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Brother is blackmailing me. wwyd?

376 replies

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 13:24

My brother and I grew up in the 70s, this is relevant because he says our childhood is ‘normal’ and ‘fine’ and just like everyone else’s childhood at that time.

To be clear my father hit my mother, and was very violent from my earliest memory. He would lock me in the loft, or stand over me pummelling my body with his fists as a very young child. He would fly into a temper at the slightest provocation, and we all lived in total fear of him. The police and neighbours came to our house on more than a few occasions.

My father said repeatedly that he never wanted kids, and we didn’t have a relationship at all as we grew up. He hated spending any time with us. We spent most of our childhood trying to stay safe and avoid his violent outbursts.

I developed anorexia as a teenager due to his unkind comments about my body, and later tried to commit suicide because I found it hard to imagine continuing and I could see no way out. I recovered in time and grew into an healthy (ish) happy (ish) adult, and made a life for myself.

Fast forward to now I have had extensive and very helpful therapy for a few years, and after my father started to make my own children cry by humiliating them and calling them horrible names, I finally found the courage to cut contact with him.

My psychotherapist at the time said he is unwilling and unable to change and I must prioritise my dc. I understood I could not allow my dc to suffer in the same way I did. It hurt so much, but I took the decision to keep them safe from him.

My brother stopped talking to me around this time. He said I am being ‘cruel’ to my father by refusing to see him. That he is getting older and cutting him off is unforgivable of me. I am evil apparently.

I have now lost almost all of my family. My mother barely keeps in contact bar a daily text and I occasionally visit her alone or with dc. My brother continues to abuse me by email saying he ‘hates’ me and why can’t I just ‘put up with it’. My aunt now has family gatherings but doesn’t invite us.

I am being made to feel like the unreasonable person here, despite my therapists and my dh and all of my friends saying what happened to me is child abuse.

It’s been such a high price to pay to keep my children safe, and I feel broken by my brother’s relentless efforts to emotionally blackmail me into contact with my father (my abuser) or he will continue to ignore me as he has done for the last few years. My brother has given me an ultimatum- accept my father back into mine and my children’s life or be exiled by the whole family basically. I do not want any contact with father, my brother disregards this.

My mother has enabled all of this, but I see her as a victim of DV although he doesn’t hit her anymore - he is cruel in other ways, she has said she will never leave him. So she has made her choice, and it’s to stay with him.

What would you do?

OP posts:
Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 14:41

BMW6 · 03/04/2024 14:20

OP your db may not be in denial, but instead relishing his role as a bully just like Dad.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is as bad with his wife and dc as your Dad was with you. It's very often the case.

Your Mum has enabled the violence all your life. I'm sorry for her, but she's made her choice and it's the wrong one.

Keep your dc and yourself safe away from the whole lot of them, please.

Yes. I think that might be the case. My brother is unbelievably aggressive and nasty in all of his messages, they are very domineering stating I will not be invited to my own mother’s funeral when she dies. It is the cruelty he is now inflicting on me that hurts, because it is totally unnecessary.

Many of you are spot on, my father has been really ill lately with an operation that went wrong. My mum is becoming very disabled by poor health. I live nearly 4 hours away.
DB seemed angry that things are being ‘left to him’ with my father and his hospital appointments, even though my mother says he never helps and they have to get taxis. Maybe that is the issue.

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NonPlayerCharacter · 03/04/2024 14:42

Well maybe he can just enjoy being the sole heir when the inheritance comes. I can't imagine he'll object then.

Your father has chosen his legacy and you don't have to sacrifice yourself or your kids for it.

something2say · 03/04/2024 14:45

I agree with everyone here - you are not the problem - your father and brother are. You are doing the right thing. Your father would only harm your children. You had no real choice but to do what you have done.

You feel like an orphan because you are really.

Have a look at "Purple Dragon Mother: Healing from Child Abuse" as there is an excellent section in there about managing contact with abusive families.

Hankunamatata · 03/04/2024 14:46

I'd keep contact with your mum as long as she isn't trying to pull you back in. Daily texts are fine and her visiting on her own.

cheeseyum · 03/04/2024 14:46

Blocking them and walking away is the only solution for your and your dc mental peace. There is no silver bullet to change their behaviour. There is nothing you can do to change their behaviour.
Imagine a good friend was in your shoes, what would you tell her to do?
Whilst it's heartbreaking to feel you have no family around you, some families aren't worth having. Build your own from those around you who love and care for you. You will be grateful you did.

