Botox, frozen faces and big lips

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Will this trend ever end, does anyone think?
I don’t judge anyone getting surgery etc, heaven knows I need help with my lines…but the same as everyone else look is pretty weird.
Have just seen some videos from the 80’s & 90’s and just the variation in the way actors etc looked is incredible, so natural and beautiful

Also hoping all this ends by the time my Dd is a teen. I was a teen in the 90’s, yes we wore make up and cared how we looked, but nothing like these days

I am lol. No different to parents laughing at me and my pals in the 80s, 90s when we thought we looked the business. We have a sense of humour unlike some.

They all look like clones

Leslie Ash was on TV this morning, and they showed some of her film work in Quadrophenia and also Men behaving badly, she was so naturally pretty and to see her this morning She really did not look good, looks like she’s overdone the Botox as well as the lips.

I saw a clip of the first ever episode of Hollyoaks recently, it was a huge contrast to the show that is on TV nowadays. The girls all looked so natural, no fake anything. They looked lovely. It's actually very sad to jump forward (30 years!!) to see how much has changed. They look ridiculous now.

I agree. I’m seeing more and more girls/ladies (even quite old ladies) with ridiculously plumped up lips when they looked much better before. Plus all the super white perfect teeth look stupid and it’s terrible for young people to ruin their teeth as they’ll have to keep having work done on them for the rest of their lives.

Years ago when I modeled my lips were considered an asset.

By today's standards I wonder if agencies would tell me I need filler. My lips aren't thin, but they aren't super plump.

Plastic surgery goes in trends. We have data to support this.

I wish women knew how beautiful they really are.

I think so much of the looking 'wrong' is that it's features you don't naturally have, stuck on your face.

I have got decent lips, but a bigger, pillow like bottom lip. I'd look properly weird if I made my top lip match.
Wearing mascara makes my eyes look bigger. Wearing thick false eyelashes doesn't. They make me look like I'm wearing false eyelashes.
I think Debbie Harry was absolutely stunning when she was in her 30s. If I were to stick her features on my face, I'd look very odd.

I agree, OP. It’s beyond me why so many young women have lips that look like they are having some kind of painful allergic reaction. Recently was on a train opposite a woman ( early 40s?) who had had so many fillers etc she looked borderline ‘Bride of Wildenstein’. I struggled to tear my eyes away. It was like looking at a car crash. So Sad that she didn’t feel happy about her own face.

There's a whole sub-group of serious Botox fans who don't go for the daffy duck look and they look amazing. The only way I know is because they tell. My SIL is someone like this. She's been having Botox for around a decade, if you met her or saw a picture you'd never know. You could maybe detect if you spent a long time looking at pictures of her in her late 20s Vs late 30s.

Obviously can't post a bunch of pics of people I know but there's a youtuber called Tamara's timeless beauty - for an idea of Botox done well - done in the way it was intended to be done. She has a video my 16year Botox journey.

If I was brave enough I'd probably do it but I worry I'd be the person who would have a reaction and my face got stuck 🤣

Laughing at people’s appearances isn’t having a ‘sense of humour’. It’s having insecurities so you feel the need to belittle and make-fun of others.

Bless you though. Fortunately I never experienced my parents laugh at me when I was young. Unlike some.

Yes it's very unattractive.. along with those huge false eyelashes, they look so heavy on the eyes.

What is wrong with a few lines? Grow old gracefully i say!

How did you get the idea to have lip fillers, Botox and false eyelashes? Did it come to you in a dream?!

That's so weird. I watched this show too and all I could think was how slim most people were then. It's shocking how much weight people in general have put on in the past 20 years.

I wonder if that's another reason extreme beauty trends have taken off. Losing weight is hard. Maintaining weight takes effort. Paying for treatments is easy.

It's not just young women who are having aesthetic treatments. Both women and men have subtle treatments well into their ‘70s.

This is big business for respected practitioners.
I imagine this fashion for obvious ‘work’ won't last too long and the gentle approach will prevail.

I agree with you. It's a particular unnatural look that makes people look the same. There's a lovely fresh faced beauty that women have around 18-25 that sadly gets ruined by lip fillers etc imo but it's up to them! It will hopefully be a very dated look, very soon.

What are you on about? But do you look better than you were young? Your sentence Makes no sense and then you’re saying you’re not asking for competition when you’re clearly comparing a younger version with an older version. Life is about different stages, each having its own merits. And then you’re referencing a man’s verdict on a woman’s attractiveness as if this was a defining thing in every woman’s life.

I was very attractive, if that’s something you place importance on, into my early fifties. I’ve found a real freedom in growing older and moving past a reliance on looks.

it’s women who are being diminished by believing that they are only worthy if they are physically conforming to porn star beauty standards.

Gosh yes the turkey teeth….. paying to ruin your natural teeth just sounds bonkers. The filed down original teeth remnants look scary. It must be excruciatingly painful too :(

“I was very attractive” 🤢who says that

Presumably people who know they were very attractive. It's okay to acknowledge that. What's the point of pretending?

I used to work near a plastic surgery and so saw a lot of the same 'look'. Of course some people get subtler enhancements but other people go for a particular look (the very big lips, big boobs). I dont think many people look better after than they did before (in terms of the heavy surgery look).

Someone who was attractive?

I am an ex model and actress. I was considered beautiful. I still am I think, however I don't look like I did in my twenties. I'm in my 40's. None of us look 25.

My step mom was always gorgeous. She is now in her late 60's and she's still a knockout. She has an incredible unique almost legendary sense of style and the warmest most vivacious personality. That woman can work a room. Everyone loves her. Her age is irrelevant. Her humour and compassion are magnetic.

No one cares she isn't 20 or even 40. She just oozes confidence and charisma. She makes everyone feel seen and heard and her looks are the last thing you think about after meeting her, but you will remember how she made you feel.

Looks fade for all of us and if we are lucky enough to age, hopefully ageing is seen as the gift it truly is.

I've lost too many incredible friends who were in their 30s and 40s to begrudge the time I've been given.

A once stunning family member now looks like Janice from the muppets.

I don't know anyone in real life who looks like this. It's only a trend with chavs.

Would be interested to read more - could you send a link please? I have always suspected Botox can’t be good long term but would be good to see what the science is saying