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Botox, frozen faces and big lips

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Yourhappinessisourhapinessvom · 28/03/2024 22:34

Will this trend ever end, does anyone think?
I don’t judge anyone getting surgery etc, heaven knows I need help with my lines…but the same as everyone else look is pretty weird.
Have just seen some videos from the 80’s & 90’s and just the variation in the way actors etc looked is incredible, so natural and beautiful

Also hoping all this ends by the time my Dd is a teen. I was a teen in the 90’s, yes we wore make up and cared how we looked, but nothing like these days

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FootballFriend · 07/04/2024 08:32

I don’t know what you think happens after you discontinue Botox and the fillers. Or have you bought into the fantasy that it keeps ageing and wrinkles at bay forever? Or plan to keep at it, whilst the skin on the neck, cleavage, hands, bum continues its ageing process? What will you do about the brown age spots? The little red age spots?

EvenStillIWantTo · 07/04/2024 08:34

DancingFerret · 06/04/2024 23:59

My SDIL suffers from PCOS and consequently battles with her weight and facial hair. Unfortunately, she's also a younger dead ringer for Pam Ferris in her role as Miss Trunchbull, wearing her hair in exactly the same style. Recently, she's dyed her hair a shade of maroon and had Botox treatment on her lips, which accentuates the hair on her upper lip and looks awful. She's a lovely person, though, and I'd never make any comment to her about her appearance, but I do wonder - just why?

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/news/a44434/miss-trunchbull-now/

Maybe it just makes her feel a little better?

KimberleyClark · 07/04/2024 08:56

Notmyuser · 07/04/2024 01:53

What would these lovely tong women think of your grandmother with her saggy tits and wrinkled face?

Why is it okay to judge someone for looking young but not looking old?

Point well missed. No one is judging them for looking young per se but for messing around with their faces.

MsLuxLisbon · 07/04/2024 09:13

Notmyuser · 07/04/2024 01:53

What would these lovely tong women think of your grandmother with her saggy tits and wrinkled face?

Why is it okay to judge someone for looking young but not looking old?

I've seen the sort of women that @LampShadeTaj means. Trust me, 'lovely' is not the first adjective that comes to mind when describing their appearance.

EvenStillIWantTo · 07/04/2024 09:40

FootballFriend · 07/04/2024 08:32

I don’t know what you think happens after you discontinue Botox and the fillers. Or have you bought into the fantasy that it keeps ageing and wrinkles at bay forever? Or plan to keep at it, whilst the skin on the neck, cleavage, hands, bum continues its ageing process? What will you do about the brown age spots? The little red age spots?

Same could be said for dying your hair. Do you think women who dye their greys are somehow incapable of imagining that one day they'll stop - when they feel ready - and transition to grey??

AntonFeckoff · 07/04/2024 09:41

The glass skin look is interesting to me as it’s how my face looked five minutes after washing it for years thanks to very oily skin. I used to have severe acne which I had two rounds of roaccutaine for, but even after the acne cleared up my skin remains quite oily. I used to go to great lengths not to have that look, including mattifying cream and masses of powder. I could never touch anything dewy or luminous, although as I get older I can see matte makeup doesn’t sit so well.

MsLuxLisbon · 07/04/2024 09:48

AntonFeckoff · 07/04/2024 09:41

The glass skin look is interesting to me as it’s how my face looked five minutes after washing it for years thanks to very oily skin. I used to have severe acne which I had two rounds of roaccutaine for, but even after the acne cleared up my skin remains quite oily. I used to go to great lengths not to have that look, including mattifying cream and masses of powder. I could never touch anything dewy or luminous, although as I get older I can see matte makeup doesn’t sit so well.

I think that it looks awful in almost all cases. It doesn't really look like glass, more like oil as you say.

AntonFeckoff · 07/04/2024 09:55

I’m trying to get my skin to the point where I feel confident going out without makeup. I don’t wear a lot, usually just a thin covering of a light foundation and some under eye concealer, plus a dusting of bronzer. I don’t bother with mascara very often as it feels uncomfortable.

I don’t really know why I don’t feel confident without it and it annoys me. I think it’s partly that I spent years carefully trying to cover up all my spots with foundation and concealer and it’s a difficult habit to break. I also have very deep set eyes so have always had dark circles and as I age the skin is area is looking quite hollow. If I’m being really honest, I worry people will look at me and think I look ugly/tired/haggard.