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 14:50

I think my brother hopes he can keep all of the inheritance by feeding the division, but he doesn’t want to do any of the work or caring. I have been the only one to ‘care’ and organise help for my parents in the past. He has his eyes on the inheritance and I feel this makes it easier for him to behave as he does.

It’s blood money to me. It mostly belongs to grandparents I was very close to, and my grandmothers would be turning in their graves watching this happen to me.

OP posts:
Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 14:52

He has a gambling problem his wife doesn’t know about, my dm has bailed him out with thousands over the years.

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TealPoet · 03/04/2024 14:54

The more you say in your posts the more clear it is that neither you nor your DC should be anywhere near your brother or your father. Keep the contact with your mum if you can/want to, but focus on building and protecting your own family. Your brother is being unreasonable, not you!

tiggergoesbounce · 03/04/2024 14:54

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

Exactly this.
I always think with children it is definitely quality over quantity with regards to the people you allow around them.

I would choose one person who was a positive influence, who encouraged and nurtured our DS over 10 people who don't.
A child needs love and encouragement.

You are doing the right thing by ensuring your abusive Father gets nowhere near your kids, you are breaking the cycle which is exactly what's needed, so great job.
Next its block your brother, you just don't need people like that in your life.

And keep your mum to a txt relationship that suits you. If it's doesn't, block her. You don't owe these people anything- you only owe your own kids something - which is protection.

PhamieGowsSong · 03/04/2024 14:54

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

This ☝

Again the first response nails it.

I went NC with my whole family OP (10 years ago), it was an awful thing to go through, and deeply heart-breaking. I had to cut contact with everyone, because just like your brother they would have interfered and wanted me to make up with my parents. So I didn't give them the chance.

The relief in not having to deal with them and their crazy and inflicting it on my children is the price worth paying. We are the castle walls!

You and your children deserve so much more than what they can give. Don't destroy your and your children's peace and safety for anything. Your brother does not love you, because people who love others do not allow them to walk back into abuse, which is what he is blackmailing you to do.

I am so sorry OP - big unmumsnetty hugs 💐

Ponderingwindow · 03/04/2024 14:58

I had a similar childhood. It wasn’t just the 70s. Monsters are monsters and they exist in every generation. The difference now is that women have more legal and economic power so it’s easier to stand up for themselves and their children. Our mothers were in a very tough position.

you need to focus on your children. Raise them in a healthy environment free from the damage of any type of abuse, physical, emotional, or financial. Break the cycle.

GingerIsBest · 03/04/2024 14:59

Everyone responds different to childhood abuse, and everyone's abuse is different, even within the same family. Your brother's reactions and responses are the result of how the abuse has affected him.

However, that doesn't mean you have to take it. You have chosen to break the cycle and that is the important thing.

Take a good, long, hard look at your extended family. Are there any members you genuinely want to maintain a relationship with becuase they add value to your life? If there are, it may be worth reaching out to those ones directly to see if you can maintain a private/separate relationship. But be warned it might not be possible.

As for the rest, including your brother, NC is the way forward. Note however that yes, this may impact any inheritance you would be due.

Allofaflutter · 03/04/2024 15:01

Well done op for protecting your children. Take the power away from your brother and tell him his presence in your life is worth nothing to you and it’s funny to you that he thinks he can blackmail you into contact with your child abuser father but threatening to not speak to you. Tell him thanks for the trash taking the trash out and then block him. Block them all. Then live in peace. Huge hugs to you.

Notreat · 03/04/2024 15:01

Sadly the best thing for you and your children is to block your brother and cut of contact with your family. Keep in contact with your mother if you want to but if that's not possible or you don't want to then don't. She is not your responsibility.
You need to prioritise yours and your children welfare.

LakieLady · 03/04/2024 15:02

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

This, absolutely.

Don't expose yourself to this manipulation.

I'm so sorry you went through all this, OP. Some people simply shouldn't have children, or partners.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 03/04/2024 15:03

Keep all the communications, but don't respond other than to tell your brother to stop contacting you and that any further contact will be reported to the police as harassment. Use text or email so that there is an evidential trail.

Reeceseggaddict · 03/04/2024 15:04

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 14:50

I think my brother hopes he can keep all of the inheritance by feeding the division, but he doesn’t want to do any of the work or caring. I have been the only one to ‘care’ and organise help for my parents in the past. He has his eyes on the inheritance and I feel this makes it easier for him to behave as he does.

