brother continues to abuse me by email saying he ‘hates’ me and why can’t I just ‘put up with it’. My aunt now has family gatherings but doesn’t invite us.

I am being made to feel like the unreasonable person here, despite my therapists and my dh and all of my friends saying what happened to me is child abuse.

It’s been such a high price to pay to keep my children safe, and I feel broken by my brother’s relentless efforts to emotionally blackmail me into contact with my father (my abuser) or he will continue to ignore me as he has done for the last few years. My brother has given me an ultimatum- accept my father back into mine and my children’s life or be exiled by the whole family basically. I do not want any contact with father, my brother disregards this.

My mother has enabled all of this, but I see her as a victim of DV although he doesn’t hit her anymore - he is cruel in other ways, she has said she will never leave him. So she has made her choice, and it’s to stay with him.

What would you do?

OP posts:
Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 14:05

I have really kind friends and a network of really decent people around me and my little family. I don’t speak about this in real life, as I am so embarrassed and ashamed. Thank you for your help with this.

My brother is in denial. He knows exactly what my father put my mother through -even ignoring what he did to me/us.

OP posts:
DrNo007 · 03/04/2024 14:06

There is so much good advice on this thread and I agree with it—go no contact with all except maybe your mother if that is safe for you and her. However I wanted to add an anecdote from my own life that might be of help.

When I was a small kid I had a ‘friend’ whom I loved but who abused me psychologically. For many years after we went our separate ways I pined after her and yearned to re-establish contact. Then one day I woke up with the realisation that no one should be abused, ever, by another. And why would I want to go back for more abuse? Maybe to rewrite history with a happy outcome but that is just fantasy.

That was the day I learned to rejoice in my ‘loss’ of this person from my life instead of grieving it. I hope one day you will feel the same way about leaving your abusers to stew in their own rotten juices.

user1471556818 · 03/04/2024 14:06

I grew up then as well and saw to a lesser extent what your describing. It does affect you and how to behave, what you accept and expect from both your family and others .You can't change the past but my god you have and can change your future and your daughters .
Listen to your therapist dh and friends, it's not normal
Stop giving your brother power over you and your dd .Block and walk away
Your dm see keep in touch with if nothing is discussed about rest of your family.
Focus on your family and friends and what you have achieved. You are breaking the vicious circle you had no control over .
You can't control their behaviour but you can't control your response and reaction to it all .
I really wish you all the very best

Whataboutwhat · 03/04/2024 14:07

YANBU. I had a similar father but escaped the abuse as I was the youngest and my parents split when I was still quite young. My family are also toxic, I have no contact with any of them except one sibling who emails me once a year. I totally understand the orphan comment, I feel exactly the same. Honestly, though, the best thing for you and your children is to cut contact completely, you’ll only get drawn back in otherwise and it’s so bad for your mental health. Look after yourself op and just concentrate on your own life with your children. I am sure you’ll be so much happier.

Beautiful3 · 03/04/2024 14:08

I would have done the exact same as you, cut him off. You have to prioritise your children, end the cruel cycle of abuse. Don't go back, just because you feel sad they don't include you anymore. You have your own family now, your sibling/mother and aunt don't matter at all.

DrNo007 · 03/04/2024 14:09

I should add that a current friend of mine was also abused by her father and has been shamed and attacked by other family members who are in denial regarding what he did. It seems to be a common syndrome. Please do what she did and go no contact with all those who are perpetuating the abuse.

Capmagturk · 03/04/2024 14:12

Continue to protect the welfare of yourself and your children. I'm so sorry you went through all that growing up it obviously was not okay and honestly you're better off cutting contact with everyone who supports and minimises what he has done by continuing to treat you badly and in your shoes I'd of already cut contact with and blocked your brother. His way to deal with it all may be minimising and pretending it wasn't as bad as it was but that doesn't work for you and doesn't excuse him blackmailing you.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 03/04/2024 14:12

Block them all- victims become perpetrators a lot of the too. You’ve survived - your brother and mother haven’t. They are adults but continue to abuse you as your father does. Don’t put your kids in this position or you may find they see it as you didn’t keep them safe. Blood is not thicker than water. Be free.