But then I think well who cares. When I go out I don’t really look at people’s faces unless they speak to me, and even then I don’t take anything in. So why bother. It’s nice to put effort in if I’m going out for an evening or for a special occasion but otherwise it all feels a bit pointless.

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 07/04/2024 12:04

I went out last night (rare occurrence) and I noticed a lot of younger women looked far more natural. Not so many with big fake lips, fake eyelashes, thick make up etc.
Also a lot of younger women embracing their look and wearing whatever they liked, regardless of their size.
Having said that I only had a natural brown eyeshadow on, mascara plus lipstick. No other make up and no Botox or fake anything.

MsLuxLisbon · 07/04/2024 12:09

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 07/04/2024 12:04

I went out last night (rare occurrence) and I noticed a lot of younger women looked far more natural. Not so many with big fake lips, fake eyelashes, thick make up etc.
Also a lot of younger women embracing their look and wearing whatever they liked, regardless of their size.
Having said that I only had a natural brown eyeshadow on, mascara plus lipstick. No other make up and no Botox or fake anything.

I have noticed a real swing back to natural beauty, and it is nice to see. The TOWIE/Kardashian/Love Island look is going out of style except among a certain demographic, I think. It used to be that only really chavvy girls got themselves up like that, then it became more mainstream, but I think it's changing back again.

EvenStillIWantTo · 07/04/2024 12:47

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 07/04/2024 12:04

I went out last night (rare occurrence) and I noticed a lot of younger women looked far more natural. Not so many with big fake lips, fake eyelashes, thick make up etc.
Also a lot of younger women embracing their look and wearing whatever they liked, regardless of their size.
Having said that I only had a natural brown eyeshadow on, mascara plus lipstick. No other make up and no Botox or fake anything.

I do absolutely LOVE that the younger generation were what they want, and don't seem to do what we did in the 90s - dress to shrink ourselves and take up as little space as we possibly could. I really admire the no fucks attitude of it all.

LavenderPup · 07/04/2024 16:28

I haven’t noticed the back to natural trend much locally yet but I’m not out that much. I did see a some goths? and that was fab, at least they looked different. Been a while since I’ve seen any youngsters looking like individuals!

Btrsun10 · 08/04/2024 16:20

Notmyuser · 05/04/2024 17:52

glass skin is in now, so even people who don’t have Botox are going for this look.

I always use oils because I like the glossy look, but tbh it wears off really quickly after the Botox anyway! As in, within a week or so the shine goes. Annoying.

No, the botox look is not glossy. It is unfortunately, greasy.

EvenStillIWantTo · 08/04/2024 16:25

How could Botox make you greasy 🤨

AntonFeckoff · 08/04/2024 16:41

I think it’s because it make the skin so smooth it becomes reflective. I’ve noticed it on people who’ve had it, gives the skin a plasticky look.

MsLuxLisbon · 08/04/2024 16:54

AntonFeckoff · 08/04/2024 16:41

I think it’s because it make the skin so smooth it becomes reflective. I’ve noticed it on people who’ve had it, gives the skin a plasticky look.

It does, it looks very weird and shiny.

Mimilamore · 08/04/2024 17:01

I see it everywhere in the place I live. Orange faces or conker brown, fur eyelashes, natural pouts and lumpy hair extensions. This is mainly on beautiful young girls but some are older women with frozen faces too.
I saw a young girl who looked like a burns victim in Tesco... she was almost black in areas.
I really have nothing against somebody having some quality enhancing procedures if they feel it will enhance their lives but these examples just look so badly done and manky looking. This is usual coupled with really fat or out grown gel nails, again done badly, how does the baby get a nappy change with those poo scoops. This is an area of social deprivation and I do think the money could be better spent as none of the girls in question seem remotely happy or confident...

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 09/04/2024 07:24

There is a women who goes to the same gym as me.
I wondered why her forehead looked like she had smeared it with chip fat. Seriously that is the only way I can describe it and this was before she had worked out. It’s obviously Botox. Looks bizarre . Makes her forehead look very stretched.
It’s not a good look it’s not a fresh natural shine just a greasy look.

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