It’s blood money to me. It mostly belongs to grandparents I was very close to, and my grandmothers would be turning in their graves watching this happen to me.

Your brother has sadly inherited his dads ways… please continue with the therapy and tell your brother you want no future contact from him and any future contact will be reported to the police and they are lucky you aren’t going to the police about the abuse you faced as a child. Keep in therapy though. You’ll need the support

destroyess · 03/04/2024 15:05

Send him the laughing emoji and block him.

5YearsLeft · 03/04/2024 15:07

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 14:05

I have really kind friends and a network of really decent people around me and my little family. I don’t speak about this in real life, as I am so embarrassed and ashamed. Thank you for your help with this.

My brother is in denial. He knows exactly what my father put my mother through -even ignoring what he did to me/us.

Edited

OP, please don’t let the shame your family has tried to force on you cut you off from the real-life support that you deserve.

As always, the best exercise is to imagine if it were your best friend. Would you think that she should feel ashamed or embarrassed of being seriously abused, and still having an abusive family that is trying to affect her? No, of course you wouldn’t. There is nothing shameful or embarrassing about it. And I guarantee none of your friends willl think so, if they are the kind of people you’ve chosen as friends.

Give your friends the opportunity to show you why you love them - because they are polar opposite of your family, I imagine; because they’d never find it shameful to be an abuse victim; etc. Mumsnet can help you take that first step, but having your friends understand what you’ve been through would be invaluable.

Also… please know you’re not mad. Being gaslit like a fucking Victorian parlour by your own family is bound to make you feel like you’re going crazy. But that’s how it works - they are so invested in convincing you that your way of viewing your own memories is wrong, that they don’t consider how ridiculous they’re being. They’re not even trying to tell you that the abuse didn’t happen; as you say, they tell you it’s “in the past” or “dad is dad.” In no way do stock phrases like those excuse major abuse.

NancyPickford · 03/04/2024 15:14

I don't know why you would want to be around any of them, or want any of them in your life.
You say you have a circle of good friends, you have your own family, why on earth would you put up with this abuse from your brother and the rest any longer. You are now a grown-up, you can shut them all out of your life and enjoy the rest of it, living without fear of his texts or outbursts.
Block him, walk away, and don't look back.

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 15:16

Thank you for your support. Honestly it’s been invaluable, I have found it so strengthening and it has made me feel centred again. I know I have done the right thing for my children. I know it’s not normal to be so awful to children.

My mother after fifty years plus being married to the monster is now a shadow of her former self barely able to string a sentence together and suffering from poor mental health, her nerves shot to pieces walking on egg shells 247. It’s so sad 😭 I don’t know how my brother can live with looking at her. Broken, completely broken.

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GreatGateauxsby · 03/04/2024 15:18

Yep. First post nails it.

lots of good advice… I predicted the brother being an arsehole himself (you calling out your dads shithouse behaviour indirectly holds a mirror up to his own crappy behaviour) and that your parents were starting to need care and he is looking for a compliant woman to carry the load so he is absolved of it.

i would flag that your brother can’t actually do this
accept my father back into mine and my children’s life or be exiled by the whole family basically.
you can have independent relationships with your aunt mother etc. I’m not saying you should… just that you could…

part of the reason your wider family are “uncomfortable” and distancing themselves is because tou are verbalising truths they’d rather pretend didn’t exist because it’s unpleasant and because you aren’t sticking to the script (naughty @Polishedshoesalways!)

the script is the family narrative and family roles anything from martyr mummy, dutiful daughter or the fuck up son who is still the favourite etc.
When people get therapy and recognise this dysfunction… they start to break out of these roles and change the script and no one likes that! It causes a lot of upset…

Yousound like you are doing great.
sod the inheritance and get as far away from them as you can.
your mother is worth a conversation with a good therapist. She’s a victim maybe but also an enabler….

romdowa · 03/04/2024 15:18

I've been in a similar situation except with a narc mother. My brother threatened to beat me if I didn't take my child to my mother's filthy moldy house. I blocked him and continued to protect my child because for me it's a small price to pay to keep my child safe, he's important, they aren't.

1983Louise · 03/04/2024 15:19

It's not your fault you know, the one person who should have protected you caused you great harm both physical and emotionally. You've come so far in creating a safe, happy home for your children, husband and yourself. Please never go back to these dreadful people, block them and move forward with your family. I wish you well and you deserve so much by putting your children first x

craigth162 · 03/04/2024 15:20

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

This. 100%