Teapotsgalore · 03/04/2024 14:14

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 13:30

I feel strangely like an orphan. I have a whole living family that I never see. It’s been so hard to cut contact, unbelievably painful. My brother has made this even harder.

It must be really really hard. Îm so sorry you are being punished on top of the terrible childhood you had. Remember that you do have family though with your children and DH.

KingscoteStaff · 03/04/2024 14:17

@Polishedshoesalways Has your parents' health started to deteriorate recently? A friend had exactly this experience when her brother clocked that he was going to end up solely responsible for their care...

UncomfortablyBig882 · 03/04/2024 14:17

You poor thing. You really should be so proud of yourself, you have been so strong to overcome your childhood and create your own family.

You are not an orphan. You have made a beautiful family of your own! And you must protect not just them, but also yourself for their sake. Block your brother on all platforms. Cut yourself away from that horrible family.

Abuse is very deep and people don't change and many are unable to call it out because it is inconvenient. My own grandfather was incredibly violent, beat my grandma and my mum and her siblings horribly. He beat my grandma in front of me as a child too. I will never forget being 13 years old, at his funeral, completely confused as to why everyone was crying. I was so ANGRY when an auntie said about me: "poor thing, she must be too shocked" because she didn't understand why I walked away lol. Full grown adults around me grieving and sobbing over a man that inflicted nothing but misery. My grandma spent her last 10 years in a bed because his last few beatings paralysed her. I don't get it and never will.

Don't hold out hope that your family will come around. They won't.

Dontbeme · 03/04/2024 14:18

Well done on being the one to break the cycle of generational trauma OP.

I am a cynical old boot and would hazard a guess that your brother is seeing that your aging parents will need care and support in the very near future and has decided that you are it. That's why he wants you to just continue to accept abuse, it's gets him off the hook. I say block them all and continue to have a peaceful life.

WhichPage · 03/04/2024 14:19

So now they all bully you rather than ‘just’ your father.

I recognise and have experienced this type of exile and feel greatly for you.

cutting contact has huge costs as you know but I would recommend that you compartmentalise your own little family and adjust all your expectations to match your new safer boundaries as the better of the two options

in my case the original bully died in his 70’s and then healing and reconciliations took place with wider family- though we haven’t really addressed the original damage which is still too hot to handle

i do have empathy for the original bully in my story and love and understanding but he was never able to improve his behaviour to a comfortable safe level which may well have had roots in his own early traumas.he missed out on so much as a result and fought everything all his life.

with kindness you are helping your father not damage his grandchildren

BMW6 · 03/04/2024 14:20

OP your db may not be in denial, but instead relishing his role as a bully just like Dad.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is as bad with his wife and dc as your Dad was with you. It's very often the case.

Your Mum has enabled the violence all your life. I'm sorry for her, but she's made her choice and it's the wrong one.

Keep your dc and yourself safe away from the whole lot of them, please.

canyouletthedogoutplease · 03/04/2024 14:23

They have made and continue to make their choices, and you can now make the choices you couldn't as a child. Keep going, you're on the right path.

Block your brother's contact, he doesn't deserve your ear and certainly not your guilt. He adds nothing to your life or that of your children, and you will never be able to get him to see your side, no matter how much energy you spend trying.

Your mum is the trickiest one, but as much as she is a victim, as are you and your brother, you are all adults and responsible for your own choices. Yours need to work for you, and your new family, not abusers and their facilitators.

Richandstrange · 03/04/2024 14:25

I went NC with my entire family fairly recently and identify completely with the 'orphaned' feeling you mention OP, it's a surreal feeling, a bit like living in an alternate universe! I'm getting used to it though, and the relief and freedom I feel is starting to outweigh the feeling of loss.

My situation is sort of similar in that my family have closed ranks around my abuser and ostracised me for being the only one brave enough to speak the truth. Tbh I haven't given anyone the opportunity to be a flying monkey (blocked them all in one go) but I know my brother would behave exactly as yours is. He knew about the abuse at the time, we spoke about it several times but I know he would now deny it ever happened, purely because that's easier for him.

He's a coward and I am not, it's really that simple and the same is true in your situation. Us refusing to 'keep the peace' shows them up for the pathetic cowards they are and that's why they're so invested in wanting us to play along with the false narrative. I knew immediately how the rest of my family would react to me speaking the truth and I knew there would be no chance of any kind of mutually respectful relationship with any of them once I had said it, they simply can't face the truth and I refuse to not speak it to save their feelings, I did that for far too long.

What I'm trying to say is that your brother is making it impossible for you and he to have any kind of healthy relationship going forward and it will only bring you more pain and trauma to keep trying. That's entirely his fault and his doing, which I know doesn't make it any easier but at least means you don't need to carry any guilt for going NC. It's very true that you can't control other people's actions, only your own reactions and the only way you can react to this kind of pressure/emotional blackmail is to walk away for your own protection. I'm 3 months into NC now and (with the help of some therapy!) doing ok, feel free to PM if you have any questions you think I could answer. You might also find the 'Stately Homes' threads on the Relationships board helpful, they're for people with toxic families like ours and a huge source of support and information, I think the most recent one is titled 'March 2024 But we took you to stately homes.'

PotatoPudding · 03/04/2024 14:25

I have two siblings and we all had different childhoods. I have little to do with my mum, as she simply didn’t treat me nicely like she did my older brother and younger sister. I also developed an eating disorder, but this was due to her constant criticism and nastiness towards other women’s looks. She’s still like that at 81 years old.

I am not justifying your brother’s behaviour; far from it. He just doesn’t see it through your eyes. However, I absolutely think it is better for you and your children to not have contact with your brother or your father. Both are toxic.

Your children absolutely do come first, as does your mental health.

Good luck!

BloodyAdultDC · 03/04/2024 14:26

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

First post has it

This was not by any stretch a normal childhood. Your father was a cunt and now your entire family are gaslighting you into enabling him to have contact with you and your dc?

Block your brother.

Build a new 'family' around you op. Folk who will love and treasure you all, and cherish your dc. You can't choose your family but you can choose friends.

You literally have nothing to lose. They don't love you if they are threatening such things.

TotalDramarama24 · 03/04/2024 14:27

I would block the whole lot of them immediately and never speak to any of them again. Just pretend in your head that they are all dead.

It's difficult at first but stay strong and determined and after a few months and then years go by you will feel absolute peace and never give them a second thought.

I went NC with family members for reasons that were nowhere near as bad as you have suffered. It was the best thing I ever did for myself.

It's actually harder for you having this limited contact and allowing abuse to filter through from your brother who is basically your father's flying monkey. It's forcing you to think about it and always have it in the back of your mind. If you block them all you are freeing yourself from them.

DinosaursAreMyLife · 03/04/2024 14:27

OP you are one courageous person. Absolutely hats off to you!
Your family are either in denial or have abusive tendencies themselves. You are absolutely better off without all of them.

PLEASE leave them to it. Cut them all off. Block them. Live your life and be proud that you have broken the cycle of abuse!

Soubriquet · 03/04/2024 14:28

I would protect my children. That is it.

LouOver · 03/04/2024 14:28

Op reading his emails is a choice your making. You know he won't change. Send him a response that you no longer wish to hear from him then block and start healing.

You can't change people, you can only change how you react to them.

SKG231 · 03/04/2024 14:30

If I were you I would pity your brother. He is obviously in huge denial, hasn’t dealt with his own childhood and is definitely not happy in his life deep down.

he is probably angry at you because he can see how much you’ve worked on yourself and that you have managed to break away from the abuse and he hasn’t.

do what is best for you and your children and never see your dad again. Let your brother know the door is open to him in the future if he manages to see the damage that has been done and wants the two of you to have a healthy relationship separate from it all.

NonPlayerCharacter · 03/04/2024 14:36

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

Can recommend.

Concannon88 · 03/04/2024 14:38

@Polishedshoesalways cut them off without a penny. They all sound toxic and enablers. Better off without them. Its difficult when you'll fell like you've lost your family, but your children are your family now. Good luck and heal x

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